the quietus : the new look

& who is 'hiding behind' the swag cru -- i have beef w/ those dudes abt stuff all day
sorry u feel excluded forks. maybe u should bring something to the table that doesnt involve novelty youtubes

i need to go out an jog but i've just been refreshing this thread instead

yeah basically my conclusion has been to stay on the porch because the big dogs seem like a buncha fuckin assholes, is what I'm saying

if that's an awesome look for you in trying to talk about music...cool, get yours, w/e

What pelican of magnets and aluminium bashed open their phones and ate up their brains and imagination?

Miracles! Solitude! Filth! Face paint! Ashcans and unobtainable dollars! Juggaloes screaming under the fukkin rainbows! Boys sobbing in bizzars! Old scientists weeping in the piss!

Miracles! Magic! Nightmare of Miracles! Miracles the loveless! Mental Miracles! Miracles the heavy judger of juggalos!

Miracles the incomprehensible prison! Miracles the crossbone soulless jailhouse and Congress of sorrows! Magic whose butterflies are judgement! Magic the vast neden of war! Fukkin the stunned governments! Bang! Pow! Boom!

Miracles whose mind is pure machinery! Miracles whose blood is running magic! Miracles whose fingers are joker card armies! Miracles whose breast is some sweet fat titties! Miracles whose ear is a smoking tomb!

Miracles whose eyes are a thousand blind windows! Miracles whose skyscrapers stand in the long streets like endless Shangri-La! Miracles whose factories dream and choke in their face paint! Miracles whose smokestacks and magic crown the fukkin cities!

Juggalettes whose love is endless oil and stone! Miracles whose soul is electricity and wank jokes! Miracles whose poverty is the specter of our customer fan base! Miracles whose fate is a cloud of sexless hydrogen, until they come party at next year's Gathering! Miracles whose name is the Mind! Fuck you scientists!

Miracles in whom I sit lonely! Miracles in whom I dream fundy Christian angels! Crazy in Miracles! Cocksucker in Eminem's crew! Lacklove and manless in I dunno, whatever!

Miracles who entered my soul early! Miracles in whom I am a consciousness without a body! Miracles who frightened me out of my natural ecstasy! Miracles whom I abandon! Wake up in Magic! Light streaming out of the sky and shit!

Miracles! Miracles! Robot apartments! invisable suburbs! skeleton treasuries! blind capitals! demonic industries! spectral nations! invincible madhouses! granite cocks! monstrous bombs!

They broke their backs lifting Miracles to Heaven! Pavements, trees, radios, tons! lifting the city to Heaven which exists and is everywhere about us!

Visions! omens! hallucinations! neden! miracles! ecstacies! gone down the American river!

Dreams! adorations! illuminations! religions! the whole boatload of sensitive bullshit!

Breakthroughs! over the river! flips and crucifixions! gone down the flood! Highs! Epiphanies! Despairs! Join the band wagon wigga it's a juggalo party! Ten years' animal screams and suicides! Minds! New loves! Mad generation! down on the rocks of Time! I stab people!

Real holy laughter in the river! They saw it all! the wild eyes! the holy yells! They bade farewell! They jumped off the roof! to solitude! waving! carrying flowers! Down to the river! into the street!

― he might have even have gone in. (a hoy hoy), Monday, 12 April 2010 23:04 (6 months ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

haha jordan & i disagree about stuff all the time!! idk point is that we are not monolithic, but this article is monolithically dumb, mostly bcuz of the writing style, but also because the opinions try to damn whole swaths of awesome music & his aesthetic approach is arbitrary & generally lame

sorry u feel excluded forks. maybe u should bring something to the table that doesnt involve novelty youtubes

like this - idk if u know this, but to any person outside of yr own pathological relation to forks, you just come off like a fucking dick with whom nobody in his right mind would want to engage in discussion

yeah basically my conclusion has been to stay on the porch because the big dogs seem like a buncha fuckin assholes, is what I'm saying

if that's an awesome look for you in trying to talk about music...cool, get yours, w/e

― guess I'll just sing dream on again (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Tuesday, October 26, 2010 7:02 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

this is a pretty funny perspective considering it was basically everyone vs. me in that gza thread

it's just frustrating with you deej, cuz you really do seem to care about the music and you know a lot about it but you're constantly standoffish and insulting
i'm long past the point of being offended or butthurt, it's just tired and disappointing when i'm warming up to a talk about how gucci really does represent a corporate logo and all you got is "STFU signed everyone on this thread" and then 24 hrs later it's "i am sorry you see it that way"

and go for a jog whiney

haha jordan & i disagree about stuff all the time!! idk point is that we are not monolithic, but this article is monolithically dumb, mostly bcuz of the writing style, but also because the opinions try to damn whole swaths of awesome music & his aesthetic approach is arbitrary & generally lame

― j. sargent & lil k3v (deej), Tuesday, October 26, 2010 7:03 PM (1 second ago) Bookmark

^^

imo deej takes a great deal of pride in having turned himself into a standoffish and insulting person instead of the engaged & naive person he was when he got here who got cruelly clowned by a bunch of people

this is a pretty funny perspective considering it was basically everyone vs. me in that gza thread

in fairness tho you were like totally wrong there, people weren't disagreeing w/you to be dicks but because you were wrong

"that's exactly what foghat fans were like""

This calumny will not stand!

lol

So basically you won't read rap threads because of deej?

frankly dudes ilx has always been full of bitter & standoffish & insulting ppl -- the idea that this is some weird personality quirk of mine is kinda nuts

in fairness tho you were like totally wrong there, people weren't disagreeing w/you to be dicks but because you were wrong

― guess I'll just sing dream on again (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Tuesday, October 26, 2010 7:06 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

your hypocrisy / lack of self awareness here is stunning

well but in fairness it's always stunning to you when people don't see thing like you do amirite

morbius strip

rap fans are naturally defensive cause we had to live through the terrible time in college when that guy in the dorm heard u were into rap and was all "oh have u heard of ATMOSPHERE"

max btw have you heard atmosphere?

morbius strip

― j. sargent & lil k3v (deej), Wednesday, October 27, 2010 12:09 AM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

lol two words to prove exactly my point about how much pride you now take in being a cock instead of the nice dude you actually are

"assholes were uncool to me when I got here...I'll show them, by becoming a much bigger asshole"

be proud deej

kinda feel like i wasted the potential of that one tbh. would have made a good double entendre elsewhere

how am i 'being an asshole'

otoh that rah digga record really did turn out to be dope.

lol internet and eight layers of this means nothing to me and yeah yeah yeah but seriously if you're actively electing to be bitter and insulting and standoffish, is it some kind of role playing thing that I'm missing? Or they're personality flaws that you're electing to give free reign on a social forum because there's no irl repercussions? i don't get it.

never mind, you wouldn't cop to it anyway...just enjoy yr "status"

i mean i'm basically the same guy in person as i am on the internet for better or worse, but if I met someone in real life who was as actively aggressive, snarky and browbeaty as this i would be leavin the party

Or they're personality flaws that you're electing to give free reign on a social forum because there's no irl repercussions? i don't get it.

new otm whole-of-the-internet description here.

I mean -- if you can actually with a straight face deny that you've traded in your naturally engaged, enthusiastic, wide-eyed music lover personality for a cynical, sniping, dozens-playing ilx persona, then there won't be any point in me trying to point it out to you

jesus christ you guys enough

I lol'd

im not really sure who's being the asshole here, for real
but i think its u guys

like, i cant talk shit about wack music journalism now?

without having to defend my entire ilx persona??

''''aerosmith'''' i get along fine on ilx !! with a good number of ilx posters.

http://www.ilxor.com/ILX/ThreadSelectedControllerServlet?boardid=77&threadid=83781#unread
can we take it here?

frankly dudes ilx has always been full of bitter & standoffish & insulting ppl -- the idea that this is some weird personality quirk of mine is kinda nuts

― j. sargent & lil k3v (deej), Tuesday, October 26, 2010 8:08 PM (12 minutes ago)

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

so if u are asking -- yes i enjoy talking shit -- no im not stopping -- if yr taking it personal when its not -- i.e. accusing your logic of being a 'morbius strip' is not really a super-personal OUCH!!! my feelings!!! type diss. For you, or morbs. But i kinda think forks saying my posting suggests im letting my irl personality flaws have free reign is kind of way more meanspirited & shitty

but hey, i also thought that u know some rappers music dates better than others, and that one can be a knowledgeable music fan w/out knowing the catalog of shellac, & endless other weird-azz points that youve chosen to harp on lately in some attempt to ... i dont know??

eating poptarts, not being able to sleep for the third night in a row, watching wrestling shoots where punk vividly describes homocide nearly drunkenly pissed on his face on somoa joe's floor and reading one of my favourite songwriters get a bit aggro on the internet - this is heaven rite here.

xp i'm standing right here you know.

this article is monolithically dumb, mostly bcuz of the writing style

loath as i am to agree with anything deej says, that which is wrong with the shit linked here has almost nothing to do with "taste". i don't give a fuck whether or not some internet person likes asher roth or whatever. the crimes in question have nothing to do with taste. like, there may have been a time when "passionate poet spitting fire at the moribund mainstream" was a position that needed regular filling, but that time is long since past. you wanna do that shit as a critic, you better have something to say, and your words better be goddam GREAT, and you better know way more about your chosen passion than anyone else. otherwise, step the fuck off and get some perspective. K's shit is intolerable because it's egocentric, false and embarrassing, not because he happens to like the wrong things.

^ asshole retreats to cave for meditation time

rap criticism

i think i want something different from music writing than pretty much everyone on this recent devolution of the thread, and certainly all of ILM's rap goons. i love neil's stuff: it's dense, opinionated, funny, angry, sharp. i've loved it since he started writing at melody maker fifteen or so years ago, i've loved it whenever i've commissioned him to write for me at LLSS (only it hurts to edit any of it for space). i love the fact that very few of the sentences he's ever written would fit within the confines of a tweet. he's clued me in on some of the very best music i've heard. but i guess, ultimately, it's just a matter of taste.

You make him sound like r|t|c, who actually is a really good writer, who I wish I wish I could read other than ILM (or maybe he does and I just don't know). But there's a difference between 'dense' and 'opaque'.

*who I wish I could read other than on ILM

He is usually a better writer than this, in fairness.