classic Wu-Tang solo run poll

I just keep seeing deej running into Taco Bell and screaming "WHERE THE PAD THAI AT, NIGGA? POW POW WAKA WAKA GUCCI MANE"

― GLEERILLAZ! (HI DERE), Thursday, October 14, 2010 1:06 PM (7 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

still LOLing at this....

seriously though have you guys seen a menu at cheesecake factory? shit's like the manual to Protools

where we only spread love and talk about jungle bros.

dude those jungle bros threads are usually just you and me lol

upper: yea, and it has advertisements in it. I think i've had approximately 8% of the stuff on the menu. also some of the items have enough calories to be like an entire day's worth of eating.

now i want an xxl chalupa

man 8% is probably what like 20 dishes?

yea. I took my ex there A LOT last year, plus there's one right close to me.

you guys really shouldn't eat at cheesecake factory. for your health, if no other reason.

now off to have my 11th cigarette of the last five hours.

lol.

no joke tho after I read about the calorie counts at that place it was like o_O

the thread that keeps on giving

i am eating some good-ass pad thai right now. in all serious i suggest pad thai today for those who have yet to eat lunch.

ok fuck yes I am now going to make for lunch my world-famous Pad Thai Del Unemployment Line

peanut butter soy sauce and linguine noodles & don't fucking knock it til you try it

aerosmith livin on the edge

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0BlXy3Roj4

also still dope btw

When I go to the Cheesecake factory, I order the Pad Thai off the "exotic sensations" page.

I chugged a broccoli cheese soup purchased at Einstein Bros :(

what the blood clot indeed

hey guys: fuck you

take it to the cee-lo thread

hey deej in seriousness would like to hear what you think about biz and kool g rap as i mentioned up thread

cuz to me Biz is exactly what yr talking about but sometimes ppl don't see personas etc unless they are really serious ones like scarface

i thought that was a really good pt & im glad someone is actually paying attention to what im saying. biz strikes me as a dude whose personality translated very fully thru his raps early on

i mean thats the thing, theres a detachment to gza that ghost doesnt have

hey guys: fuck you

so mad

biz strikes me as a dude whose personality translated very fully thru his raps early on

even tho Big Daddy Kane wrote a bunch of them lol

I don't buy the thing about personas at all really

so mad

― am0n, Thursday, October 14, 2010 12:40 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

yes im rather aggy

even tho Big Daddy Kane wrote a bunch of them lol

― i was like a person at a table at a place (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, October 14, 2010 12:43 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

maybe he was a good writer?

i do understand yr point, but i would like to throw in that i feel like you kinda of underrate the old school punchlining stuff...

to me that era will always just sound fresh, it's the only time in my life where i got to hear something *really* happening, like a new genre coming into maturity....that stuff seems like chuck berry records or james brown records or the stooges or whatever, like very dated to its time but also timeless...

like i heard a buddy holly song on a commercial and i was like damn that is dope...just feels perfect....that era of rap is like that to me...

maybe the punchlines are dated and i understand that it def hold you at a certain distance to the artist, like who IS big daddy kane, you don't have a feel for him outside of a loverman/microphone technician (as opposed to Schooly D or Slick Rick or Biz who are more fully formed characters)....but that makes it no less great to me.

but honestly i'll be stuck on that stuff to a certain point my whole life...the same way that 60s dudes are stuck on dylan and the beatles and hendrix and etc, because honestly we can all talk about oh man school of seven bells rules or the new waka flocka record is dope but it's SOOOOO rare to hear something really being born, then grow up in front of you....nirvana/alternative/indie (which i guess would be the other thing considered a "revolution" in the canon that I lived through) isn't the same...like it was only because it got popular, everyone in the know (like dudes older/cooler than me) just saw it as a surfacing of 80s underground U.S. rock in pop culture.

but to turn on the TV and see "Microphone Fiend" for the first time? To hear Rakim's voice for the first time...man I will never forget that.

(xposts)

Fuckin' frame Matt's post somewhere and be done with it, because that says it all.

to me that era will always just sound fresh, it's the only time in my life where i got to hear something *really* happening, like a new genre coming into maturity....that stuff seems like chuck berry records or james brown records or the stooges or whatever, like very dated to its time but also timeless...

yeah this is totally how I feel about it too. maybe it's just personal "you had to be there" shit

just to derail further: wasn't dance music / techno really happening, in a much more decisive ground-breaking way, than underground rock?

i lived on a farm in southern mn, so like had zero idea until the chemical bros. and moby and prodigy and shit like that, but yeah i guess in uk and other places it was

dance music's big revolution seems like it happened in the late 70s/early 80s to me. by the time rave kicked in in the 90s it was just ooh louder/faster/bigger/more annoying

xp

but yeah the 90s stuff was a MUCH bigger deal in the UK/europe than it was here

dance music's big revolution seems like it happened in the late 70s/early 80s to me.

btw what I'm referring to here is stuff like disco edits, the wholesale adoption of synths/drum machines/computers, the DJ as artist, etc.

everything that came after was just an extension of those concepts/approaches

nuh uh

do tell

"everything that came after was just an extension of those concepts/approaches"

Couldn't you make that absurdly reductionist claim about basically anything? I mean why listen to any metal post-Sabbath it's "just an extension of those concepts/approaches", etc.

I didn't think that was direct commentary on the worth of what came after, but rather an opinion on what constitutes something being "seminal" with the added indirect rider that he finds seminal works more interesting/exciting than things that expand upon the original toolkit.

So, it's not that that stuff was worthless or anything, it just wasn't as exciting as disco. Which, you know, is kind of silly, but then that's why opinions are so fun to argue over.

well I did say 90s techno was "more annoying" so in some ways it was a value judgment albeit a flippant one. you could say it about a lot of genres (I don't think metal is a good example tho, cuz metal REALLY broadened as it grew older). but yeah pretty much every genre takes shape around a few basic tenets that are then explored and refined in subsequent years, it's just the way it is I don't think it's inherently negative. My point with dance music was that the seminal/shaping of the genre occurred way earlier than the 90s. If there was some massive formal shift in dance music in the 90s I have no idea what it was, feel free to elaborate.

and yeah M@tt's whole post was about the excitement of witnessing a genre take shape - which IS exciting - so that's what I was referring to.

I think the wholesale appropriation of sampling in the late 80s took dance music in a bunch of different, divergent directions, culminating in the explosion of sub-genres that marked dance music in the early 90s.

i wasn't leaving out techno/dance on purpose, my post was more personal, what hip hop meant to me back then. i didn't even know techno existed back then, and i still don't really know enough about it to say how significant it was or which era was important.

though that said, i don't think it would have felt the same to me because hip hop wasn't just watching a music take shape, it was really an exposure to people, or the lives of people in america that i couldn't imagine and had no knowledge of...like i would see the videos and think about the bronx or compton and it was so far away to me. even just the street names and the neighborhoods or references to local businesses (like sir mix-a-lot talking about dick's hamburgers) clothing or shoes, just all the little details of lives i couldn't fathom.

techno doesn't have those things.

it's weird to think about that time when everything wasn't available to you all the time, how amazing it was when you found something.

well no, techno in its purest form is all about gay robots giving you dance drugs

First result in google for gay robots dance drugs:

http://www.houseofdiabolique.com/links.htm

Face it. You have little reason to visit any other websites after seeing mine.
But here are some that interest me.

microhouse is weak like clock radio speakers.

i mean those kinds of similies are basically like, your literature/language arts teacher explaining rap music kind of goofy. its just ... dated juice crew type ish. rappers inhabit personas more fully now

― j. sargent & lil k3v (deej), Wednesday, October 13, 2010 10:23 AM (Yesterday) Bookmark

"clever and/or unexpected wordplay is so dated" goes a very long way towards why I don't feel a lot of current hip-hop

― GLEERILLAZ! (HI DERE), Wednesday, October 13, 2010 12:21 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

metal (discussed upthread) is a good comparison genre, though. i love metal, and have to admit that i don't want my orc-puverizing fantasies interrupted by goofy, artist-humanizing asides. i want nonstop blood and thunder. maybe this is because i genuinely enjoy certain aspects of metal's fantasy universe: weed, monsters, insanity, barbarian carnage, horror flicks, etc. and maybe it's because the fundamental unreality of that universe prevents me from ever taking the artistic POV too seriously. i dunno. point is, i'm not so in love with the corollary aspects of contemporary rap's fantasy universe: dealing, wealth, gangsters, strippers, clubs, etc. and rap's not always so clear about the placement of the line that separates entertaining fantasy from ugly reality. which goes some way towards explaining why i like it when the personas involved aren't quite so fully inhabited.

and maybe it's because the fundamental unreality of that universe prevents me from ever taking the artistic POV too seriously.

yeah this is a key difference, I alluded to it upthread