― Gear! (Gear!), Monday, 18 July 2005 20:05 (nineteen years ago) link
― 3, Monday, 18 July 2005 20:06 (nineteen years ago) link
― 3, Monday, 18 July 2005 20:07 (nineteen years ago) link
― Gear! (Gear!), Monday, 18 July 2005 20:14 (nineteen years ago) link
― miccio (miccio), Monday, 18 July 2005 20:25 (nineteen years ago) link
― 007 (thoia), Tuesday, 19 July 2005 04:01 (nineteen years ago) link
i think i just wanted to brag about how i was up on dipset before the blogosphere.
also remember when everyone loved cam'ron because of "boys" back when the whole kanye/justblaze thing was breaking? haha yeah those were the days.
(dipset qua dipset -- i.e. not the individual dudes -- also gets plenty of b.e.t. play, so its not just the blogosphere that digs em. tho maybe the blogosphere is fairly alone in rilly digging the mixtapes. speculation: dipset mixtapes are real easy to get ahold of & becuz of low album sales & lack of source covereage are therefore hipper than say 50 vs. LL Cool Jay AND Tigra pt. 48 & therefore are custom-made for indie-ethos consumption? "whoa -- he rhymed apple with snapple with dapple with lapel with crabapple with paffle with grapple with clappel!")
― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Tuesday, 19 July 2005 04:21 (nineteen years ago) link
― 007 (thoia), Tuesday, 19 July 2005 04:37 (nineteen years ago) link
― 007 (thoia), Tuesday, 19 July 2005 04:39 (nineteen years ago) link
(thanks SFJ! best track i ever downloaded! ...oops)
― yuengling participle (rotten03), Tuesday, 19 July 2005 04:42 (nineteen years ago) link
― yuengling participle (rotten03), Tuesday, 19 July 2005 04:44 (nineteen years ago) link
― 007 (thoia), Tuesday, 19 July 2005 05:05 (nineteen years ago) link
― deej.., Tuesday, 19 July 2005 05:15 (nineteen years ago) link
― 007 (thoia), Tuesday, 19 July 2005 05:23 (nineteen years ago) link
― 007 (thoia), Tuesday, 19 July 2005 05:24 (nineteen years ago) link
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Tuesday, 19 July 2005 05:25 (nineteen years ago) link
― 007 (thoia), Tuesday, 19 July 2005 05:29 (nineteen years ago) link
― deej.., Tuesday, 19 July 2005 05:30 (nineteen years ago) link
― 007 (thoia), Tuesday, 19 July 2005 05:32 (nineteen years ago) link
― deej.., Tuesday, 19 July 2005 05:38 (nineteen years ago) link
"Cam'ron's Harlem-raised protege Juelz Santana is most intriguing of all because he doesn't even try to deny his sympathies (I wonder how many similar facades will fall before too long). Santana (and what a historically provocative name *that* is) actually boasts about identifying with those who would censor and destroy his own music; the much-vaunted "courage when he was driving the plane / reminds me of when I was dealing the 'cane" line, alluding to the perpetrators of September 11th, is actually a piece of headline-seeking self-importance which doesn't really shock at all; what does make me almost fall out of my chair in shock, especially in context of everything Bush has stirred up, is the casual, presumably approving shout of "Taliban!" at the intro of the Diplomats' "I'm Ready", and again towards the end (I almost described the song as a "posse cut", but to call this a posse cut would be like calling "Anarchy In The UK" skiffle). The word is not presented as some universal evil, just as something casual to say, JUST ANOTHER WORD, JUST ANOTHER ANALOGY. The song itself sounds fascistic in its sheer bludgeoning of the point; Mark E. Smith would have approved of this when he sang "Repetition in our music / And we're never going to lose it" (inspired by Neu!, of course, as were the Sex Pistols' fundamentally defunkified rhythms - indeed you could say this 2003 wave of fascist-hop is doing to hip-hop what the Pistols did to rock music, fundamentally removing it from its inherently black rhythmic roots) a quarter of a century ago. Same sped-up vocal sample for the best part of 5 minutes, no flux or sonic evolution at all, no trace of the flexibility of black pop past and much of the present."
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Tuesday, 19 July 2005 05:42 (nineteen years ago) link
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Tuesday, 19 July 2005 05:45 (nineteen years ago) link
i remember some new yorker shit abt jayz from then! and radiohead! the ties that bind! but yeah i think the recent kelefa on cam, maybe alot of explication, hilighting whats tender, ws def influential
― 007 (thoia), Tuesday, 19 July 2005 05:45 (nineteen years ago) link
― deej.., Tuesday, 19 July 2005 05:48 (nineteen years ago) link
― 007 (thoia), Tuesday, 19 July 2005 05:52 (nineteen years ago) link
Generally speaking Robin is obsessed with mapping politics (specifically British politics) onto music so linking Juelz Santana with fascism isn't as provocative from his perspective as it would be if most other critics did it.
I think Ronan equated twee electronica with fascism too at one stage. Or hyper-racist British conservatism at any rate. It was that time that he and Dave Stelfox went to war with each other and ended up being besties and both hating ILM...
Golden Years...
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Tuesday, 19 July 2005 06:13 (nineteen years ago) link
― 007 (thoia), Tuesday, 19 July 2005 06:23 (nineteen years ago) link
Although I wouldn't be surprised if Ronan did too!
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Tuesday, 19 July 2005 07:00 (nineteen years ago) link
we've got to warn them!! -- W i l l (lolomgwt...), June 26th, 2001
^^^^ lol
― ,,, Tuesday, 31 January 2006 18:54 (eighteen years ago) link
http://www.daviddarling.info/images/Time_Tunnel.jpg
― and what, Wednesday, 30 April 2008 14:54 (sixteen years ago) link
lol this thread
― jordy (J0rdan S.), Friday, 30 January 2009 00:26 (fifteen years ago) link
Rappers are like Rod Stewart now; they're like a bunch of Liberaces with their gold rims. The Diplomats are just a little bit off key from what others are doing. They seem to be experimenting the most, and they have a real fight mentality. It's the guerilla side of hip-hop."
Maya Arulpragasam, New York Times
huh
― jordy (J0rdan S.), Friday, 30 January 2009 00:27 (fifteen years ago) link
lawl
― Mare Street tour guide (Dom Passantino), Friday, 30 January 2009 00:32 (fifteen years ago) link
hahahaha what the shit
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 30 January 2009 00:43 (fifteen years ago) link
What he DOES offer...is fire.― Gear! (Gear!), Tuesday, June 26, 2001 11:01 PM (7 years ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
lol i was thinking about this literally yesterday
― some dude, Friday, 30 January 2009 00:50 (fifteen years ago) link
btw i need to call bullshit on gear finding purple haze on lp for $2
― jordy (J0rdan S.), Friday, 30 January 2009 00:53 (fifteen years ago) link
wtf happened to the time stamps in this thread...
miccio, you had a problem with a song being goofy?!?
― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, June 27, 2001 3:23 AM (7 years ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
lol
― crackers is biters (M@tt He1ges0n), Friday, 30 January 2009 01:02 (fifteen years ago) link