Uk or Us: which country gave the biggest contribution to contemporary music?

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I'd avoid the main question, but address the idea that jazz, blues etc. had to go through the UK to become proper pop. It's got a lot of truth to it, but mainly in the period from the Stones to Led Zeppelin. This kind of "authentic" southern Blues and R&B wasn't as popular in the states, but I'd just point out that pretty much all the songs that the Beatles covered had been big hits. Chuck Berry, Little Richard, Fats Domino etc. were doing fine here (not financially perhaps), although British collectors did keep them alive through some lean years. Since the early 70s anyway, R&B has done fine without going through that filter, and in fact a lot of the black music that's popular here never really sells well there. And jazz never has been proper pop, since the 40s, when the UK didn't figure at all. The thing about the charts is true, I had a book of UK charts, and the differences were fascinating, but I think a lot of this has to do with the smaller scale. I do regret that we don't get the little flash in the pan groups (OK, Shampoo and Daphne & Celeste were both on film soundtracks, but got no airplay and less press), I guess our equivalent would be the annual summer booty anthem; Whoop there it is, Daisy Duks, Tha Dip, Back that Azz up, Who Let the Dogs Out (booty soca, that's some kind of twist anyway).

Pound for pound the UK's contributions are incredible, but the US is an 8,000 ton gorilla. I think our indy bands are largely influenced by UK acts but at the chart level it's at an all time low. Europe, particularly Germany, has now entered the mix in a way that it really never has before (sure, Kraftwerk, Italian disco, Laura Branigan), so things might get slightly more interesting.

Betty Cooper-American!, Thursday, 1 February 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link

one year passes...
The worst of the two. I hate contemporary music.

Anna Rose, Friday, 24 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

four years pass...
It looks like Scotland's jolly good at delivering undergound sounds that influence underground scene elsewhere whilst delivering overground turgid slop like Del Amitri, Deacon Blue, Danny Wilson, etc., to keep the Scottish media happy, and keep the pressure of the underground

You forgot Runrig.

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Friday, 20 October 2006 19:35 (seventeen years ago) link

UK wins. Now lock thread.

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Friday, 20 October 2006 20:15 (seventeen years ago) link

You don't like contemporary music from the USA then geir?

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Friday, 20 October 2006 20:21 (seventeen years ago) link

In a perfect world, the answer would be New Zealand. Stupid xenophobic music press. >:(

GLC (ZakAce), Saturday, 21 October 2006 20:37 (seventeen years ago) link

The UK have been responsible for some stunning refinements and innovations, but the US created the framework of popular music.

Which country is responsible for the third biggest contribution, I wonder?

chap who would dare to welcome our new stingray masters (chap), Saturday, 21 October 2006 20:43 (seventeen years ago) link

Taking into account more than just the 20th century and beyond, the winner is probably either Germany, Italy or maybe Greece.

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Saturday, 21 October 2006 21:03 (seventeen years ago) link

Best thread ever.

James Herbert Dip (noodle vague), Saturday, 21 October 2006 21:11 (seventeen years ago) link

Which country gave the most interesting contribution to ILM?

1. Every other country in the world
210. England
211. USA
212. Norway

Sadly, he will be the next Alexis Petridish. (Dom Passantino), Saturday, 21 October 2006 21:13 (seventeen years ago) link

the winner is probably either Germany, Italy or maybe Greece.

Yeah, I'll agree with Germany, if only for Scooter and Rammstein.

chap who would dare to welcome our new stingray masters (chap), Saturday, 21 October 2006 21:35 (seventeen years ago) link

Germany can keep Scooter.

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Sunday, 22 October 2006 13:55 (seventeen years ago) link

It's talent vs. taste, innit?

Dr. Alicia D. Titsovich (sexyDancer), Sunday, 22 October 2006 14:12 (seventeen years ago) link


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