the quietus : the new look

Oh right. Sorry to hear that. If it's any consolation it'll be amongst my last. Although I'd suggest, if you know you don't like my writing, as most of you seemed to have known for a while, can't imagine why you'd put yourself through it. I'd just avoid it if I were you. There is lots of writing out there about hip-hop that I'm sure chimes more with your own thoughts. Why not read that instead? Oh, and I genuinely don't think my badu piece is a 'pile of elephant crap' but cheers, that made me chuckle.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jajvv1j4MR4

well if it's any consolation i don't think any of us read the quietus very often, but this type of piece is clearly a lightning rod type of thing

To be fair, your prose is even more disagreeable than your opinions.

Heh heh. Thanks Rev.

Loving this in the comments under the article btw:
"not even infuriating, more just hilarious to know there is someone who is as much of a pathetic dipshit as you in this world".

The possible-titles for the book just keep coming thick'n'fast. Keep 'em comin!

"this book is a piece of shit"

Mebbe not a title there Max but can I quote you on the back?

lol max

no you may not

this is all too real

awww, yr mean.

am I paranoid if I note that latebloomer is awake and posting

Jesus people

kulkarni's the greatest writer in music journalism today, imho

― The Boondog Taints II: All Taints Day (stevie), Monday, October 25, 2010 5:59 PM (5 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

― j. sargent & lil k3v (deej), Tuesday, 26 October 2010 05:58 (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

oh hey i'll repost it again too.

and when i say "today" i also mean "the last fifteen years" but whatevs. i mea you guys think dom can write, so 0_0.

i love the idea of some british dude dumbing out to j. cole

― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 26 October 2010 05:10 (3 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Don't beat us all with the same stick ;_;

sorry, you know i have <3

am I paranoid if I note that latebloomer is awake and posting

Neil's been on here since like 2001 iirc (albeit rarely)

really? neil give me a stint at the quietus. i can write about rap music without sounding foolish and be english.

Why do you think I have any say as to who writes for the Quietus?! I'm sure you can write about rap music without sounding foolish, Holy Ruler. Well done. Have you any examples of your work I could read?

But just wondering though - how come no-one's slagging off my UK choices? Is it
a) because you couldn't stomach reading that far?
Or
b) because you don't listen to UK rap because even though you all claim to be hip-hop fans you actually think the culture stops as soon as you step beyond the US? In which case why would I give a shit what you clowns think? I've listened to alot of US hip-hop this year, just like I have every year for the past 3 decades. I honestly wrote about what scraps have spun my propellor this year from, yes, the vantage point of being thousands of miles away from where this music originates. I am not as cool as you folk, and I responded not to what would get me the most thumbs-up from US hip-hop fans (genuinely could not give less of a shit) but what I enjoyed listening to this year. I don't see any of you lazy fucks talking about any rap beyond yr borders so your embarassment at my choices in US rap (and some of the atrocious bumf I see you boosting) is really just more grist to my mill m'afraid.Although I'm sure all o'y'all realise that if I wasn't pissing you goons off I'd consider myself failing in my work. And if you just want marks out of ten and writers who agree with your own taste you're a tad foolish reading me at all.

Oh, and I would suggest that if you couldn't figure what my Badu piece was 'about' you're thick as shit, but suspect that's something of a badge of pride for many of you.

i didn't bother past an asher roth recommendation and no mention of anything other than american hiphop but hey... let me skip past that. (you are a very angry writer aren't you). tbf that kyza record was kinda dope and i haven't heard the new klash or kashmere but zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz. ukhh has been kinda dragging its heels since the turn of the century, bar the odd classic. does that make me racist, oh so angry one?

i'm honored to be addressed as a goon, for one

Oh, and I would suggest that if you couldn't figure what my Badu piece was 'about' you're thick as shit, but suspect that's something of a badge of pride for many of you.

He got what it was about but the prose was so strained and nonsensical that you didn't deliver on anything you actually wanted to say?

otoh, rah digga has a new tape? should i be excited? harriet thugman is like the most underrated rap record ever.

tbh you guys do seem to prefer pedestrian yet uh 'thoughtful' prose. neily k ain't about that.

dirty harriet* /confusing the title w/ a song on the record

In the UK, where rap pays NOBODY'S wages, where most of its protagonists are dads and mums and daughters and sons and workers who have to squeeze their art AROUND their need to eat and live the continued marginalisation of rap voices in UK pop grates and galls harder than it has done my whole life.

since when was poverty and having to work hard a sign of being worthy of caring? This is your first paragraph and you don't care enough about the records to say ppl should listen because shit is good but instead because rappers are related to ppl? And why the Sun style RANDOM CAPS LOCK in your article?

You say race is the big issue of records not being big and then mention a list of only black artists to have success to prove that other black artists are being ignored?

this digga is kinda dope btw.

the funny thing about these claims of "expand your borders" is that you're writing about a highly specific & homogenized style of US rap -- you're not exactly the mark twain of this shit

like maybe people just prefer that electro lite sound of tinchy? is that so bad? ukhh has never got past the american ape-ing backpacker sound and while that may suit some (klash, mystro, durrty goodz, stig and that nottingham scene can produce some decent tunes) - the reason no-one cares anymore is that its never moved on. which is the same reason no-one gives a shit about joel ortiz. we already own dope mid90s ny records, why do we need a re-hash?

lol yeah where is the alabama dudes or hyphy oakland shit or weird internet shit like ofwgkta or jerk or

"i don't get gucci - american hiphop sucks now".

"I can write about hip-hop without sounding foolish"

"like maybe people just prefer that electro lite sound of tinchy? is that so bad?"

-yr so right holy. The music press loves that kind of scintillating insight at the moment. Get yr portfolio out there son!

Ha I'm quite obv not a music journo. But srs your "u r racist if you like these black ppl better than these other black ppl" is even better.

And again I don't see what is rong w/ the masses listening to shit on the radio. I thought we got over this 'i am so better than you cos i can spend my time obsessing over shit you've never heard of p.s. if they ever do get big i'll start to hate them and you for listening to them [via earlier proof of yr opinions about drake]

or why is it so hard to have an opinion without being a dick to those with different opinions/tastes?

we dont much care for it

― j. sargent & lil k3v (deej), Monday, October 25, 2010 10:48 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

have no horse in this race sickeningly brutal gangland-style horse execution, but lol anyway

"And again I don't see what is rong w/ the masses listening to shit on the radio".

Seriously - get yr portfolio out there son! You most definitely are a music journalist!

"sickeningly brutal gangland-style horse execution". What?

Neil, it's not worth the hassle.

I know but I'm bored.

leave it neil, it's chinatown.

Ha. My line was from Robert Towne's rejected first draft.

hey, me too

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8QUzr94sYA

i love the idea of some british dude dumbing out to j. cole

― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 26 October 2010 05:10 (6 hours ago) Bookmark

wait is this actually the dude who wrote the article or a sock

^ of all people to not recognise a long-posting music journalist on ILX

search function says he's barely posted since 2008 and since then has mostly talked about his own articles, so I can't say I've seen any of his posts before fifteen minutes ago

I also don't read The Quietus