sorry; i guess that's better said on a "kings of l(ol)eon" thread. this is a l(ol)ed zepplin thread.
― Daniel, Esq., Thursday, 28 October 2010 17:33 (thirteen years ago) link
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― Canadian Club & Dr. Pepper (Myonga Vön Bontee), Thursday, 28 October 2010 18:25 (thirteen years ago) link
III or Grafitti. I hate II with a passion rivalling my feelings for post-rehab Aerosmith.― Bill Magill, Thursday, April 12, 2007 3:27 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
WAIT A MINUTE WHUT
― Neanderthal, Thursday, 5 June 2014 19:32 (ten years ago) link
The aesthetics of the poll results please me
― Vinnie, Thursday, 5 June 2014 19:38 (ten years ago) link
Presence was robbed.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 5 June 2014 19:44 (ten years ago) link
there are lots of folks that genuinely hate Presence. I love it. "Achille's Last Stand" is definitely proto-metal
― Neanderthal, Thursday, 5 June 2014 19:48 (ten years ago) link
Don't get hating Presence at all. I can see not liking it as much as other LZ records, but if you like Zeppelin why would you deny yourself the majesty of Presence?
― grandavis, Thursday, 5 June 2014 19:50 (ten years ago) link
I think lots of folk tend to gravitate towards either early Zep or later Zep more, guessing most of the Presence haters are more early-Zep fans. Obviously that's oversimplifying a bit but I definitely started out as more of a late-Zep fiend before I developed more appreciation for blues-based rock. would still put Houses of the Holy up top.
― Neanderthal, Thursday, 5 June 2014 19:54 (ten years ago) link
"bring it on home" = best album closer
― reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 5 June 2014 19:56 (ten years ago) link
I am a very latecomer to Led Zeppelin albums and Presence is easily my favorite, has such a consistent sound/groove, doesn't have songs you've heard a million times on the radio, only one boring blues jam. Last week I thought "maybe I should listen to a non-Presence LZ album for a change" so I tried "In Through the Out Door" and after a few songs I just put Presence back on.
― Immediate Follower (NA), Thursday, 5 June 2014 19:57 (ten years ago) link
"Achilles Last Stand" is so amazing.
― Immediate Follower (NA), Thursday, 5 June 2014 19:58 (ten years ago) link
The top five results are basically correct in any order (any of the five could be my favorite depending on the day), with the first two and Presence trailing just a bit behind.
― Surprise, It's My Butt (Old Lunch), Thursday, 5 June 2014 19:59 (ten years ago) link
Man make sure you give "Carouselambra" some time, that song is great. In Through The Out Door definitely has its moments, but it isn't a great straight listen compared to Presence etc.
― grandavis, Thursday, 5 June 2014 20:03 (ten years ago) link
Sorry, that is in regards to In Through The Out Door generally.
― grandavis, Thursday, 5 June 2014 20:04 (ten years ago) link
man got to give it up to the wisdom of crowds, that's precisely the order i'd have them in
― balls, Thursday, 5 June 2014 20:04 (ten years ago) link
Fuck man, gonna listen to "Carouselambra" right now.
― grandavis, Thursday, 5 June 2014 20:05 (ten years ago) link
Yeah, reading/talking/thinking about Led Zeppelin pretty much always makes me want to listen to Led Zeppelin. See also: eating, walking, sleeping.
― Surprise, It's My Butt (Old Lunch), Thursday, 5 June 2014 20:09 (ten years ago) link
i admire presence but i don't often enjoy it. a lot of it seems gruelling. a lot of it seems joyless. if i never hear dinner for two (or whatever that really long cousin-of-since-i'v-been-loving-you that closes the album is called) again i'd be fine with that.
― it definitely wasn't designed to be a pants pocket player (stevie), Thursday, 5 June 2014 20:13 (ten years ago) link
The intro to that song is great though, wish they had built a song around that.
― grandavis, Thursday, 5 June 2014 20:14 (ten years ago) link
oh yeah, definitely. quite a bait and switch, "oh shit, loving the sassy groove of this, oh wait oh no it's going slow did someone buy jimmy some junk?"
― it definitely wasn't designed to be a pants pocket player (stevie), Thursday, 5 June 2014 20:16 (ten years ago) link
Hah yeah, pretty much.
― grandavis, Thursday, 5 June 2014 20:18 (ten years ago) link
I like all periods of Zeppelin but there is something about the post-PG stuff that sounds somehow harsher and colder, more metallic. To me you can audibly hear Page switching over to a different engineering approach, and it's not just in the synthesizers. I almost want to say its like the difference between analog and digital, although I know that is probably not entirely correct. Not saying it's worse either, just different.
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 5 June 2014 20:23 (ten years ago) link
New studios? Prescence was done in Germany, and ITTOD was done at ABBA's place in Sweden.
― Damnit Janet Weiss & The Riot Grrriel (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 5 June 2014 20:28 (ten years ago) link
page also switched into a heroin addict. word is he was falling down zoned while they recorded 'presence' and by 'in through the out door' dude was toast and could barely play
― reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 5 June 2014 20:35 (ten years ago) link
― Neanderthal, Thursday, June 5, 2014 3:48 PM (47 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Proto-metal? In 1976?
― Prince Kajuku (Bill Magill), Thursday, 5 June 2014 20:36 (ten years ago) link
You could call something that came out in 1966 "proto-metal". But I think the genre had been pretty much established by '76.
― Prince Kajuku (Bill Magill), Thursday, 5 June 2014 20:37 (ten years ago) link
yeah last two albums are kinda plant and jpj taking the reins. maybe i just haven't encountered it or it's just due to the relative lack of work from page and plant going in a different direction but i've never seen much speculation on what the next zep album would've sounded like.
― balls, Thursday, 5 June 2014 20:40 (ten years ago) link
Maybe here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_r9n1FRh-o
― grandavis, Thursday, 5 June 2014 20:43 (ten years ago) link
Ugg, sorry for that formatting.
― grandavis, Thursday, 5 June 2014 20:44 (ten years ago) link
Bill there are still albums deemed "protometal" released in 2014
― Neanderthal, Thursday, 5 June 2014 20:48 (ten years ago) link
Page said he and Bonham had discussed making a heavier more riff-based record after ITTOD.
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― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 5 June 2014 20:49 (ten years ago) link
Page also started using Fender guitars more often than Gibsons after PG for whatever reason
― Sir Lord Baltimora (Myonga Vön Bontee), Thursday, 5 June 2014 20:53 (ten years ago) link
Gibsons weighed more than he did at that point.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 5 June 2014 20:55 (ten years ago) link
i used to think of I as an inferior test run for II but i think i like i better now
always been a presence guy
― dollar rave club (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 5 June 2014 21:40 (ten years ago) link
haha that's an awesome fan-trolling tracklist of that bootleg grandavis posted :)
― dollar rave club (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 5 June 2014 21:42 (ten years ago) link
Presence has 'Achilles Last Stand' and 'Nobody's Fault But Mine', which together make up an incredible 16-17 minutes worth of music, but I definitely think the rest of the album falls short of the standards they'd set by that point. I can certainly understand why folks would have considered to be somewhat of a disappointment/let down after Physical Graffiti.
Also, absolutely agree on 'Carouselambra' being a great track. My highlight of In Through The Out Door by miles.
As for what I would have voted for in this poll? Fuck knows. Right now I'm thinking Physical Graffiti but in a few months time I'd probably have changed my mind.
― Toni Braxton-Hicks (Turrican), Thursday, 5 June 2014 22:34 (ten years ago) link
"No Quarter" is such a complete miracle of a song / recording
― The Complainte of Ray Tabano, Sunday, 5 October 2014 06:54 (nine years ago) link
Presence
― flappy bird, Wednesday, 5 August 2015 16:33 (nine years ago) link
presence
― insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Wednesday, 5 August 2015 17:02 (nine years ago) link
My beef with Presence is that Achilles towers over the rest of the album. If there had been one more go-for-broke track like it I think it would rank higher. That said, Achilles Last Stand rules.
― a silly gif of awkward larping (Sparkle Motion), Wednesday, 5 August 2015 17:04 (nine years ago) link
They should've presented Teo Macero with "Achilles" and "Nobody's Fault But Mine" and said, "Now edit these into our In A Silent Way."
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 5 August 2015 17:11 (nine years ago) link
Nahhhh. There are some rad songs on the album, but Presence is def lower-tier Zep. You can argue about the order within the sets, but the two sets of four albums in the poll results are in the correct order.
― You open your face and all that comes out is garbage. (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 5 August 2015 17:19 (nine years ago) link
And Led Zeppelin are easily one of my all-time top three, so I say this with love.
― You open your face and all that comes out is garbage. (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 5 August 2015 17:21 (nine years ago) link
I'd put Presence just below the Big Four.
― You open your face and all that comes out is garbage. (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 5 August 2015 17:22 (nine years ago) link
ugh i like the zed records with names more than any of the big four
― insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Wednesday, 5 August 2015 17:29 (nine years ago) link
presence is so muscular, everyone is so locked into each other, i just love hearing them play like that. it's the same feeling i get from the 1975-era tracks on physical graffiti but more
― insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Wednesday, 5 August 2015 17:31 (nine years ago) link
By 'Big Four', I mean the four which are correctly-placed at the top of the poll results.
― You open your face and all that comes out is garbage. (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 5 August 2015 17:37 (nine years ago) link
Presence sounds to me exactly like what it is: a band following up their best album while one of their members is convalescing in a wheelchair. It's still great but the energy feels a little off.
― You open your face and all that comes out is garbage. (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 5 August 2015 17:40 (nine years ago) link
oh lol sorry, well i hella like presence and ittod better than iv and iii
― insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Wednesday, 5 August 2015 17:41 (nine years ago) link
and i think plant's performance on presence is tremendous given the circumstances, he invests a lot in the songs regardless