the aesthetic of obscured or effaced vocals
FYI this is a totally different subject than shoegaze!
Kinda like saying, "Is there an article about how shoegaze came about? I started thinking about the aesthetic of distorted, woozy guitar sounds..."
― more than ever convinced ilxor is a sock (ilxor), Thursday, 14 October 2010 05:35 (thirteen years ago) link
Which would be another perfectly apropos line of inquiry. But pgwp's topic seems like the more interesting one.
― Waldstein Sinatra (Paul in Santa Cruz), Thursday, 14 October 2010 05:43 (thirteen years ago) link
Yeah I recognize it's a bigger subject than shoegaze and thought I said as much. There are lots of avenues to go down and shoegaze is definitely one of them.
― scott pgwp (pgwp), Thursday, 14 October 2010 05:54 (thirteen years ago) link
the just-reissued ashrae fax 'static crash' ep has some pretty special moments
― electricsound, Monday, 1 July 2013 06:57 (ten years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qyXicOwLriI
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 23 June 2017 23:29 (six years ago) link
Really looking forward to this, as are the other 5 or 6 of you that bought the Still In A Dream box set!
https://thirdmanrecords.com/news/third-man-records-announces-southeast-of-saturn
― henry s, Saturday, 12 September 2020 22:31 (three years ago) link
https://third-man-records.imgix.net/d7eb161a-9098-4296-ad82-0a29e344dae3/unnamed.jpg?auto=compress%2Cformat&fit=min&fm=jpg&q=80&rect=0%2C0%2C1200%2C1137
― henry s, Saturday, 12 September 2020 22:32 (three years ago) link
This looks really cool, thanks!
― Maresn3st, Sunday, 13 September 2020 14:56 (three years ago) link
Here's one, a bonus Teenage Filmstars track. Hits the spot!! Amazing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ec9RQrUAOYU
― Evan, Thursday, 10 February 2022 22:38 (two years ago) link
Just been listening to All Natural Lemon & Lime Flavors (of whom three members guest on the incredible Dalek track Forever Close My Eyes) - Turning Into Small is a lovely album!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yG4u0LR8nzo
― imago, Thursday, 10 February 2022 23:15 (two years ago) link
I love that album and the band comes from a very middle of nowhere wooded town in a part of north New Jersey that you would only expect to hear dueling banjos. I was so flabbergasted that a top tier shoegaze band of all things came from there. I grew up a town away.
― Evan, Friday, 11 February 2022 01:35 (two years ago) link
I love that band, & I had no idea they were from rural north New Jersey. That endears them to me even more, having grown up in Warren Co.
― feed me with your chips (zchyrs), Friday, 11 February 2022 14:14 (two years ago) link
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/ce/09/bd/ce09bddec81ad6e0540aa1c59eda5090.jpg
[faint sounds of shoegaze in the distance]
― Evan, Friday, 11 February 2022 14:42 (two years ago) link
aw <3
― imago, Friday, 11 February 2022 14:45 (two years ago) link
Not 100% gaze, but very much classic and perhaps a little overlooked -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XA1qeKFQMIg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yOOxUz7sXBY
― Maresn3st, Friday, 11 February 2022 14:54 (two years ago) link
Love Straightjacket Fits! What was the 2nd one supposed to be?
Maresn3st have you heard that Teenage Filmstars track I posted? Scratches an early Lilys / Drop Nineteens / Swervedriver itch for me.
― Evan, Friday, 11 February 2022 16:14 (two years ago) link
Yea!!! Love it, I got kinda Swirlies top notes from it too
― Maresn3st, Friday, 11 February 2022 16:18 (two years ago) link
The second YT? It's just another SF tune, Down in Splendour, Andrew Brough was def the gaze end of the band.
― Maresn3st, Friday, 11 February 2022 16:19 (two years ago) link
Ah OK cool; it's broken on my end.
Yeah definitely Swirlies too but they were always so focused, and to me this track has that zoned out feeling the bands I cited had the tendency to do, where it sounds like they're lost in the bliss of the chord changes and aren't guaranteed to snap out of it.
― Evan, Friday, 11 February 2022 16:28 (two years ago) link
don't know their catalog well enough to know if they pulled out more like this one, but...
outrageous cherry, "if someone loves you"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32hDKDkSLOw
― andrew m., Friday, 11 February 2022 17:34 (two years ago) link
It's been awhile since I listened to anything else by them but I LOVE that album in particular
― Evan, Friday, 11 February 2022 18:05 (two years ago) link
always loved the first smashing orange album. it is very derivative but all the same, it fucking rocks:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6HNOeXDHDaU
― o shit the sheriff (NickB), Friday, 11 February 2022 21:50 (two years ago) link
Me too. Someone taped stuck a few of their songs on the end of bootleg tape of a Ride concert for me in the summer of 91. I then spent a few hopeless months going into record shops trying to find anything by them and repeatedly being asked "Don't you mean Smashing Pumpkins?" until I gave up. I eventually found an album of theirs in 1993 which had at least one of the tracks from that tape on it (Not Very Much To See), but mysteriously had a very different version of My Deranged Heart on it. Another year passed and then I finally tracked down another album that had the 'proper' version on it. I don't actually know which of those albums came out first and I assume the group had split up long before I actually finally managed to buy them.
― Nasty, Brutish & Short, Friday, 11 February 2022 21:58 (two years ago) link
(A quick visit to discogs later) Weirdly it seems that both the albums I bought were released in 1991, but that the four songs originally taped for me were the A-sides and B-sides of two singles also released in 1991 (that also featured on the albums).https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AeSvPNFe6bg
― Nasty, Brutish & Short, Friday, 11 February 2022 22:05 (two years ago) link
john peel used to play 'my deranged heart' and 'only complete in you'. they did actually survive until 1995-ish, they got signed to MCA in the big clamour for alt-rock bands and put out one last album that totally stiffed afaict. all their stuff is supercheap on the cogs now
― o shit the sheriff (NickB), Friday, 11 February 2022 22:07 (two years ago) link
Love Smashing Orange! Everybody is pointing out my favorite bands this is great
― Evan, Saturday, 12 February 2022 15:52 (two years ago) link
This feels like something Ned would like?
Anyway, this was circulated for years on blogs but I recently stumbled on this OFFICIAL download complete with the cassette artwork and this was exciting for me.
FREE DOWNLOAD, too!
https://washperth.bandcamp.com/album/wash
― Evan, Monday, 16 January 2023 15:11 (one year ago) link
Huh, wonder what their deal was.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 16 January 2023 17:04 (one year ago) link
Obviously I don't have much info, but I heard they once opened for Swervedriver (in Australia where they're from). I do wonder why they didn't happen...
― Evan, Monday, 16 January 2023 17:16 (one year ago) link
This tape is great though. Glad it exists. More people need to hear it.
― Evan, Monday, 16 January 2023 17:19 (one year ago) link
Bumping because: see above post
Also I crave engagement (needy as usual) and am currently hopped up on music discoveries
― Evan, Tuesday, 17 January 2023 14:43 (one year ago) link
Like this incredible one:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjIzmQ1BGYM
― Evan, Tuesday, 17 January 2023 15:28 (one year ago) link
This one kind of a Lorelei mixed with early Lilys, early Swirlies & early Polvo sound! Winner
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0uoCdmGIouw
― Evan, Tuesday, 17 January 2023 17:08 (one year ago) link
This band is great too:
http://www.youtube.com/playlist?app=desktop&list=OLAK5uy_k4Km8ZWlJyZE9BXcF3bsyG3sZHs6Iwlqk
― Evan, Tuesday, 17 January 2023 20:55 (one year ago) link
It's Mean Red Spiders. For some reason that link used the app interface or whatever
― Evan, Tuesday, 17 January 2023 20:56 (one year ago) link
Hey, thanks for the heads up on that Wash album!
― Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 18 January 2023 00:32 (one year ago) link
You’re welcome!
― Evan, Wednesday, 18 January 2023 01:37 (one year ago) link
Yeah that's a damn good listen.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 18 January 2023 01:55 (one year ago) link
Ned - question for you - that band I posted above "Study of the Lifeless". I'm having a heckuva time finding concrete info about their 2nd album "World Revolves Around You". I presume it must have released on CD but the internet weirdly has no evidence of this. Do you know?
https://www.allmusic.com/album/world-revolves-around-you-mw0000986965
(btw someone made wild guesses with those "style" tags... way off)
― Evan, Thursday, 19 January 2023 17:56 (one year ago) link
very weird hearing Filosofem by Burzum for the first time in the mid 90s and hearing the guitars on there. If you didn't hear the harshg vocals I think Shoegaze is very much what you would be thinking.JUst checking this now and yeah definitely what I'm hearing.
― Stevolende, Thursday, 19 January 2023 20:58 (one year ago) link
xpost Hm, couldn't tell you. One of those turn-of-the-millennium bands keeping the sound going as they could. Had almost forgotten about them!
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 19 January 2023 21:20 (one year ago) link
Pluramon 2003 & 2007 albumsLuminous orange 1999 ep
― CerebralCaustic, Thursday, 19 January 2023 21:58 (one year ago) link
Dang I guess I'll need to keep digging
xp
― Evan, Thursday, 19 January 2023 22:21 (one year ago) link
Ultra Cindy!
http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLP-LgxRc_GDxbibbpTVGDJoAvv0fmk-Z7&themeRefresh=1
― Evan, Thursday, 19 January 2023 22:22 (one year ago) link
Another Heaven is great for nugaze
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rgv9n8ApQbs
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 20 January 2023 00:13 (one year ago) link
Just noticed that Fleeting Joys are active againhttps://fleetingjoys1.bandcamp.comhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FGVZTe5XOAE
― Elvis Telecom, Friday, 20 January 2023 03:29 (one year ago) link
It's fairly well known but I don't see it mentioned enough outside Rateyourmusic: The Angel Pool by The Autumns is really gorgeous, can't recommend it highly enough, and the singer is the opposite from 99% of vocalists in the genre.
The Autumns - The Angel Pool Sianspheric - (first two albums)Teenage Filmstars - Star
two great bands with mostly same lineup:Polar - A Future History Of The frigid Polar NightPolar - Lies Set By The Polar MobCon Dolore - This Sad Movie
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Sunday, 22 January 2023 00:46 (one year ago) link
The third album This Sad Movie is particularly amazing.
Another vote for Alison's Halo - Eyedazzler
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Sunday, 22 January 2023 00:53 (one year ago) link
Alison's Halo have been working on a kind of wrap EP for, well, years now (not a complaint, I think they're just fitting it among other things, pandemic, etc.). Backed it a while back and seems like it should be coming out this year.
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 22 January 2023 01:06 (one year ago) link
Didn't they have a new name like Locheed? I'm sure there was a new band coming from the duo?
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Sunday, 22 January 2023 01:42 (one year ago) link