nina gordon - "straight outta compton"

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I'm ready for the next episode now.

― martin m. (mushrush), Thursday, 20 January 2005 23:07 (nineteen years ago) link

Donut dares go where we dare not.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 20 January 2005 23:07 (nineteen years ago) link

He drank the water of life!

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 20 January 2005 23:14 (nineteen years ago) link

Thanks Mr. Christ.

So...she isn't even FROM Compton? >=o

― .ada.m. (nordicskilla), Thursday, 20 January 2005 23:19 (nineteen years ago) link

She should cover "Straight Outta Locash"

― martin m. (mushrush), Thursday, 20 January 2005 23:20 (nineteen years ago) link

As is "Crazy motherfucker named Gusto. I fucked your mom cause you know she is a big ho."

― martin m. (mushrush), Thursday, 20 January 2005 23:20 (nineteen years ago) link

STRAIGHT OUTTA UXBRIDGE

― .ada.m. (nordicskilla), Thursday, 20 January 2005 23:21 (nineteen years ago) link

Hearing this makes me feel that peculiar kind of embarassment that you feel for someone who is not embarassed themselves.

― Hurting (Hurting), Thursday, 20 January 2005 23:23 (nineteen years ago) link

So what would have been the reaction if Nellie McKay did this?

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 20 January 2005 23:24 (nineteen years ago) link

Or MIA?

― .ada.m. (nordicskilla), Thursday, 20 January 2005 23:25 (nineteen years ago) link

What movie is this from?

"Ballsy. Stupid, but ballsy."

― Hurting (Hurting), Thursday, 20 January 2005 23:25 (nineteen years ago) link

xxpost
I think the vocal would likely have been much more interesting. Also, she crazy.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 20 January 2005 23:26 (nineteen years ago) link

verifying that this song was indeed intended to be humorous only fills me with loathing. The ironic juxtaposition of indie white girl vs. gangsta rap is a really lame and tired comic crutch.

Use other crutches please.

― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 20 January 2005 23:27 (nineteen years ago) link

Seriously though, I don't think she really brings anything to the song. She sings with all-too-predictable vocal phrasing, puts a lackluster guitar part under it, and there's no sense of meaning the way she does it other then "look at the contrast between my voice and the lyrics."

― Hurting (Hurting), Thursday, 20 January 2005 23:28 (nineteen years ago) link

as for stephin merritt, i saw him cover "rapture" in new york. is a white gay man allowed to cover a song written by a white woman in tribute to a black musical form?

― Shmool McShmool (shmuel), Thursday, 20 January 2005 23:29 (nineteen years ago) link

only if he is British

― Curt1s St3ph3ns, Thursday, 20 January 2005 23:29 (nineteen years ago) link

My favorite comments from above:

"yowza. she drops the n-bomb! me likey anyway."

Whenever a tense race related thread ever erupts again on ILE, I'll just drop this little bomb in there and run away.

"dude calm down. freedom of speech works both ways you know. i don't use the n word and i don't like for anyone to use it, but i don't think this cover was done out of anything more than fun. i once covered nsync's "girlfriend" no political statement there..."

I think Martin already mentioned this one. No explanation needed really.

"wtf... the group was called niggas with attitude. get a grip. it's the name of the group. if ice cube didn't want white people to ever use the word, it wouldn't be in the name of his group. [...]"

haha, I love the assumption that people name their songs or groups certain things with the intention of hoping white people use the words later.

"if it wasnt for this song i wouldnt have been here now, You have an amazing talent nina"

OK, who's the person in this thread who went to the forum to confess their love? Mark? Spencer? Ned? Heavens, come on now, don't be shy! ;-)

― donut christ (donut), Thursday, 20 January 2005 23:32 (nineteen years ago) link

Actually, the mid 90s cover of "Gin and Juice" from one-time girly L.A. band Sissy Bar enrages me to Alex In NYC degrees.. far more than this does, for some reason.

― donut christ (donut), Thursday, 20 January 2005 23:33 (nineteen years ago) link

Mrs adam likes that Frente NO cover :(

― .ada.m. (nordicskilla), Thursday, 20 January 2005 23:35 (nineteen years ago) link

ice cube was just on da nickleodeon kidz show with all da kidz. he said he likes waking up early and circus performers!

― scott seward (scott seward), Thursday, 20 January 2005 23:36 (nineteen years ago) link

xpost I think there's a fine line to walk there. I've never heard that cover, and it may very well be terrible, but Snoop is obviously *supposed* to be funny. I doubt he takes himself very seriously, and neither do most of his audience, black or white. Straight Outta Compton on the other hand is inherently pretty serious. It's bravado, but it's also about being hardened by where they grew up.

― Hurting (Hurting), Thursday, 20 January 2005 23:37 (nineteen years ago) link

Mrs adam likes that Frente NO cover :(

The original just means too much to me!

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 20 January 2005 23:41 (nineteen years ago) link

I KNOW!

― .ada.m. (nordicskilla), Thursday, 20 January 2005 23:42 (nineteen years ago) link

What do you guys think of the Orgy cover of "Blue Monday"?

― donut christ (donut), Thursday, 20 January 2005 23:43 (nineteen years ago) link

We had the original played at our wedding, though.

― .ada.m. (nordicskilla), Thursday, 20 January 2005 23:43 (nineteen years ago) link

Minorities scare us, and women are for breeding.

― edward o (edwardo), Thursday, 20 January 2005 23:43 (nineteen years ago) link

xxpost
Pointless, but not as irritating, not even as irritating as the bit from 24 Hour Party People.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 20 January 2005 23:44 (nineteen years ago) link

I'm glad to hear Spencer and Adam agree with me on this point.

Hearing "Bizarre Love Triangle" and "Blue Monday" on top 40 radio in San Diego in 1986 when a callow teen: "Whoa, what is this?"

Hearing That Cover Version: "ARRGGGGH."

Pointless, but not as irritating, not even as irritating as the bit from 24 Hour Party People.

What's kinda funny about that is that said version never existed -- in otherwards, it was never written and performed that way and then the beats were added. It was a rhythm track first, and then built up from there!

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 20 January 2005 23:45 (nineteen years ago) link

I'm pretty sure I heard the Frente! version before I heard the New Order version. I know, right?

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 20 January 2005 23:47 (nineteen years ago) link

You're fired. (But I love you.)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 20 January 2005 23:50 (nineteen years ago) link

It's not my fault! I didn't even know who New Order was when I was 15!

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 20 January 2005 23:51 (nineteen years ago) link

I heard them both around the same time. I was like 12 and they played the Frente! version on Alternative Nation all the time and they would often play the New Order version right after. I'm pretty sure I heard New Order's version before though, but not long before.

― Mike O. (Mike Ouderkirk), Thursday, 20 January 2005 23:52 (nineteen years ago) link

Oh no wait, I take that back, I liked "Regret" a lot, and that was 1993. Yeah, it might have been around the same time for me, too.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 20 January 2005 23:52 (nineteen years ago) link

This isn't offensive so much as offensively bad.

It's worse than the other semi-ironic rap covers I can think of - "Gin and Juice" by the Gourds, "Boyz in the Hood" mentioned several times, the Supersuckers cover of "Dead Homiez." The former pair the good-natured vibes of the originals and translate it to their style ("Gin and Juice" also works really well a bluegrassy rave-up in itself, change a few lyrics an you could never guess that Snoop did it first), whatever ironic humor their audience found. They both actually put some effort into their readings of the song. The Supersuckers cover was played straight, from what I remember, and has no elements of "oooh, look the indie-rockers said something naughty," given their style ("She's My Bitch," "Ron's Got The Cocaine" etc.).

But this is just incredibly lazy and disrespectful to the original song and artist.

― milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Thursday, 20 January 2005 23:57 (nineteen years ago) link

Ned was callow?

― .ada.m. (nordicskilla), Thursday, 20 January 2005 23:58 (nineteen years ago) link

I'd like to hear a microhouse version of "Ain't No Fun".

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 21 January 2005 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Ned meant to type "tallow"

― donut christ (donut), Friday, 21 January 2005 00:02 (nineteen years ago) link

or actually "suet"

― donut christ (donut), Friday, 21 January 2005 00:02 (nineteen years ago) link

This is officially the most... something... thread. Ever.

― Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Friday, 21 January 2005 00:10 (nineteen years ago) link

DC, that's offal!

― David R. (popshots75`), Friday, 21 January 2005 00:15 (nineteen years ago) link

fIREHOSE's version of "Sophisticated Bitch" is played completely straight as well. And it rocks.

― martin m. (mushrush), Friday, 21 January 2005 00:18 (nineteen years ago) link

has anyone ever heard U2's version of "Got Your Money", with Edge doing the Kelis part?

― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Friday, 21 January 2005 00:25 (nineteen years ago) link

I'm curious to know if any of the defenders of this tune on this thread actually think this song is funny.

― Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 21 January 2005 00:25 (nineteen years ago) link

I don't think it's funny, I don't think it's necessarily meant to be funny and the premise of part of the question (that she has something to prove) is deeply flawed. Nina used to do impromptu, silly, cover versions as part of VS gigs, anyway, and this is just a cute throwaway for people who visit her website, which I used to frequently.

― edward o (edwardo), Friday, 21 January 2005 00:34 (nineteen years ago) link

But this is just incredibly lazy and disrespectful to the original song and artist.

Though I've refrained from being serious on this thread (except when I said Tori Amos' cover album was a piece of shit), I completely agree with this and all of milo's comment. There's just no indication whatsoever that she's doing this cover because of any kind of love for original song. It really does smack of "Oooh this will make the audience laugh."

― martin m. (mushrush), Friday, 21 January 2005 00:49 (nineteen years ago) link

I think its funny!

― scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 21 January 2005 01:04 (nineteen years ago) link

but the words "funny", "novelty", "effective", and "thought-provoking" aren't bitter enemies in my world.

― scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 21 January 2005 01:06 (nineteen years ago) link

But it's not Tom Lehrer!

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 21 January 2005 01:07 (nineteen years ago) link

The Supersuckers have a lot of dead homies (via the needle rather than the gun), so I always thought that cover was a little more poignant than I usually expect from the suckers. Then again, I may be reading too much into it.

― polyphonic (polyphonic), Friday, 21 January 2005 01:08 (nineteen years ago) link

I'd like to hear Tom Lehrer cover, say, "It Was A Good Day."

― polyphonic (polyphonic), Friday, 21 January 2005 01:09 (nineteen years ago) link

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