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I'd avoid the main question, but address the idea that jazz, blues
etc. had to go through the UK to become proper pop. It's got a lot of
truth to it, but mainly in the period from the Stones to Led Zeppelin.
This kind of "authentic" southern Blues and R&B wasn't as popular in
the states, but I'd just point out that pretty much all the songs that
the Beatles covered had been big hits. Chuck Berry, Little Richard,
Fats Domino etc. were doing fine here (not financially perhaps),
although British collectors did keep them alive through some lean
years. Since the early 70s anyway, R&B has done fine without going
through that filter, and in fact a lot of the black music that's
popular here never really sells well there. And jazz never has been
proper pop, since the 40s, when the UK didn't figure at all. The thing
about the charts is true, I had a book of UK charts, and the
differences were fascinating, but I think a lot of this has to do with
the smaller scale. I do regret that we don't get the little flash in
the pan groups (OK, Shampoo and Daphne & Celeste were both on film
soundtracks, but got no airplay and less press), I guess our
equivalent would be the annual summer booty anthem; Whoop there it is,
Daisy Duks, Tha Dip, Back that Azz up, Who Let the Dogs Out (booty
soca, that's some kind of twist anyway).
Pound for pound the UK's contributions are incredible, but the US is
an 8,000 ton gorilla. I think our indy bands are largely influenced by
UK acts but at the chart level it's at an all time low. Europe,
particularly Germany, has now entered the mix in a way that it really
never has before (sure, Kraftwerk, Italian disco, Laura Branigan), so
things might get slightly more interesting.
― Betty Cooper-American!, Thursday, 1 February 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
one year passes...
four years pass...
In a perfect world, the answer would be New Zealand. Stupid xenophobic music press. >:(
― GLC (ZakAce), Saturday, 21 October 2006 20:37 (seventeen years ago) link
The UK have been responsible for some stunning refinements and innovations, but the US created the framework of popular music.
Which country is responsible for the third biggest contribution, I wonder?
Taking into account more than just the 20th century and beyond, the winner is probably either Germany, Italy or maybe Greece.
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Saturday, 21 October 2006 21:03 (seventeen years ago) link