NE-YO v THE DREAM

note the similarities between ditch that http://youtube.com/watch?v=Vnrgdzq9xQM and david banners fuck em http://youtube.com/watch?v=uOYbFADoINE

The first Ne-Yo album is better than The-Dream's album by an order of magnitude.

Ne-Yo won because a better singer, a better songwriter, and less imminently punchable.

The first Ne-Yo album is better than The-Dream's album by an order of magnitude.

-- The Reverend, Friday, 2 May 2008 01:25 (49 minutes ago) Link

dan perry jr

rong + says 'order of magnitude'

Whatever, dude. There's probably at least 5 Ne-Yo songs and at least 5 more that Ne-Yo's written that I've liked more than anything Dream's touched.

Also, half of Dream's output it total horseshit and he's never written or sang anything I'd go so far as to say I loved.

I have The Reverend's back all the way, even the saying order of magnitude thing.

you know what guys

we will not tolerate this hate speech on our property

After listening to this record and Because of You back to back tonight (the latter probably for the last time), I don't know what Ne-Yo and The-Dream have in common other than they're red-hot commercially and have done interesting things with Rihanna. The-Dream's made a better album, sure, but so what? The lineage is different: he's part of the Maze-Rick James-Prince-Roger-Troutman school, while Ne-Yo's got Luther, MJ's "Human Nature," and Alexander O'Neal in the brain.

Dude, compare LoveHate to the good Ne-Yo album. Also, what they have in common is pretty damn obvious.

Ne-Yo hasn't made a good album yet.

bullshit

-- rev, Thursday, May 1, 2008 12:50 PM (Thursday, May 1, 2008 12:50 PM) Bookmark Link

speaking as the ilx user who created this poll what they have in common is theyre both rnb songwriters who became crazy popular solo artists right now - also the writerly sophistication

hey guyz, both ne-yo and the-dream great.

ne-yo just has boring production for the most part and his songs can be very formulaic/samey. And Prince, R Kelly& Timbo influence >>>>>>> MJ influence.

also, they're both on def jam

also both kind of ugly and bad dancers, which makes their transitions from behind-the-scenes to stardom all the more impressive.

also, they have hyphens

even if the formula has become a bit predictable by now and he's kind of got a Barry Manilow blandness to him, I think Ne-Yo has really some really strong melodies and lyrics -- "When You're Mad," "Irreplaceable," "Get Down Like That," those are A+ compositions.

lol i forgot dream-hyphen

i still like "so sick" almost as much as anything on the dream album

I never really liked "So Sick." "Sexy Love" and "When You're Mad" are the best singles from the first record.. and Because Of You is actually really good .. title track, "Make It Work," "Do You," "Crazy"...

and "addicted," love that one very Prince

but not in annoying way like "sex with my ex"

even if the formula has become a bit predictable by now and he's kind of got a Barry Manilow blandness to him, I think Ne-Yo has really some really strong melodies and lyrics -- "When You're Mad," "Irreplaceable," "Get Down Like That," those are A+ compositions.

-- Alex in Baltimore, Thursday, May 1, 2008 8:44 PM (Thursday, May 1, 2008 8:44 PM) Bookmark Link

this is otm, although I'd pick different standouts

except for the part mid-sentence where I completely lost track and said "really" twice.

and I'll take Ne-Yo's predictabilities over Dream's intentional formulas xp

oh, I just completely read past typos

I think Ne-Yo has really some really

i read this and immediately the "a milli" beat started playing in my head except it was "some really some really some really some really some really some really some really some really some really some really some really some really some really"

lolololol

is brainwasher going to be giving us some "lol white people like r&b" pseudo-forks shit here or something

-- J0rdan S., Thursday, May 1, 2008 12:11 PM (3 weeks ago) Bookmark Link

No, that's deej re "critics," and it frankly is sort of pissing me off.

But hey, if he's an expert at reading a strawman's mind . . .

i was being pretty even handed in this thread

BIIIIIIIIITCH

just saw too $hort live XD

I just don't see any evidence for what you were claiming. A lot of us listen to a lot of stuff.

meh, I see what deej is talking about all the time... like last year w cassie's "is it you."

out of all the songs they picked that one and hyped it up

I missed it. I don't listen to much radio, and I don't get many promos anymore. Last year I liked the R. Kelly, Ne-Yo, Rihanna, Blige and Ghostface albums, among other things.

"last year, i listened to a lot of albums i heard because of other critics"

meh, I see what deej is talking about all the time... like last year w cassie's "is it you."

???

I think you might be overestimating the hype on that track...I really only saw four or five people openly adoring it, and that's including myself, the lex and you (i thought??). And we've all enjoyed Cassie's other stuff, too, so it's not as if we suddenly started liking Cassie because of that one song.

Also, that being said, "Me & U," "Is It You?" and "Official Girl" are all unbelievably stellar, single-of-the-year material.

PURPLE KISSES

this thread is about people who make good music so take your cassie talk to other threads please

;-)

the other day i heard the awz backing vocals that are in the second or third chorus

neo, never herd him. the dream caused lyfe-change 4 me

Yes, yes, carry on with your Paula DeAnda talk

tape store, u talkin abt may????????

me, i just listen to my nat king cole album