― Pete Scholtes, Monday, 2 August 2004 05:23 (nineteen years ago) link
― Sir Chaki McBeer III (chaki), Monday, 2 August 2004 08:12 (nineteen years ago) link
Ah hell, who am I kidding? Classic for Rum, Sodomy & The Lash, the finest record I own with the name "Elvis Costello" on it.
BTW, I too saw Joe Strummer playing with the Pogues (Detroit, '87) during the same tour that Chris mentioned upthread, and everything he says about that show was right on. As far as I can remember...
(They did "London Calling"! Sounded GREAT!)
― Myonga Von Bontee (Myonga Von Bontee), Monday, 2 August 2004 09:40 (nineteen years ago) link
― matthew james (matthew james), Monday, 2 August 2004 12:10 (nineteen years ago) link
― lauren (laurenp), Monday, 2 August 2004 14:58 (nineteen years ago) link
The Joe Strummer tour was reviewed in one of the UK weekly mags with the classic headline "Rum, Sodomy and The Clash".
― Onimo (GerryNemo), Monday, 2 August 2004 15:12 (nineteen years ago) link
― Sir Chaki McBeer III (chaki), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 00:02 (nineteen years ago) link
― kyle (akmonday), Thursday, 1 December 2005 07:34 (eighteen years ago) link
― kyle (akmonday), Thursday, 1 December 2005 07:35 (eighteen years ago) link
― chaki, Saturday, 31 March 2007 00:46 (seventeen years ago) link
― unperson, Saturday, 31 March 2007 00:59 (seventeen years ago) link
― chaki, Saturday, 31 March 2007 03:04 (seventeen years ago) link
― zeus, Saturday, 31 March 2007 10:05 (seventeen years ago) link
My book here says it's Shane McGowan's birthday today. He's 50 years old.
― Bimble, Wednesday, 26 December 2007 05:11 (sixteen years ago) link
Happy christmas yer arse.
― rogermexico., Wednesday, 26 December 2007 08:32 (sixteen years ago) link
Last night he was on Harry Hill's TV Burp singing Fairytale of New York with a beluga whale.
― ledge, Wednesday, 26 December 2007 12:51 (sixteen years ago) link
Shouldn't this topic be "Classic or Drunk"?
― Mr. Odd, Wednesday, 26 December 2007 20:57 (sixteen years ago) link
It is astounding that Shane MacGowan is still alive but Kirsty MacColl is dead.
― Mr. Snrub, Thursday, 27 December 2007 02:31 (sixteen years ago) link
And I think he will be touring with the Pogues in America in March 2008
― curmudgeon, Thursday, 27 December 2007 02:33 (sixteen years ago) link
"ferried around america with the pogues" might be a better construction. but he made 50, that's an achievement. the man's liver gives hope to us all. really all his organs deserve respect.
― tipsy mothra, Thursday, 27 December 2007 03:06 (sixteen years ago) link
Will someone please, please, please tell me who the woman is singing on this. I don't believe it's Kirsty MacColl. Please. Is this on a Pogues album? It's a b-side isn't it?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PN-8JpgmA0s
― Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You, Sunday, 24 August 2008 19:05 (fifteen years ago) link
Sounds like Belinda Carlisle but it's probably Cait O'Riordan.
― everything, Sunday, 24 August 2008 19:12 (fifteen years ago) link
that's Cait O'Riordan, who used to play bass for the Pogues until Daryl Hunt took over from "If I Should Fall..." Unfortunately, she married Elvis Costello after he produced "Rum, Sodomy, and the Lash."
That song was written by Shane MacGowan but it's on the Sid and Nancy soundtrack. It's also on the excellent Pogues box set that just came out.
― res, Sunday, 24 August 2008 20:03 (fifteen years ago) link
incidentally, MONUMENTAL CLASSIC. That box set kicks fucking ass.
― res, Sunday, 24 August 2008 20:16 (fifteen years ago) link
also a great version of that song with sinead o'connor on shane's first solo album.
― tipsy mothra, Sunday, 24 August 2008 21:34 (fifteen years ago) link
It was a single in its own right as well. As tipsy says, there's a version on "The Snake" as well featuring Sinead O'Connor.
― ailsa, Monday, 25 August 2008 00:40 (fifteen years ago) link
Sinead O'Connor version is not as good, IMHO. And his solo version of "Rake at the Gates of Hell" is fucking terrible compared to the original. But, shockingly, he made another amazing Christmas song after he went solo. It's called "Christmas Lullaby" and unbelievably, it's nearly as good as "Fairytale of New York." That song was on a limited edition single only, alas.
― res, Monday, 25 August 2008 01:16 (fifteen years ago) link
i sort of prefer the sinead version, it's more wistful and draws out the melody more. both are great though. "you looked so cool you could have put out vietnam" is one of my favorite shane lines.
― tipsy mothra, Monday, 25 August 2008 03:31 (fifteen years ago) link
here's the video to the album version of shane/sinead. (produced by trevor horn!)
― tipsy mothra, Monday, 25 August 2008 03:34 (fifteen years ago) link
Thanks ILM!!!!!!!!!
― Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You, Monday, 25 August 2008 03:56 (fifteen years ago) link
obligatory st paddy's day pogues video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TejJDFt6Tkk&feature=related
― hellzapoppa (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 17 March 2010 12:59 (fourteen years ago) link
and now I am lying here and I've had too much booze
― Hongro Horace (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 7 September 2010 11:58 (thirteen years ago) link
xmas eve in the drunk tank
― BIG MUFFIN (gbx), Sunday, 31 October 2010 00:14 (thirteen years ago) link
TOO EARLY
(<3)
― master of retardment (ENBB), Sunday, 31 October 2010 00:23 (thirteen years ago) link
i'm sad to say, i must be on me waySo buy me beer and whiskey cos I'm goin far away
― shining like national dog shit (Neanderthal), Sunday, 14 August 2011 14:06 (twelve years ago) link
Still one of the best live shows I've attended was the Pogues along with Joe Strummer back in 1988 or so. Listen to 'em less than I used to, but still got a place in my heart for RUM, and even for HELL'S DITCH.
― Matt M., Sunday, 14 August 2011 17:25 (twelve years ago) link
James Fearnley has written an AMAZING memoir about his time with the Pogues. I pretty much read it start to finish nonstop today. He's a phenomenally good writer, and boy does it tell a good story.
http://www.amazon.com/Here-Comes-Everybody-Pogues-ebook/dp/B007Q25LBI/ref=sr_1_fkmr1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1345612229&sr=8-1-fkmr1&keywords=here+comes+everyone+fearnley
― Poliopolice, Wednesday, 22 August 2012 05:11 (eleven years ago) link
http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2007/06_01/poguesMS0206_468x370.jpg
― Poliopolice, Thursday, 6 September 2012 21:20 (eleven years ago) link
That picture is, sadly, both classic and dud.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 6 September 2012 21:21 (eleven years ago) link
Nice homburg, tho
― Adesso vorrei assistere alle esequie vichinghe (Michael White), Thursday, 6 September 2012 21:24 (eleven years ago) link
That, my friends, is the face of a man who has lived life on his own terms.
― Poliopolice, Friday, 7 September 2012 14:04 (eleven years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/8FLJn.jpg
it's amazing what a set of dentures can do.
― Poliopolice, Friday, 7 September 2012 14:22 (eleven years ago) link
With the teeth in he looks like Steve Coogan on a bender.
― EZ Snappin, Friday, 7 September 2012 14:26 (eleven years ago) link
Anyone read this?http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51BByiRCCvL._SS500_.jpg
― Jazzbo, Friday, 7 September 2012 14:48 (eleven years ago) link
My book here says it's Shane McGowan's birthday today. He's 50 years old.― Bimble, Wednesday, December 26, 2007 12:11 AM (4 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― Bimble, Wednesday, December 26, 2007 12:11 AM (4 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I like to think Bimble had a book with every musician's birthday in it and he'd finish off each day by looking through it and choosing to whom he'd wish a happy birthday.
― Johnny Fever, Friday, 7 September 2012 15:03 (eleven years ago) link
I was going to get that book, but haven't yet. You can read sections of it on Amazon. What I read of it, it seemed somewhat academic to me. The author also wrote a positive review on Amazon for James Fearnley's (Pogues accordion player) book.
― Poliopolice, Friday, 7 September 2012 17:05 (eleven years ago) link
Sad news:
http://www.rte.ie/ten/news/2013/1008/479139-pogues-member-phil-chevron-has-died/
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 8 October 2013 16:41 (ten years ago) link
At least it was peaceful...
― The normative power of the factual (Michael White), Tuesday, 8 October 2013 16:48 (ten years ago) link
:(
RIP. As Joe Strummer noted, he was great at that insanely fast Irish triple-time strumming thing.
― Hip Hop Hamlet (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 8 October 2013 16:57 (ten years ago) link
re Soho: macgowan is one of the rare few songwriters I’m not mad at rhyming arms with charms macgowan said years ago that he didnt know what it was about even while he was writing until almost the end, which is something i love theres an ease to the flow of the lyrics that makes it very believable that it just showed up fully formed he was communing with a good & kind muse that day imo
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 9 December 2023 00:36 (five months ago) link
You’re the measure of my dreams
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Saturday, 9 December 2023 00:43 (five months ago) link
That one is breaking me right now
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Saturday, 9 December 2023 00:47 (five months ago) link
fully sobbed over that line again today
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 9 December 2023 00:52 (five months ago) link
Some people they are scared to croakBut Jimmy drank until he choked
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Saturday, 9 December 2023 00:54 (five months ago) link
WE WALKED HIM TO THE STATION IN THE RAINNNN
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 9 December 2023 00:57 (five months ago) link
WE KISSED HIM AS WE PUT HIM ON THE TRAIN
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Saturday, 9 December 2023 00:59 (five months ago) link
That was my first response when heard about his death, just posted the chorus to Sally MacLennane. We sang him a song of times long gone, though we knew that we'd be seeing him again.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Saturday, 9 December 2023 01:00 (five months ago) link
FARRR AWAAAY!!
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 9 December 2023 01:10 (five months ago) link
heard them say that Jimmy's making money far awayAnd some people left for heaven without warning
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Saturday, 9 December 2023 02:01 (five months ago) link
me fave:Now Jimmy didn't like his place in this world of oursWhere the elephant man broke strong men's necksWhen he'd had too many Powers
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 9 December 2023 02:47 (five months ago) link
Strangely, the lines that tend to get to me are
For to shift a few tons of this earthly delight
Yes to shift a few tons of this earthly delight
I know Shane didn't write that song but the way he delivers it just kinda works for me
― ; Powell (Ye Mad Puffin), Saturday, 9 December 2023 02:47 (five months ago) link
His delivery is at least as much a part of his appeal as his writing.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Saturday, 9 December 2023 04:24 (five months ago) link
And yet he was one of the rare songwriters whose lyrics are good on the page as well
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Saturday, 9 December 2023 05:07 (five months ago) link
Stumbled on this after watching an RTE Late Late Show tribute to McGowan from yesterday...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otVTYS1fR6c
― I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Saturday, 9 December 2023 21:30 (five months ago) link
(bah, can't embed, but it's Shane and many of the same people from the tribute from the other night, from 2019. Shane in not great shape but sings a bit alongside a large band including Terry Woods)
― I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Saturday, 9 December 2023 21:31 (five months ago) link
I don’t know enough about Puddles the clown to have an opinion of him, but this is a pretty delightful performance of “A Man You Don’t Meet Every Day” with THE actual Cait O’Riordan.
https://fb.watch/oQBALSjS81/?mibextid=cr9u03
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Saturday, 9 December 2023 21:33 (five months ago) link
every time I see a Puddles video I'm kind of blown away, that guy has a great voice and good schtick
― I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Saturday, 9 December 2023 21:39 (five months ago) link
(xxpost) if you ever wanted to see Martin O'Malley (yes that one) sing a Pogues song you can see it here
― I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Saturday, 9 December 2023 21:53 (five months ago) link
RS Album Guide
https://i.imgur.com/gd095xW.png
― omar little, Saturday, 9 December 2023 22:56 (five months ago) link
lol @ Waiting for Herb one-star. before I knew anything about The Pogues I wanted to get one of their albums because I'd heard good things about them and that album was the only one of theirs on the rack, and rather than do research, I picked it up, and was very confused by what I was hearing. didn't even realize it was a Shane-less album at the time.
suspect it'd be easier to like if it's not your first foray into Pogue-dom and you can hear it in context but never got through the first listen
― STUPID CRAP FACE (Neanderthal), Saturday, 9 December 2023 23:05 (five months ago) link
Tuesday Morning is a really good song. The rest of the album I don't remember! I don't remember hating it though. It was better than the next one.
― I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Saturday, 9 December 2023 23:34 (five months ago) link
weirdly it was produced by Michael Brook (of Eno/Lanois and Edge's 'infinite guitar' fame)
― I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Sunday, 10 December 2023 00:41 (five months ago) link
J.D.C. = J.D. Considine?
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 10 December 2023 01:05 (five months ago) link
i'm amazed there isn't more chat about the funeral. it was literally the craziest thing ever.
― stirmonster, Sunday, 10 December 2023 01:16 (five months ago) link
i can't find the whole thing online but it was cool to see Nick Cave do Rainy Night and Hansard do Fairytale. Lots of love in there. Was the terribly old man in the front pew McGowan's father? Also, was the casket in a wicker basket?
― I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Sunday, 10 December 2023 01:25 (five months ago) link
yes and yes. his father seemed to be emotionally in turmoil throughout while everyone else was having the time of their lives, his wife especially. not being judgemental here; it was very fitting, but very, very odd seeing his wife leaping over pews to dance. i'm not sure how typical this was but if it was, i have to say nobody seemingly does a funeral like the irish. well, maybe the good folk of new orleans can compete.
― stirmonster, Sunday, 10 December 2023 01:37 (five months ago) link
he was ill for so long I can't blame her for trying to finally have a good time.
― I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Sunday, 10 December 2023 02:03 (five months ago) link
i felt a bit of a kinship with his Dad being the only one not clapping, something about applause at a funeral in a church that feels slightly craven/sacriligious always feel a bit overcome for parents who outlive their children he’s quite up there iirc, isnt he in his mid 90’s?
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 10 December 2023 03:04 (five months ago) link
but the funeral also felt v mcgowan & the highspiritedness was of course appropriate for him & his vibe
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 10 December 2023 03:06 (five months ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQFLz0WHhSA
― Maresn3st, Sunday, 5 May 2024 18:58 (three weeks ago) link