I really like the title track, best thing on Night Slugs so far by a considerable margin. I'd hardly describe it as "opulent" though, those synth noises sound like the producer's going out of their way make them to sound cheap and nasty.
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 26 October 2010 17:04 (thirteen years ago) link
wow the wut wut wut track is one of the best songs i've heard all year lex, just beautiful!
kind of interesting take on modern hip hop production...
the other two songs are good, but for some reason they seem like tracks that are waiting for some one to come record rap vocals over...
but they are good...
whats' the story with this band? uk? new? do they have an album?
― S Beez Wit the Remedy (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 26 October 2010 17:29 (thirteen years ago) link
actually the more i'm getting into it, the third one is really great too, the second seems the weakest to me...
but the "wut wut wut" high sample thing on the first song is one of those little bits of magic that is hard to match.
― S Beez Wit the Remedy (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 26 October 2010 17:31 (thirteen years ago) link
This is probably an artifact of my headphones but it sounds like most of the low end of "Wut" is missing, making this kind of a trebly, tremulous mess.
― O'Donnell and the Brain (HI DERE), Tuesday, 26 October 2010 17:33 (thirteen years ago) link
Also, thanks to years of listening to UK hardcore/jungle/dnb, all of these songs sound half tempo and sluggish to me.
"Every Time" is kind of great though, just to contradict what I just wrote.
― O'Donnell and the Brain (HI DERE), Tuesday, 26 October 2010 17:35 (thirteen years ago) link
― O'Donnell and the Brain (HI DERE), Tuesday, October 26, 2010 12:33 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
yeah sounds quality is ass and i have nice headphones
tempos are pretty low...doesn't really seem like something you could dance to really, more listening music...
is this chillwave? idk what that really is
― S Beez Wit the Remedy (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 26 October 2010 17:38 (thirteen years ago) link
Yeah it's REALLY trebly, which is why I'm surprised at it being Lex's single of the year, for all his railing against treble in pop music. It's quite bassy as well though, just not much in between.
It's all about the cut-up vocals for me. The other two would be greatly improved by having someone shout "Pow pow pow pow Wacka Flocka Flame!" over the top.
If anything it's come out of dubstep, which explains the tempo and general sluggishness, but it's been big on dancefloors this year. Albeit the sort of dancefloor I tend to avoid.
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 26 October 2010 17:39 (thirteen years ago) link
maybe it would be good for line dancing, doing the achy breaky and slap leather etc
― S Beez Wit the Remedy (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 26 October 2010 17:41 (thirteen years ago) link
it seems like it would be good "slowly staggering through an opiate haze" music
― O'Donnell and the Brain (HI DERE), Tuesday, 26 October 2010 17:42 (thirteen years ago) link
What about your years of listening to hip-hop though?
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 26 October 2010 17:44 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah it just sounds like a kinda goofy take on like diplomats type stuff
― S Beez Wit the Remedy (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 26 October 2010 17:45 (thirteen years ago) link
This is a good bit slower than like... 95% of the hip-hop I listen to!
― O'Donnell and the Brain (HI DERE), Tuesday, 26 October 2010 17:45 (thirteen years ago) link
I mean, just for tempo comparison:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1Et1siZhTk&feature=fvwhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KI-FTdtg1k8https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b4gQP5r4IyUhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1D41cNCFsA
etc
― O'Donnell and the Brain (HI DERE), Tuesday, 26 October 2010 17:49 (thirteen years ago) link
eh, i think it's pushing it call it any sort of flagship nightslugs release, it's good but there's easily other comparable releases.
re: the trebl-y-ness - have any of you heard this live on a good pa? the bass is killer.
― fauxmarc, Tuesday, 26 October 2010 17:50 (thirteen years ago) link
It's trebly AND bassy, the version I have sounds pretty big on headphones.
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 26 October 2010 17:53 (thirteen years ago) link
"wut" is pretty sick
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 26 October 2010 17:54 (thirteen years ago) link
the first time i heard 'wut' i felt like it had always been there. instant classic!
― ¸¸.·´¯´·he'd sail across the bubbling waves·.¸¸.·´¯ (another al3x), Tuesday, 26 October 2010 17:54 (thirteen years ago) link
there is definitely some clubworthy bass in there on "wut"--whoever said it's the midrange that is gone was otm.
this is kind of cool but yeah it's hard to know what to "do" with it--tempo-wise and given the spaced-out vibe it kind of reminds me of that g-side record w/out the rapping and nasa samples.
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 26 October 2010 18:12 (thirteen years ago) link
ok on the second song the combination of grandiosity + chintzy production is grating
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 26 October 2010 18:16 (thirteen years ago) link
this is way closer to hip-hop chillwave than lex will ever admit
what to do with it - BOUNCE people
― fauxmarc, Tuesday, 26 October 2010 18:16 (thirteen years ago) link
the bass on this is huge! but there's no b-line, it's just a kick
― goole, Tuesday, 26 October 2010 18:18 (thirteen years ago) link
"this" = "wut"
There is totally a bassline, although it probably doesn't carry through to a Youtube embed.
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 26 October 2010 18:24 (thirteen years ago) link
but i hear other low end? weird
― goole, Tuesday, 26 October 2010 18:29 (thirteen years ago) link
i think the lack of bass is probably due to youtube quality...
its function in dancefloor sets is pretty amazing - it really disrupts most of them, just because the sound palette is just so full-on compared to everything surrounding it, but that's not really a bad thing. i'd never say these were bangers as such - they just sound incredible on club speakers that magnify their largeness. people don't so much get down to them as raise their hands up.
those synth noises sound like the producer's going out of their way make them to sound cheap and nasty.
i don't get this in the slightest - yeah it's trebly but it feels so clean, and there are so many ingredients (plus a ton of echo) that all three tracks have this incredibly majestic feel for me - these really overwhelming waves of sound that sound particularly amazing on club speakers. i love how detailed they are - that twinkling motif on "wut", the synth melody coming in towards the end of "every time", the whistle mid-"showstoppa". a lot of the higher-end melodies owe quite a bit to the more abstract grime productions of the mid-00s, and there's a huge juke influence in the beats (esp "showstoppa").
it's prob my favourite night slugs release so far - certainly the most distinct (and the most demanded - they weren't going to release this so soon after "irl" (girl unit's debut)) but it built up such momentum that they had to. kingdom's that mystic ep and velour's the velvet collection ep are prob my other two favourite NS releases - they're so different too, properly banging, dark techno and gorgeous, melodic woozy funk (one for dâm-funk fans, i think) respectively. jam city's "arpjam" should be huge when it's released too.
one guy, often hilariously assumed to be an all-female group. this is his second single - the first, "irl", is ok, pretty different though. he's done an incredible remix of c.r.s.t.'s "the bells", not on youtube but it definitely has the large, ecstatic walls of synths that these do.
― lex lex lex lex lex on the track BOW (lex pretend), Tuesday, 26 October 2010 18:40 (thirteen years ago) link
i still don't know what chillwave is, specifically! is it the same as witch house? i like some of that.
― lex lex lex lex lex on the track BOW (lex pretend), Tuesday, 26 October 2010 18:41 (thirteen years ago) link
I think Matt is saying that the actual synth sounds used are tightly associated with grimier music. Certainly when I was listening to this I got a sense of musical density but nothing came close to coming across as "majestic", rather more like this is the sound of rave kids fucking in slow motion.
― O'Donnell and the Brain (HI DERE), Tuesday, 26 October 2010 18:43 (thirteen years ago) link
"showstoppa" is prob the most majestic of the three for me? i always think of a red carpet rolling out in space.
girl unit's also done two u&k mixes this year which probably help "explain" where his own aesthetic comes from -
http://palmsout.net/2010/girl-unit-mix-2010/http://www.xlr8r.com/podcast/2010/08/girl-unit
― lex lex lex lex lex on the track BOW (lex pretend), Tuesday, 26 October 2010 18:49 (thirteen years ago) link
i think i could see where yr. coming from re: "majestic" if i heard this in better quality. otoh every sound seems like it's probably in the roland mc-505 that i never figured out how to use.
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 26 October 2010 18:51 (thirteen years ago) link
like basically it's hard for me to get "majestic" out of a track that sounds like Skin Up played at half tempo
― O'Donnell and the Brain (HI DERE), Tuesday, 26 October 2010 18:52 (thirteen years ago) link
Yeah it's not intending to sound rich and deep and opulent because the actual synth sounds used are essentially the same kind of fake chiptune noises you hear on the Ikonika album, it's harking back to a particular 90s nostalgic way of sounding shimmery, and the cheapness of the sound is part and parcel of that. You compare it to the sounds on, say, the We Love album and one obviously sounds like they've gone to the trouble of making it sound rich and full and textured and the other hasn't, and probably isn't interested in doing so. It sounds preset-y basically.
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 26 October 2010 19:22 (thirteen years ago) link
a lot of the higher-end melodies owe quite a bit to the more abstract grime productions of the mid-00s
Exactly! Grime wasn't meant to sound opulent, it was meant to sound like cheap dirty beat-em-up music.
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 26 October 2010 19:26 (thirteen years ago) link
This thread title makes me want to bump "Superthug" at high volume.
― The Reverend, Tuesday, 26 October 2010 19:41 (thirteen years ago) link
just for comparison's sake, this is the Skin Up track this stuff reminded me of:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_G16ge4FYY
― The majestic sounds of Skin Up (HI DERE), Tuesday, 26 October 2010 21:27 (thirteen years ago) link
i like this!
― i feed these skreets (tpp), Thursday, 28 October 2010 15:02 (thirteen years ago) link
nice post on this at passion of the weiss
http://passionweiss.com/2010/10/28/sach-o-girl-unit-%E2%80%93-wut/
― prolego, Thursday, 28 October 2010 20:38 (thirteen years ago) link
man this song is addictive
― catalina whiney ilxor (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 28 October 2010 22:57 (thirteen years ago) link
WUT WUT WUT bay bay be bay be bay be bay be baybebaybe
― underrated joe perry project albums i have sold (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 28 October 2010 23:02 (thirteen years ago) link
yessssss
― lex lex lex lex lex on the track BOW (lex pretend), Thursday, 28 October 2010 23:08 (thirteen years ago) link
i feel like this should be a beat for a rapper that doesn't currently exist. we need to invent a rapper.
― underrated joe perry project albums i have sold (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 28 October 2010 23:23 (thirteen years ago) link
also it's awesome and hilarious to me that there is a gravediggaz youtube in this thread
― underrated joe perry project albums i have sold (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 28 October 2010 23:27 (thirteen years ago) link
WUT WUT WUT
This is nice isn't it? Kind of a midpoint between Joker, Sinden and Jackie Chain. I dig.
― village idiot (dog latin), Friday, 29 October 2010 10:54 (thirteen years ago) link
it's awesome and hilarious that Skin Up is on this thread :-D
― village idiot (dog latin), Friday, 29 October 2010 10:55 (thirteen years ago) link
find it strange that people "don't know what to do" with this ina post dubstep'n'crunk'n'Salem world.
― village idiot (dog latin), Friday, 29 October 2010 10:58 (thirteen years ago) link
shit dude, post-salem world already?
― bear, bear, bear, Friday, 29 October 2010 11:00 (thirteen years ago) link
We can but hope.
― Matt DC, Friday, 29 October 2010 11:05 (thirteen years ago) link
this 'wut' track has been my jam for a few days now btw.. thx lex
― bear, bear, bear, Friday, 29 October 2010 11:21 (thirteen years ago) link
works better in a mix. hearing it as a single lessen the true potential of it. just IMO.
― dan138zig (Durrr Durrr Durrrrrr), Friday, 29 October 2010 12:44 (thirteen years ago) link
i like this new jam city a lot
― the late great, Monday, 23 March 2015 02:15 (nine years ago) link
same, pretty groovy
― J0rdan S., Monday, 23 March 2015 02:28 (nine years ago) link
very wavey
― the late great, Monday, 23 March 2015 03:34 (nine years ago) link
I really disliked this on first listen.
― Matt DC, Monday, 23 March 2015 14:59 (nine years ago) link
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
― the late great, Monday, 23 March 2015 18:40 (nine years ago) link
can't please everybody, i guess
This sounded amazing walking through my town centre at 6am this morning while everything was quiet and serene.
― boxedjoy, Monday, 23 March 2015 20:09 (nine years ago) link
one listen in, liking it a lot. possibly fucking miiiiiles off here, but there's kind of a late 80s boyband as produced by andy stott vibe, also a murkified beachy thing happening too.
― cgi bubka (NickB), Monday, 23 March 2015 22:25 (nine years ago) link
It just reminded me of any number of sadsack laptop dudes who can't really sing. I really hate that big aluminium synth all over this as well.
― Matt DC, Monday, 23 March 2015 22:30 (nine years ago) link
People I know were comparing it to Disco Inferno which just made the disappointment more acute, feels like he's just gone from one pole of lameness to another.
― Matt DC, Monday, 23 March 2015 22:31 (nine years ago) link
also a murkified beachy thing happening too.
yeah made me think of strategy
― J0rdan S., Monday, 23 March 2015 22:34 (nine years ago) link
xp how rockist of you, matt dc
― the late great, Monday, 23 March 2015 22:35 (nine years ago) link
I can hear the DI thing actually, slight shades of 'The Last Dance' with that guitar.
― cgi bubka (NickB), Monday, 23 March 2015 22:37 (nine years ago) link
I can totally see the sadsack laptop dudes thing but even despite that I still think this is really great. The two things it really reminds me of are last year's Dean Blunt and Maria Minerva albums (which were my two favourites of 2014). NickB's description is spot-on.
― boxedjoy, Monday, 23 March 2015 22:41 (nine years ago) link
the lyrics give this an emotional heft beyond the usual sadsack laptop dude thing
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 24 March 2015 11:45 (nine years ago) link
i have never heard of disco inferno tho
wtf are you even a real ilx poster
― Tim F, Tuesday, 24 March 2015 11:49 (nine years ago) link
jokes - but that's just too good.
not that i expect you to like disco inferno!
― Tim F, Tuesday, 24 March 2015 11:50 (nine years ago) link
there are loads of 80s indieish bands i've always seen old-skool ilx reference (scritti politti, blue nile too). never heard any of them apart from one scritti politti song
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 24 March 2015 11:55 (nine years ago) link
The Blue Nile aren't indieish.
Disco Inferno are indieish though and you will probably hate those aspects of them.
This shit (Jam City) sounds good on random soundcloud listen but I'd need to sit with it a lot more to know for certain (and who sits these days).
― Tim F, Tuesday, 24 March 2015 11:58 (nine years ago) link
Here is classic DI if you want to test that proposition though:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-BFNX78vZE8
― Tim F, Tuesday, 24 March 2015 12:02 (nine years ago) link
This sounds like something you'd play at an indie ren faire I'm into it
― 龜, Tuesday, 24 March 2015 12:15 (nine years ago) link
lex doesn't know "cupid & psyche 85" WTF
― the late great, Tuesday, 24 March 2015 21:12 (nine years ago) link
how is that surprising
― swae lee is the sremmurd for rae dad (crüt), Tuesday, 24 March 2015 21:15 (nine years ago) link
this is not night slugs but i couldn't figure out where else to put it up
http://soundcloud.com/a-k-paul/landcruisin
― the late great, Friday, 25 March 2016 14:53 (eight years ago) link
searching "jai paul" in posts gives some funny results. point/counterpoint starring lex & rev.
this is very prince-y.
― sam jax sax jam (Jordan), Friday, 25 March 2016 16:21 (eight years ago) link
yes
― the late great, Friday, 25 March 2016 16:44 (eight years ago) link
lol I hate Jai Paul, I was just trolling lex
― Hey (Extended Mix), Saturday, 26 March 2016 05:45 (eight years ago) link
what's there to hate?
― the late great, Saturday, 26 March 2016 06:34 (eight years ago) link
everything pretty much
― cher guevara (lex pretend), Saturday, 26 March 2016 11:07 (eight years ago) link
He must be friends with virtually everyone in the media and the music industry. It's the only reason to think of for such continuing interest and anticipation around a dude with such a shoddy and minimal output. It's, what, five years since he was first hyped and you still read "Jai Paul might finally release his debut album this year!" articles on sites that should know better.
By this point they might as well be repping for Joe Lean and the Jing Jang Jong.
― Matt DC, Saturday, 26 March 2016 11:23 (eight years ago) link
Oh wait, this is his brother. Might give this a listen on the offchance he's the talented one in the family.
― Matt DC, Saturday, 26 March 2016 11:25 (eight years ago) link
sick burns everyone *golf clap*
― the late great, Sunday, 27 March 2016 01:26 (eight years ago) link
new comp sounding pretty okay
https://www.residentadvisor.net/feed/97057
― the late great, Thursday, 24 November 2016 06:28 (seven years ago) link
https://jam-city.bandcamp.com/album/pillowland
new jam city album
― ufo, Saturday, 14 November 2020 21:00 (three years ago) link
It's more like current AG Cook than his old stuff and found it mostly pretty annoying as a result.
― nashwan, Saturday, 14 November 2020 21:04 (three years ago) link
Is Night Slugs defunct?
also new Jam City (on Earthly / Mad Decent tho) https://ra.co/news/78713
― official representative of Roku's Basketshit in at least one alternate u (lukas), Thursday, 23 March 2023 00:47 (one year ago) link
the track I've heard from the new Jam City album is purposely I think kind of corny but it still sounds really good to me
― Dan S, Thursday, 23 March 2023 01:28 (one year ago) link
I think Night Slugs is just swinging back into gear for their 15th anniversary. Not sure if they're gonna do new releases or just parties and reissues.
― change display name (Jordan), Thursday, 23 March 2023 03:42 (one year ago) link
Voila, new Night Slugs
https://music.zaida-zane.com/album/boy-eyes
― change display name (Jordan), Friday, 24 March 2023 20:30 (one year ago) link
lol/sick/you're welcome
― official representative of Roku's Basketshit in at least one alternate u (lukas), Friday, 24 March 2023 20:32 (one year ago) link
new Jam City is in my top 20 albums of the year for sure— ridiculously good
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Thursday, 20 July 2023 15:54 (ten months ago) link
i’ve been getting back into night slugs, they had a lot of good records!
i recently got a copy of “the courts” 12” single w/ the main attraktionz + jam city feature on the other side, and that song sounds, if anything, even better now
i’m still more into the nswl white labels and club constructions in general but here’s my current pox
ns009 jam city “magic drops”ns010 bok bok “southside”ns017 girl unit “hysterics” (credited as hysterics)nscc001 l-vis 1990 “club constructions vol. 1”nscc003 kw griff “bring in the katz”nscc006 jam city “club constructions vol. 6”nswl004 jam city refixes (let me bang, endgames)nswl007 pearson sound edits (deep inside, rod lee)nswl010 helix + flirta d “no hook no bs”nswl011 jam city “the courts / the nite life”
― the late great, Thursday, 20 July 2023 17:37 (ten months ago) link
i mean “the courts” sounds better. probably helps that there’s a lot more “experimental club” compatible techno out there (on labels like timedance, livity, hessle, etc) … the cloud rap track sounds worse, still good but i can understand why it didn’t really get released
one that passed under my radar but i thought was interesting is “p jam” from the white label series, sorta jungle and sorta grime remixes of nightwriters “let the music you” … the grime version is unsurprisingly a lot more credible
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8NRIGg5-dhA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HcZr8qQWqQo
but wtf jam city for finally releasing “final joust” free on twitter as a wav but not pressing any copies
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wR2lKUvN_BI
― the late great, Thursday, 20 July 2023 17:45 (ten months ago) link
"Ecstacy Refix" >>>>>
― boxedjoy, Thursday, 20 July 2023 22:10 (ten months ago) link
yeah that’s the endgames one. i have to say i was probably more impressed w/ the original (when i finally looked it up) but he did a good job with it
― the late great, Thursday, 20 July 2023 22:51 (ten months ago) link
apparently it’s called the “centurion mix” in some places and the “1983 12” mix” in others
― the late great, Thursday, 20 July 2023 22:54 (ten months ago) link