Ne-Yo won because a better singer, a better songwriter, and less imminently punchable.
― The Reverend, Friday, 2 May 2008 01:27 (sixteen years ago) link
The first Ne-Yo album is better than The-Dream's album by an order of magnitude.
-- The Reverend, Friday, 2 May 2008 01:25 (49 minutes ago) Link
dan perry jr
― deej, Friday, 2 May 2008 02:15 (sixteen years ago) link
rong + says 'order of magnitude'
Whatever, dude. There's probably at least 5 Ne-Yo songs and at least 5 more that Ne-Yo's written that I've liked more than anything Dream's touched.
― The Reverend, Friday, 2 May 2008 02:23 (sixteen years ago) link
Also, half of Dream's output it total horseshit and he's never written or sang anything I'd go so far as to say I loved.
― The Reverend, Friday, 2 May 2008 02:24 (sixteen years ago) link
I have The Reverend's back all the way, even the saying order of magnitude thing.
― Alex in Baltimore, Friday, 2 May 2008 03:01 (sixteen years ago) link
you know what guys
― J0rdan S., Friday, 2 May 2008 03:03 (sixteen years ago) link
we will not tolerate this hate speech on our property
After listening to this record and Because of You back to back tonight (the latter probably for the last time), I don't know what Ne-Yo and The-Dream have in common other than they're red-hot commercially and have done interesting things with Rihanna. The-Dream's made a better album, sure, but so what? The lineage is different: he's part of the Maze-Rick James-Prince-Roger-Troutman school, while Ne-Yo's got Luther, MJ's "Human Nature," and Alexander O'Neal in the brain.
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 2 May 2008 03:06 (sixteen years ago) link
Dude, compare LoveHate to the good Ne-Yo album. Also, what they have in common is pretty damn obvious.
― The Reverend, Friday, 2 May 2008 03:30 (sixteen years ago) link
Ne-Yo hasn't made a good album yet.
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 2 May 2008 03:32 (sixteen years ago) link
bullshit
-- rev, Thursday, May 1, 2008 12:50 PM (Thursday, May 1, 2008 12:50 PM) Bookmark Link
― The Reverend, Friday, 2 May 2008 03:35 (sixteen years ago) link
speaking as the ilx user who created this poll what they have in common is theyre both rnb songwriters who became crazy popular solo artists right now - also the writerly sophistication
― jhøshea, Friday, 2 May 2008 03:39 (sixteen years ago) link
hey guyz, both ne-yo and the-dream great.
ne-yo just has boring production for the most part and his songs can be very formulaic/samey. And Prince, R Kelly& Timbo influence >>>>>>> MJ influence.
― The Brainwasher, Friday, 2 May 2008 03:39 (sixteen years ago) link
also, they're both on def jam
also both kind of ugly and bad dancers, which makes their transitions from behind-the-scenes to stardom all the more impressive.
― Alex in Baltimore, Friday, 2 May 2008 03:40 (sixteen years ago) link
also, they have hyphens
― The Reverend, Friday, 2 May 2008 03:42 (sixteen years ago) link
even if the formula has become a bit predictable by now and he's kind of got a Barry Manilow blandness to him, I think Ne-Yo has really some really strong melodies and lyrics -- "When You're Mad," "Irreplaceable," "Get Down Like That," those are A+ compositions.
― Alex in Baltimore, Friday, 2 May 2008 03:44 (sixteen years ago) link
lol i forgot dream-hyphen
― jhøshea, Friday, 2 May 2008 03:45 (sixteen years ago) link
i still like "so sick" almost as much as anything on the dream album
― J0rdan S., Friday, 2 May 2008 03:45 (sixteen years ago) link
I never really liked "So Sick." "Sexy Love" and "When You're Mad" are the best singles from the first record.. and Because Of You is actually really good .. title track, "Make It Work," "Do You," "Crazy"...
― The Brainwasher, Friday, 2 May 2008 03:49 (sixteen years ago) link
and "addicted," love that one very Prince
― The Brainwasher, Friday, 2 May 2008 03:50 (sixteen years ago) link
but not in annoying way like "sex with my ex"
-- Alex in Baltimore, Thursday, May 1, 2008 8:44 PM (Thursday, May 1, 2008 8:44 PM) Bookmark Link
this is otm, although I'd pick different standouts
― The Reverend, Friday, 2 May 2008 04:01 (sixteen years ago) link
except for the part mid-sentence where I completely lost track and said "really" twice.
― Alex in Baltimore, Friday, 2 May 2008 04:02 (sixteen years ago) link
and I'll take Ne-Yo's predictabilities over Dream's intentional formulas xp
― The Reverend, Friday, 2 May 2008 04:04 (sixteen years ago) link
oh, I just completely read past typos
― The Reverend, Friday, 2 May 2008 04:05 (sixteen years ago) link
I think Ne-Yo has really some really
i read this and immediately the "a milli" beat started playing in my head except it was "some really some really some really some really some really some really some really some really some really some really some really some really some really"
― J0rdan S., Friday, 2 May 2008 04:06 (sixteen years ago) link
lolololol
― deej, Friday, 2 May 2008 05:57 (sixteen years ago) link
is brainwasher going to be giving us some "lol white people like r&b" pseudo-forks shit here or something
-- J0rdan S., Thursday, May 1, 2008 12:11 PM (3 weeks ago) Bookmark Link
No, that's deej re "critics," and it frankly is sort of pissing me off.
― If Timi Yuro would be still alive, most other singers could shut up, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 05:58 (sixteen years ago) link
But hey, if he's an expert at reading a strawman's mind . . .
― If Timi Yuro would be still alive, most other singers could shut up, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 06:04 (sixteen years ago) link
i was being pretty even handed in this thread
BIIIIIIIIITCH
― deej, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 07:58 (sixteen years ago) link
just saw too $hort live XD
― deej, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 07:59 (sixteen years ago) link
I just don't see any evidence for what you were claiming. A lot of us listen to a lot of stuff.
― If Timi Yuro would be still alive, most other singers could shut up, Wednesday, 28 May 2008 09:16 (sixteen years ago) link
meh, I see what deej is talking about all the time... like last year w cassie's "is it you."
― The Brainwasher, Thursday, 29 May 2008 20:18 (sixteen years ago) link
out of all the songs they picked that one and hyped it up
― The Brainwasher, Thursday, 29 May 2008 20:19 (sixteen years ago) link
I missed it. I don't listen to much radio, and I don't get many promos anymore. Last year I liked the R. Kelly, Ne-Yo, Rihanna, Blige and Ghostface albums, among other things.
― If Timi Yuro would be still alive, most other singers could shut up, Thursday, 29 May 2008 22:36 (sixteen years ago) link
"last year, i listened to a lot of albums i heard because of other critics"
― deej, Thursday, 29 May 2008 22:37 (sixteen years ago) link
???
I think you might be overestimating the hype on that track...I really only saw four or five people openly adoring it, and that's including myself, the lex and you (i thought??). And we've all enjoyed Cassie's other stuff, too, so it's not as if we suddenly started liking Cassie because of that one song.
― Tape Store, Thursday, 29 May 2008 22:53 (sixteen years ago) link
Also, that being said, "Me & U," "Is It You?" and "Official Girl" are all unbelievably stellar, single-of-the-year material.
― Tape Store, Thursday, 29 May 2008 22:54 (sixteen years ago) link
PURPLE KISSES
― J0rdan S., Monday, 9 June 2008 05:33 (sixteen years ago) link
this thread is about people who make good music so take your cassie talk to other threads please
;-)
the other day i heard the awz backing vocals that are in the second or third chorus
― J0rdan S., Monday, 9 June 2008 05:35 (sixteen years ago) link
neo, never herd him. the dream caused lyfe-change 4 me
― usic, Monday, 9 June 2008 05:39 (sixteen years ago) link
Yes, yes, carry on with your Paula DeAnda talk
― Tape Store, Monday, 9 June 2008 05:41 (sixteen years ago) link
tape store, u talkin abt may????????
― usic, Monday, 9 June 2008 05:43 (sixteen years ago) link
me, i just listen to my nat king cole album
"game unforgettable"
― usic, Monday, 9 June 2008 05:44 (sixteen years ago) link
isn't it kind weird how "I Luv Your Girl" is a big hit now, like 9 months after the album was released....
― chinchillas they can fit on gorillas, Tuesday, 10 June 2008 14:31 (sixteen years ago) link