― bkjj40a (bkjj40a), Friday, 19 August 2005 19:42 (nineteen years ago) link
― The Ghost of Black Elegance (Dan Perry), Friday, 19 August 2005 19:44 (nineteen years ago) link
That was a problem with me for the Cure re-issues. I still haven't bought the last 3 because I already have those albums in so many formats I couldn't get myself to spend that much money. Should I?
― LeRooLeRoo (Seb), Friday, 19 August 2005 20:37 (nineteen years ago) link
I've been holding off on The Cure albums, because they're so damn expensive, and Boys Don't Cry is missing key tracks like "Killing An Arab" and "Plastic Passion." Has anyone compared the remasters with the originals side-by-side?
― Fastnbulbous, Friday, 19 August 2005 21:44 (nineteen years ago) link
As for The Cure, I would skip Three Imaginary Boys, but Seventeen Seconds and Pornography are both stunning with great extras. Faith is an album I never really appreciated, but hearing it spun remastered with Carnage Visors on the end is excellent listening.
As for Siouxsie, if you've heard any of the B-Sides boxset, you'll know firsthand how much better the albums will potentially be when remastered.
I put most of it down to remater technology available now as opposed to 15+ years ago when record companies were rushing everything out to CD bc the format took off.
― bkjj40a (bkjj40a), Saturday, 20 August 2005 00:40 (nineteen years ago) link
Unrelated one: does anyone know if the Downside Up box is ever getting a US release?
Unrelated two: PRINCE. MUST. BE. REMASTERED. Purple Rain and (to a bit lesser extent) Around the World in a Day are acceptable, but the rest sound absolutely horrid. Sign o' the Times especially. Flat, lifeless, way too quiet...urgh.
― telephonething, who misplaced his password and is too lazy to get it resent, Saturday, 20 August 2005 03:18 (nineteen years ago) link
Got mine for a decent price (like $60?) on one of those Amazon z shops. Check it out. Didn't take long to arrive either. The packaging is mint. The sound is mint. Also bought one for my brother as a b-day gift (and so I don't have to lend mine out).
― bkjj40a (bkjj40a), Saturday, 20 August 2005 03:41 (nineteen years ago) link
― telephonething etc, Saturday, 20 August 2005 05:02 (nineteen years ago) link
I did but didn’t know Pornography could sound that good. The reasons why this process is taking so long and with delays is because Robert Smith wouldn't have it any other way. The other thing with the Cure is that the original issues are really poor. I feel that it's more than worth it money wise, but than again I'm a big fan.
I'm stunned that these are not going to be all double CD's. Than you say that it might be import only? Thought Siouxsie was a bit bigger.
― BeeOK (boo radley), Saturday, 20 August 2005 05:46 (nineteen years ago) link
― bkjj40a (bkjj40a), Saturday, 20 August 2005 14:12 (nineteen years ago) link
― sleeve (sleeve), Saturday, 20 August 2005 14:38 (nineteen years ago) link
― John Hunter, Saturday, 20 August 2005 15:49 (nineteen years ago) link
― John Hunter, Saturday, 20 August 2005 15:50 (nineteen years ago) link
A thread for the Cure reissues
― BeeOK (boo radley), Saturday, 20 August 2005 19:48 (nineteen years ago) link
― Ian Riese-Moraine: a casualty of social estrangement. (Eastern Mantra), Saturday, 20 August 2005 20:06 (nineteen years ago) link
― Baaderonixx on a long black leash (Fabfunk), Saturday, 20 August 2005 20:53 (nineteen years ago) link
― bkjj40a (bkjj40a), Saturday, 20 August 2005 22:58 (nineteen years ago) link
― Josh in Chicago (Josh in Chicago), Sunday, 21 August 2005 01:30 (nineteen years ago) link
― mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 22 August 2005 07:32 (nineteen years ago) link
Hurrah!
"# Make Up To Break Up (Riverside Session)# Love In A Void (Peel Session)# Mirage (Peel Session)# Metal Postcard (Peel Session)# Suburban Relapse (Peel Session)# Hong Kong Garden (Peel Session)# Overground (Peel Session)# Carcass (Peel Session)# Helter Skelter (Peel Session)# Metal Postcard (Pathway Session)# Suburban Relapse’ (Pathway Session)# Staircase (Mystery) (Pathway Session)# Mirage (Pathway Session)# Nicotine Stain (Pathway Session)# Hong Kong Garden (7” Single Version)# Staircase (Mystery) (7” Single Version)
So once again (as with The Cure reissues) you're expected to buy the Downside Up box if you want "Voices" or "20th Century Boy"; and most importantly where's "Captain Scarlet"?!?
"Surely, the next one will have the "Live at the punk festival" version of "The Lords Prayer" etc... ?"
Logically (chronologically) I'd have thought it really should be on this one - although it really is pretty bloody dreadful and; unless there are substantially better quality recordings of it about than any IIII've ever heard; I can't imagine it ever being legitimately released.
― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Monday, 22 August 2005 07:57 (nineteen years ago) link
Oh yeah, "Captain Scarlet!"
― mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 22 August 2005 08:00 (nineteen years ago) link
― ehbenoit, Monday, 22 August 2005 11:42 (nineteen years ago) link
There are studio demos available for all of these!
― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Monday, 22 August 2005 12:01 (nineteen years ago) link
― ehbenoit, Monday, 22 August 2005 13:16 (nineteen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 22 August 2005 13:18 (nineteen years ago) link
― The Ghost of Black Elegance (Dan Perry), Monday, 22 August 2005 13:53 (nineteen years ago) link
― Baaderonixx on a long black leash (Fabfunk), Monday, 22 August 2005 13:59 (nineteen years ago) link
(x-post)
― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Monday, 22 August 2005 14:03 (nineteen years ago) link
― The Ghost of Black Elegance (Dan Perry), Monday, 22 August 2005 14:03 (nineteen years ago) link
― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Monday, 22 August 2005 14:06 (nineteen years ago) link
― Baaderonixx on a long black leash (Fabfunk), Monday, 22 August 2005 14:14 (nineteen years ago) link
― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Monday, 22 August 2005 14:19 (nineteen years ago) link
― ehbenoit, Monday, 22 August 2005 14:25 (nineteen years ago) link
― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Monday, 22 August 2005 14:25 (nineteen years ago) link
― The Ghost of Black Elegance (Dan Perry), Monday, 22 August 2005 14:25 (nineteen years ago) link
Yup. Completely blew me away the first time I heard it; none of the others have ever really come close.
"Tinderbox is a perfect album. The Scream is not."
Tinderbox was a predictable album. The Scream was not.
― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Monday, 22 August 2005 14:28 (nineteen years ago) link
― The Ghost of Black Elegance (Dan Perry), Monday, 22 August 2005 14:28 (nineteen years ago) link
― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Monday, 22 August 2005 14:32 (nineteen years ago) link
It's kind of akin to saying, "Oh, that just sounds like a typical Cure album" when none of them really sound alike (ESPECIALLY pre-1989).
― The Ghost of Black Elegance (Dan Perry), Monday, 22 August 2005 14:37 (nineteen years ago) link
― The Ghost of Black Elegance (Dan Perry), Monday, 22 August 2005 14:38 (nineteen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 22 August 2005 14:39 (nineteen years ago) link
Actually I've always thought that Seventeen Seconds and Faith very definitely belong together stylistically. ;~P
Be that as it may 'though, I'm not particularly saying that any particular album sounds specifically like any preceding one, just that (in the both cases) pretty much everything that either band released from, say, 1984 onwards was immediately recognisable as being by that band, and that from that point onwards the contents of each band's musical pallette was always far more familiar than it was unfamiliar.
― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Monday, 22 August 2005 14:53 (nineteen years ago) link
i do agree with you a bit on this stewart, but it kind of made it great in that way that it was sort of like the ultimate definition of the banshees at that point. it was a great record and the tour was fantastic, but ultimately as you inferred it was a bit expected for long standing fans. i have to say though, some of the songs were a bit sweeter than usual such as in the case of "sweetest chill" one of my favorite songs, "lands end" another schorcher and "party's fall", but the banshees vibe was still very much there. unlike the following two records which broke the mold, especially peepshow.
however, I still stand by kaleidoscope as their best record... i just can't sway on that. :)
"shoulders form rows to make waves again..."
― ehbenoit, Monday, 22 August 2005 16:16 (nineteen years ago) link
How I'd feel about their albums if I'd heard them in a different order other than chronologically as they were released (when they released), I have no idea - but (having only seen them once and heard the first couple of Peel sessions and Hong Kong Garden beforehand) The Scream astounded me in a way very few albums by anyone have done before or since.
― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Monday, 22 August 2005 18:32 (nineteen years ago) link
PeepshowTinderboxSuperstitionHyaena(bits of Kaleidescope, A Kiss In The Dreamhouse, Join Hands)NocturneThe ScreamJuju
― The Ghost of Black Elegance (Dan Perry), Monday, 22 August 2005 20:10 (nineteen years ago) link
Immediately got the entire back catalogue, then Looking Glass, Peepshow, Superstition as they were released. With the exceptions of Join Hands and The Rapture I say they are all chock full of goodies. Yes, Kaliedoscope is awesome.
Initially I was dissapointed that Through The Looking Glass had no originals, but can you imagine their canon without it now? And I trust it will continue to age more gracefully than any other work of theirs.
― Fortier (bkjj40a), Monday, 22 August 2005 22:25 (nineteen years ago) link
Tinderbox was the first LP I got. I remember distinctly that my first impression upon hearing it was that it reminded me of ... Sinead o' Connor... Tinderbox, Scream, Juju and possibly Rapture are the only SATB albums that are consistently great
― Baaderonixx on a long black leash (Fabfunk), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 06:46 (nineteen years ago) link
― The Ghost of Black Elegance (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 12:47 (nineteen years ago) link
Having investigated further I'm now seeing different and conflicting information and release dates everywhere! Does anyone here actually know for certain what's happening about this?
― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 12:54 (nineteen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 13:06 (nineteen years ago) link
Funny, when I managed to get JoinHands for Foppcheap, I thought it a reasonably consistent album up to the Lords Prayer. Like sides 3 and 3.5 of "The Scream"...
This version of TLP seemed quite different to the muffled Roxy live version I had in song 'bits'. I nearly fell off my chair (I was driving) when her bit of "Knocking on Heavens Door" went into the Legendary Stardust Cowboy track.
It's totally mad, daftest thing they ever did. I'm assuming the original was meant to have more (um..) menace behind it.
― Mark G, Monday, 12 September 2011 08:52 (thirteen years ago) link
who exactly would buy such a "megabox"?
― licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Monday, 12 September 2011 11:52 (thirteen years ago) link
Not me for a kickoff.
― Mark G, Monday, 12 September 2011 11:56 (thirteen years ago) link
middle-aged goth bank managers.
― challopian rubes (sic), Monday, 12 September 2011 13:08 (thirteen years ago) link
If they hadn't been doing the reissues, I would have
― Tal Berkowitz - Vaccine advocate (DJP), Monday, 12 September 2011 13:24 (thirteen years ago) link
FINALLY
http://www.slicingupeyeballs.com/2014/07/07/siouxsie-banshees-final-four-reissue/
Due September 15th. No further track details yet.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 7 July 2014 15:34 (ten years ago) link
Updated, release on Oct. 13, no tracklists yet:
http://www.slicingupeyeballs.com/2014/08/22/siouxsie-and-the-banshees-final-4-expanded-reissues-confirmed-for-oct-13-release/
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 22 August 2014 15:46 (ten years ago) link
Further:
It appears the Banshees’ archival releases indeed won’t be limited to the final four reissues. Dropping further hints on the Banshees’ Facebook group, Severin this week wrote, “Something else drops on Oct. 20th. Another thing in November. Something in the New Year and something BIG in March.”
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 22 August 2014 15:47 (ten years ago) link
Well, these came out! But I have yet to get them, and it turns out maybe that was a good thing in one case:
http://www.slicingupeyeballs.com/2014/11/01/siouxsie-banshees-peepshow-mastering-error-reissue/
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 1 November 2014 21:51 (nine years ago) link
Yeah that's annoying
― kissaroo and Tyler, too (DJP), Sunday, 2 November 2014 13:53 (nine years ago) link
I am really, really starting to sink into the oppressively smothering hollow shell that is Join Hands
― DJP, Tuesday, 24 February 2015 18:47 (nine years ago) link
Yeah, that was the last Siouxsie album I went back and got - 20 years after first getting into them!
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Tuesday, 24 February 2015 19:33 (nine years ago) link
Something about enduring MN-esque winter temperatures for the past 6 weeks for the first time in over 20 years combined with more concentrated snow than I've ever seen in my life has pushed me into the exact right headspace to appreciate every nook and cranny of this album, which has not kept me from looping "Icon" and "Playground Twist" for hours at a time.
― DJP, Tuesday, 24 February 2015 19:57 (nine years ago) link
that's a great album. it was unfairly maligned for a long time.
― akm, Wednesday, 25 February 2015 04:52 (nine years ago) link
JH always seemed a bit short despite the superfluois padding (Lord's Prayer - yawn) but the highs (ICON! Premature Burial!) definitely kicked my ass as a wee goth
― licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Wednesday, 25 February 2015 09:49 (nine years ago) link
Join Hands was always the one that seemed the most remarkable to me. Like, Kaleidoscope has better jams, but Join Hands is just this dark vision
― The Complainte of Ray Tabano, Wednesday, 25 February 2015 11:12 (nine years ago) link
Yeah it shows the band that they could have been but I guess the departure of the rhytm section acted as a reset button for them
― licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Wednesday, 25 February 2015 11:16 (nine years ago) link
Not quite rhythm! (Guitarist/drummer.)
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 25 February 2015 13:21 (nine years ago) link
The Join Hands remaster is great.
And jeez, I forgot how punishing of an album it is. Squally squally distortion everywhere.
― Austin, Saturday, 12 December 2015 03:26 (eight years ago) link
the vinyl remaster with the original artwork?
― akm, Tuesday, 15 December 2015 20:58 (eight years ago) link
so, the new boxset.
having not heard the previous set of remasters with extra tracks, i have to say this new cheap-n-cheerful boxset of the first 6 albums (coverart by one of our own !), sounds fantastic.
or, am i not an enough of a fanboy to notice the subtle f*ck ups ?
― mark e, Thursday, 4 February 2016 20:48 (eight years ago) link
wait who did the cover art don't make me buy this thing I have literally everything on it
― its subtle brume (DJP), Thursday, 4 February 2016 20:57 (eight years ago) link
in multiple formats
if they did an all-encompassing box covering the first two albums and attendant singles, and all previous....
"Oh, Ted, that would be amazin, woah yeah! Just that Ted..."
― Mark G, Thursday, 4 February 2016 21:07 (eight years ago) link
ahh : checked the post, not 'DID', but 'DIG'.sorry to have raised excitement levels.still, no left/right dropouts as mentioned on various s&b threads/discussion groups.tis a very slimline boxset, no credits, nothing.but, exactly what i wanted.though having heard the 14 minute 'lords prayer' track, i aint so sure now !
― mark e, Thursday, 4 February 2016 21:20 (eight years ago) link
haha
― its subtle brume (DJP), Thursday, 4 February 2016 21:23 (eight years ago) link
This box arrived at my house on Sunday. Ten minutes after I left for a week :(
― Ad h (onimo), Friday, 5 February 2016 17:35 (eight years ago) link
this is exactly the kind of box set I want to replace my grocery bags full of cassettes.
― erry red flag (f. hazel), Friday, 5 February 2016 19:09 (eight years ago) link
thanks to thread bump for alerting me to this:
http://www.discogs.com/Siouxsie-And-The-Banshees-At-The-BBC/release/1800195
and wow, Downside Up sure needs a repress!
― the 'major tom guy' (sleeve), Friday, 5 February 2016 19:11 (eight years ago) link
wow this box is cheap. i will probably buy it; I just sold almost all my cds but still.
― akm, Friday, 5 February 2016 20:20 (eight years ago) link
xp yeah a Downside Up reissue for a reasonable price would be awesome. But please god not in a clamshell box.
― we salute you, our half-inflated dark lord (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Saturday, 6 February 2016 03:12 (eight years ago) link