Since it's probably the best rock record that's going to come out this year: Death (detroit proto punk not metal band) - "...For The Whole World To See" Thread

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black guys made a record, lost it

vehemence is mine (Edward III), Thursday, 14 October 2010 18:48 (thirteen years ago) link

they're just a good band. if ...for all the world to see had come out way back when, people would still be listening to it and talking about it.

miss danilelle steven and her clitoral stimulator, away! (contenderizer), Thursday, 14 October 2010 18:49 (thirteen years ago) link

...for the whole world to see, or like that

miss danilelle steven and her clitoral stimulator, away! (contenderizer), Thursday, 14 October 2010 18:50 (thirteen years ago) link

black guys made a record, lost it

yeah, boring in its boiled-down state, but I think many elements of the story tie rather comfortably into our society's increasingly unquenchable thirst for some kind of authentic, uncommodified expression. which is why I asked.

Lazarus Niles-Burnham (res), Thursday, 14 October 2010 19:12 (thirteen years ago) link

i mean, the context of it makes it a "story", sure ... but no one would care if the record really sucked. there are lots of bands from back in the day that made records that don't really deserve to be rediscovered.

tylerw, Thursday, 14 October 2010 19:16 (thirteen years ago) link

but most aren't *black* *punk* bands (before punk existed) who mysteriously disappeared off the face of the planet. honestly, I think this would have played very differently in the media if it were some young white guys.

Lazarus Niles-Burnham (res), Thursday, 14 October 2010 19:19 (thirteen years ago) link

I don't care how it played in the media - the music is great. Context isn't everything.

EZ Snappin, Thursday, 14 October 2010 19:20 (thirteen years ago) link

if you want authentic uncommodified expression you listen to tonetta, death just made a good rock n roll record

vehemence is mine (Edward III), Thursday, 14 October 2010 19:20 (thirteen years ago) link

honestly, I think this would have played very differently in the media if it were some young white guys.
sure it might not have gotten as much attention -- it's a unique story. but the music is good. it rocks, you should check it out. whether it was made by black dudes, white dudes, whatever dudes. i

tylerw, Thursday, 14 October 2010 19:23 (thirteen years ago) link

I heard the song "Politicians" a few minutes ago. It sounded pretty much what I thought it would sound like. It was fine, but not really my bag; I wouldn't have given it much thought without the story. The most notable thing to me was the bizarre drum/guitar interplay at the beginning, which seemed to me to be a little forced and awkward. I'm also not really a fan of most of the bands that people are using as reference points to describe Death, so I guess it doesn't surprise me that I wouldn't choose to listen to this (at least based on that song).

Lazarus Niles-Burnham (res), Thursday, 14 October 2010 19:31 (thirteen years ago) link

man i dunno i think the same vinyl collector scum like meself would be going bonkers about this no matter what, forgotten awesome lost 70s hard rock records are virtually a cottage industry at this point

drag city puts out a lot of stuff in the vein, like gary higgins red hash got a lot of attention (different genre but same great lost album thing) and he's a ginger hippie

m also not really a fan of most of the bands that people are using as reference points to describe Death, so I guess it doesn't surprise me that I wouldn't choose to listen to this (at least based on that song).

okay? i'm not really sure what ax yr trying to grind here, then

S Beez Wit the Remedy (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 14 October 2010 19:32 (thirteen years ago) link

I think this would have played very differently in the media if it were some young white guys.

― Lazarus Niles-Burnham (res), Thursday, October 14, 2010 12:19 PM (11 minutes ago) Bookmark

true of everything, therefore meaningless. what if prince had been white? what if bruce springsteen had been chinese? i'm sure things would have played very differently...

miss danilelle steven and her clitoral stimulator, away! (contenderizer), Thursday, 14 October 2010 19:33 (thirteen years ago) link

relax guys. deep breath. you are not your music.

Lazarus Niles-Burnham (res), Thursday, 14 October 2010 19:37 (thirteen years ago) link

no shit

S Beez Wit the Remedy (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 14 October 2010 19:39 (thirteen years ago) link

breathing deep, relaxing.

tylerw, Thursday, 14 October 2010 19:39 (thirteen years ago) link

not pissed, just mystified.

plus yeah, if you don't worship the MC5/stooges/love/etc., then the odds that you're gonna freak out about the death record are pretty slim.

miss danilelle steven and her clitoral stimulator, away! (contenderizer), Thursday, 14 October 2010 19:40 (thirteen years ago) link

relax guys, he just dropped in to opine on some music in a style he doesn't like that he thinks you're being manipulated by the media into liking, no biggie

vehemence is mine (Edward III), Thursday, 14 October 2010 19:41 (thirteen years ago) link

The riffing at the end of the song Politicians in My Eyes is absolutely killer.

Zeppelin to Howlin Wolf: "Suck It" (Bill Magill), Thursday, 14 October 2010 20:08 (thirteen years ago) link

let's not get our panties in a bunch, Edward.

Lazarus Niles-Burnham (res), Thursday, 14 October 2010 20:10 (thirteen years ago) link

also, i never mentioned media manipulation. I suggested a cultural proclivity-- the same one that suddenly turned the lowest brow food in the world, bacon, into some shit that people go around bragging about.

Lazarus Niles-Burnham (res), Thursday, 14 October 2010 20:11 (thirteen years ago) link

no, it's cool, I like to engage in irritating behavior and then respond with condescension when ppl get irritated, too

vehemence is mine (Edward III), Thursday, 14 October 2010 20:19 (thirteen years ago) link

yes, it totally sucks when people all get together in a conspiracy of liking things

miss danilelle steven and her clitoral stimulator, away! (contenderizer), Thursday, 14 October 2010 20:19 (thirteen years ago) link

FUCK BACON U FOOLS

vehemence is mine (Edward III), Thursday, 14 October 2010 20:20 (thirteen years ago) link

i remember when i was tricked into liking bacon. never again.

tylerw, Thursday, 14 October 2010 20:31 (thirteen years ago) link

I'm also not really a fan of most of the food that people are using as reference points to describe bacon, so I guess it doesn't surprise me that I wouldn't choose to eat this (at least based on that little bit of gristle I ate off the floor).

― Lazarus Niles-Burnham (res)

EZ Snappin, Thursday, 14 October 2010 20:32 (thirteen years ago) link

bacon be not proud

S Beez Wit the Remedy (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 14 October 2010 20:37 (thirteen years ago) link

o bacon where is thy sting

tylerw, Thursday, 14 October 2010 20:41 (thirteen years ago) link

"what if bruce springsteen had been chinese?"

It is true that I haven't seen much love for Cui Jian "the bruce springsteen of china" on this board:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/e/e8/CuiJian_blindfold.JPG/220px-CuiJian_blindfold.JPG

Philip Nunez, Thursday, 14 October 2010 21:00 (thirteen years ago) link

thread delivers

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 14 October 2010 21:01 (thirteen years ago) link

this guy was supposed to be the bruce springsteen of the soviet union

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdWEWXTbL9M

i wonder if there is bruce springsteen of every country???

S Beez Wit the Remedy (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 14 October 2010 21:23 (thirteen years ago) link

Canada has Bryan Adams.

EZ Snappin, Thursday, 14 October 2010 21:24 (thirteen years ago) link

I would have voted for J. Bieber

Zeppelin to Howlin Wolf: "Suck It" (Bill Magill), Thursday, 14 October 2010 21:24 (thirteen years ago) link

every country gets the bruce springsteen it deserves

tylerw, Thursday, 14 October 2010 21:25 (thirteen years ago) link

actual lolz

miss danilelle steven and her clitoral stimulator, away! (contenderizer), Thursday, 14 October 2010 21:30 (thirteen years ago) link

the usa gets the real brooce because we're the bessssst

tylerw, Thursday, 14 October 2010 21:32 (thirteen years ago) link

Ruben Blades was the bruce springsteen of panama

S Beez Wit the Remedy (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 14 October 2010 21:53 (thirteen years ago) link

every country gets the bruce springsteen it deserves

lol

the only truffuluther on ilx (gbx), Thursday, 14 October 2010 22:21 (thirteen years ago) link

Even East Germany:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dean_Reed

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 14 October 2010 22:25 (thirteen years ago) link

Iacocca, whose self-titled 1983 autobiography promoted a vision of the business executive as folk hero, had been called "the Bruce Springsteen of business" by Rolling Stone...

miss danilelle steven and her clitoral stimulator, away! (contenderizer), Thursday, 14 October 2010 22:38 (thirteen years ago) link

WrestlingKidHasMarkParent: well... who can you think of that really tells it like it is in regard to your life experience? Who is the Bruce Springsteen of the black community?
CantLiftASingleton: we have lil wayne
WrestlingKidHasMarkParent: does he sing a lot about getting out of small towns no matter what his father says?
CantLiftASingleton: he sing about makin girls lick on his thang like its a lollipop
CantLiftASingleton: i think that speak to the heart of all kines a folks
WrestlingKidHasMarkParent: huh.

miss danilelle steven and her clitoral stimulator, away! (contenderizer), Thursday, 14 October 2010 22:41 (thirteen years ago) link

On our way back, we stopped by Vicente Fernandez (& family)’s house/ranch/arena/farm outside of Guadalajara. Fortunately, we were able to hire a tour guide to take us to and from Tequila. Coincidentally, his name was also Vicente and he knew everything there was to the area and its inhabitants. Therefore, I learned a lot more than I really wanted to about Vicente Fernandez and his family. If you don’t know who Vicente Fernandez is, take a step into this country and dare to ask any native who he is. He’s kinda like the Bruce Springsteen of Mexico.

S Beez Wit the Remedy (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 14 October 2010 22:43 (thirteen years ago) link

http://yle.fi/emmagaala/2007/ci/artistit/J.Karjalainen.jpg

Jukka Karjalainen, whom Savolainen described as "the Bruce Springsteen of Finland"

miss danilelle steven and her clitoral stimulator, away! (contenderizer), Thursday, 14 October 2010 22:44 (thirteen years ago) link

http://www.sabra.net/theisraelhour/david_pic.jpg

Critics have labeled Broza as a post-modern Leonard Cohen, the Bruce Springsteen of Israel

miss danilelle steven and her clitoral stimulator, away! (contenderizer), Thursday, 14 October 2010 22:45 (thirteen years ago) link

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nagabuchi_Tsuyoshi -- bruce springsteen of japan

tylerw, Thursday, 14 October 2010 22:46 (thirteen years ago) link

this is one of the best thread derails ever

sleeve, Thursday, 14 October 2010 22:48 (thirteen years ago) link

wrt Das Boot:

In the commentary track Petersen takes great care to note the many additional scenes included on the DVD, especially those that portray the boredom of living on a submarine and the rugged life of 48 men sharing a single bathroom. Sprinkled into the informative commentary are little gems of trivia: "Das Boot's" submarine model did double duty for Steven Spielberg's "Raiders of the Lost Ark"; Grönemeyer, the war correspondent, went on to become the Bruce Springsteen of Germany.

S Beez Wit the Remedy (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 14 October 2010 22:56 (thirteen years ago) link

are you serious, the submarine in das boot is the same as the one in raiders?! this changes everything.

tylerw, Thursday, 14 October 2010 22:58 (thirteen years ago) link

Every WWII movie gets the submarine it deserves.

EZ Snappin, Thursday, 14 October 2010 23:01 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah the submarine details were talked about in the Raiders DVD documentary. And Gronmeyer eventually ended up causing the legit rerelease of the Neu! albums so, you know, hero. Literally.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 14 October 2010 23:03 (thirteen years ago) link

A piping-hot platter of floured-and-fried chicken is the Bruce Springsteen of foods.

miss danilelle steven and her clitoral stimulator, away! (contenderizer), Thursday, 14 October 2010 23:05 (thirteen years ago) link


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