Best Led Zeppelin Album?

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sorry; i guess that's better said on a "kings of l(ol)eon" thread. this is a l(ol)ed zepplin thread.

Daniel, Esq., Thursday, 28 October 2010 17:33 (thirteen years ago) link

three years pass...

III or Grafitti. I hate II with a passion rivalling my feelings for post-rehab Aerosmith.
― Bill Magill, Thursday, April 12, 2007 3:27 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

WAIT A MINUTE WHUT

Neanderthal, Thursday, 5 June 2014 19:32 (ten years ago) link

The aesthetics of the poll results please me

Vinnie, Thursday, 5 June 2014 19:38 (ten years ago) link

Presence was robbed.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 5 June 2014 19:44 (ten years ago) link

there are lots of folks that genuinely hate Presence. I love it. "Achille's Last Stand" is definitely proto-metal

Neanderthal, Thursday, 5 June 2014 19:48 (ten years ago) link

Don't get hating Presence at all. I can see not liking it as much as other LZ records, but if you like Zeppelin why would you deny yourself the majesty of Presence?

grandavis, Thursday, 5 June 2014 19:50 (ten years ago) link

I think lots of folk tend to gravitate towards either early Zep or later Zep more, guessing most of the Presence haters are more early-Zep fans. Obviously that's oversimplifying a bit but I definitely started out as more of a late-Zep fiend before I developed more appreciation for blues-based rock. would still put Houses of the Holy up top.

Neanderthal, Thursday, 5 June 2014 19:54 (ten years ago) link

"bring it on home" = best album closer

reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 5 June 2014 19:56 (ten years ago) link

I am a very latecomer to Led Zeppelin albums and Presence is easily my favorite, has such a consistent sound/groove, doesn't have songs you've heard a million times on the radio, only one boring blues jam. Last week I thought "maybe I should listen to a non-Presence LZ album for a change" so I tried "In Through the Out Door" and after a few songs I just put Presence back on.

Immediate Follower (NA), Thursday, 5 June 2014 19:57 (ten years ago) link

"Achilles Last Stand" is so amazing.

Immediate Follower (NA), Thursday, 5 June 2014 19:58 (ten years ago) link

The top five results are basically correct in any order (any of the five could be my favorite depending on the day), with the first two and Presence trailing just a bit behind.

Surprise, It's My Butt (Old Lunch), Thursday, 5 June 2014 19:59 (ten years ago) link

Man make sure you give "Carouselambra" some time, that song is great. In Through The Out Door definitely has its moments, but it isn't a great straight listen compared to Presence etc.

grandavis, Thursday, 5 June 2014 20:03 (ten years ago) link

Sorry, that is in regards to In Through The Out Door generally.

grandavis, Thursday, 5 June 2014 20:04 (ten years ago) link

man got to give it up to the wisdom of crowds, that's precisely the order i'd have them in

balls, Thursday, 5 June 2014 20:04 (ten years ago) link

Fuck man, gonna listen to "Carouselambra" right now.

grandavis, Thursday, 5 June 2014 20:05 (ten years ago) link

Yeah, reading/talking/thinking about Led Zeppelin pretty much always makes me want to listen to Led Zeppelin. See also: eating, walking, sleeping.

Surprise, It's My Butt (Old Lunch), Thursday, 5 June 2014 20:09 (ten years ago) link

i admire presence but i don't often enjoy it. a lot of it seems gruelling. a lot of it seems joyless. if i never hear dinner for two (or whatever that really long cousin-of-since-i'v-been-loving-you that closes the album is called) again i'd be fine with that.

it definitely wasn't designed to be a pants pocket player (stevie), Thursday, 5 June 2014 20:13 (ten years ago) link

The intro to that song is great though, wish they had built a song around that.

grandavis, Thursday, 5 June 2014 20:14 (ten years ago) link

oh yeah, definitely. quite a bait and switch, "oh shit, loving the sassy groove of this, oh wait oh no it's going slow did someone buy jimmy some junk?"

it definitely wasn't designed to be a pants pocket player (stevie), Thursday, 5 June 2014 20:16 (ten years ago) link

Hah yeah, pretty much.

grandavis, Thursday, 5 June 2014 20:18 (ten years ago) link

I like all periods of Zeppelin but there is something about the post-PG stuff that sounds somehow harsher and colder, more metallic. To me you can audibly hear Page switching over to a different engineering approach, and it's not just in the synthesizers. I almost want to say its like the difference between analog and digital, although I know that is probably not entirely correct. Not saying it's worse either, just different.

Οὖτις, Thursday, 5 June 2014 20:23 (ten years ago) link

New studios? Prescence was done in Germany, and ITTOD was done at ABBA's place in Sweden.

Damnit Janet Weiss & The Riot Grrriel (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 5 June 2014 20:28 (ten years ago) link

page also switched into a heroin addict. word is he was falling down zoned while they recorded 'presence' and by 'in through the out door' dude was toast and could barely play

reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 5 June 2014 20:35 (ten years ago) link

there are lots of folks that genuinely hate Presence. I love it. "Achille's Last Stand" is definitely proto-metal

― Neanderthal, Thursday, June 5, 2014 3:48 PM (47 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Proto-metal? In 1976?

Prince Kajuku (Bill Magill), Thursday, 5 June 2014 20:36 (ten years ago) link

You could call something that came out in 1966 "proto-metal". But I think the genre had been pretty much established by '76.

Prince Kajuku (Bill Magill), Thursday, 5 June 2014 20:37 (ten years ago) link

yeah last two albums are kinda plant and jpj taking the reins. maybe i just haven't encountered it or it's just due to the relative lack of work from page and plant going in a different direction but i've never seen much speculation on what the next zep album would've sounded like.

balls, Thursday, 5 June 2014 20:40 (ten years ago) link

Maybe here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_r9n1FRh-o

grandavis, Thursday, 5 June 2014 20:43 (ten years ago) link

Ugg, sorry for that formatting.

grandavis, Thursday, 5 June 2014 20:44 (ten years ago) link

Bill there are still albums deemed "protometal" released in 2014

Neanderthal, Thursday, 5 June 2014 20:48 (ten years ago) link

Page said he and Bonham had discussed making a heavier more riff-based record after ITTOD.

xp

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 5 June 2014 20:49 (ten years ago) link

Page also started using Fender guitars more often than Gibsons after PG for whatever reason

Sir Lord Baltimora (Myonga Vön Bontee), Thursday, 5 June 2014 20:53 (ten years ago) link

Gibsons weighed more than he did at that point.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 5 June 2014 20:55 (ten years ago) link

i used to think of I as an inferior test run for II but i think i like i better now

always been a presence guy

dollar rave club (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 5 June 2014 21:40 (ten years ago) link

haha that's an awesome fan-trolling tracklist of that bootleg grandavis posted :)

dollar rave club (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 5 June 2014 21:42 (ten years ago) link

Presence has 'Achilles Last Stand' and 'Nobody's Fault But Mine', which together make up an incredible 16-17 minutes worth of music, but I definitely think the rest of the album falls short of the standards they'd set by that point. I can certainly understand why folks would have considered to be somewhat of a disappointment/let down after Physical Graffiti.

Also, absolutely agree on 'Carouselambra' being a great track. My highlight of In Through The Out Door by miles.

As for what I would have voted for in this poll? Fuck knows. Right now I'm thinking Physical Graffiti but in a few months time I'd probably have changed my mind.

Toni Braxton-Hicks (Turrican), Thursday, 5 June 2014 22:34 (ten years ago) link

four months pass...

"No Quarter" is such a complete miracle of a song / recording

The Complainte of Ray Tabano, Sunday, 5 October 2014 06:54 (nine years ago) link

ten months pass...

Presence

flappy bird, Wednesday, 5 August 2015 16:33 (nine years ago) link

presence

My beef with Presence is that Achilles towers over the rest of the album. If there had been one more go-for-broke track like it I think it would rank higher. That said, Achilles Last Stand rules.

a silly gif of awkward larping (Sparkle Motion), Wednesday, 5 August 2015 17:04 (nine years ago) link

They should've presented Teo Macero with "Achilles" and "Nobody's Fault But Mine" and said, "Now edit these into our In A Silent Way."

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 5 August 2015 17:11 (nine years ago) link

Nahhhh. There are some rad songs on the album, but Presence is def lower-tier Zep. You can argue about the order within the sets, but the two sets of four albums in the poll results are in the correct order.

You open your face and all that comes out is garbage. (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 5 August 2015 17:19 (nine years ago) link

And Led Zeppelin are easily one of my all-time top three, so I say this with love.

You open your face and all that comes out is garbage. (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 5 August 2015 17:21 (nine years ago) link

I'd put Presence just below the Big Four.

You open your face and all that comes out is garbage. (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 5 August 2015 17:22 (nine years ago) link

ugh i like the zed records with names more than any of the big four

presence is so muscular, everyone is so locked into each other, i just love hearing them play like that. it's the same feeling i get from the 1975-era tracks on physical graffiti but more

By 'Big Four', I mean the four which are correctly-placed at the top of the poll results.

You open your face and all that comes out is garbage. (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 5 August 2015 17:37 (nine years ago) link

Presence sounds to me exactly like what it is: a band following up their best album while one of their members is convalescing in a wheelchair. It's still great but the energy feels a little off.

You open your face and all that comes out is garbage. (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 5 August 2015 17:40 (nine years ago) link

By 'Big Four', I mean the four which are correctly-placed at the top of the poll results.

oh lol sorry, well i hella like presence and ittod better than iv and iii

and i think plant's performance on presence is tremendous given the circumstances, he invests a lot in the songs regardless


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