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best song i have heard all week is on the self-titled 1979 debut album by CREED. album opener "keep on rockin'" is totally smoking southern rock mayhem. love it to death. sadly, the rest of the album never hits the same heights, but worth keeping for the first track.

scott seward, Wednesday, 3 November 2010 20:41 (thirteen years ago) link

xp Yeah, the Cream cover is definitly Rosetta Stone's Eurosyntdisco move. But the more rocking originals on that album (mostly the second side I think) reminded me more than a little of The Sweet. So you might not think to look at them that they'd belong on this thread, but they sort of do. (Apparently their guitarist, Ian Mitchell, used to be in the Rollers.)

http://www.bsnpubs.com/nyc/privatestock/ps7011.jpg

xhuxk, Wednesday, 3 November 2010 21:50 (thirteen years ago) link

some stuff i have been digging lately. wish i had time to talk about each one, but i iz a buzy bee. got thousands of 45s to price. most are new to me. some are old faves. bloodrock, nitzinger, etc:

rock rose - s/t (columbia - 1979)

thundermug - ta-daa!! (mercury - 1975)

charley ainley - too much is not enough (nemperor - 1978)

charlie ainley - bang your door (nemperor - 1978)

airwaves - new day (a&m - 1977)

derringer - if i weren't so romantic, i'd shoot you (blue sky - 1978)

stillwater - i reserve the right! (capricorn - 1978)

jet - s/t (pacific arts - 1979)

lucifer's friend - mind exploding (janus - 1976)

john paul young - s/t (scotti brothers - 1978) (don't think i knew that vanda & young wrote "love is in the air". anyway, an essential album for vanda & young completists.)

the strand - s/t (island - 1980)

pat travers - s/t (mercury - 1976)

blackfoot - flyin' high (cbs - 1976) (such a good album)

straight eight - shuffle 'n' cut (rca - 1980) (power poppers who could rock. yay!)

trooper - money talks (rca - 1982)

driver - no accident (a&m - 1977)

edgar winter - jasmine nightdreams (blue sky - 1975)

city boy - dinner at the ritz (mercury - 1977)

jukka tolonen - crossection (janus - 1975)

nantucket - long way to the top (epic - 1980)

mike berry - i'm a rocker (epic - 1979) (really enjoy this!)

automatic man - s/t (island - 1976)

alpha band - the statue makers of hollywood (arista - 1978)

rick springfield - comic book heroes (columbia - 1973)(one decent guitar track and that's basically what i've been playing. not anywhere near as good as the andy kim album i got last week. his second album called Rainbow Ride. love that thing. guitars aplenty.)

le roux - s/t (capitol - 1978)

boxer - absolutely (epic - 1977)

river city - anna divina (enterprise - 1972)

bloodrock - 3 (capitol - 1971)

nitzinger - s/t (capitol - 1972)

scott seward, Thursday, 4 November 2010 14:42 (thirteen years ago) link

I liked that Automatic Man LP (and their other one) more than I expected; thought the Le Roux was spotty but passable enough. Neither all that hard rock, though, I don't think. Like that Nantucket LP a lot, and love the one Thundermug album I have -- Strikes from 1973. Have written about all of those on this board somewhere, in the past couple years. Wish I still had the first two Nitzinger LPs (both of which are in my metal book.) Picked up Bloodrock's second one (with "D.O.A.") for a buck back in March, and it was about as good as I remembered. Blurbed about Trooper's not-bad Thick As Thieves upthread I think. Thought Alpha Band's self-titled was a lot more keepable than T-Bone Burnett's 1972 B-52 Band and the Fabulous Skylarks record (but those aren't remotely hard rock either, of course.)

xhuxk, Thursday, 4 November 2010 15:33 (thirteen years ago) link

The Pat Travers debut is one of my favorites. Excellent version of "Hot Rod Lincoln" is deployed. Plus his stage set show-stopper, "Makes No Difference." And the original showing of "Boom Boom Out Go the Lights."

All of which I think I've said before.

Anyway, also but unrelated:

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/11/04/us_census_data_reveals_joblessness/

Gorge, Thursday, 4 November 2010 16:22 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah i know that le roux and some others don't really belong here, but i figured as far as the timeline goes i'd throw them in. i listen to tons of 70's soft and/or country rock.

also been playing this wacky privately pressed kub coda-produced album by michigan rockers The Blue Money Band. from 1981. i think. on blue vinyl, naturally. chuck would dig it. some novelty numbers. some 50's rock hijinx.

http://www.waykoolrecords.com/pics/Rare/BLUEMONEYSEALED3.jpg

scott seward, Thursday, 4 November 2010 17:19 (thirteen years ago) link

did i already mention on here how much i dig the reddy teddy album? boston band. album is from '76. local label. mix of the dolls, aerosmith, and garage/punkiness. so entertaining. this guy came in my store and it turned out that he used to be the guitarist for DMZ! boston garage punks from the 70's. one album on sire. then he joined the lyres. anyway, he wasn't a reddy teddy fan. oh well. he was nice though.

http://fredpopdom.free.fr/images/Reddy-Teddy/Reddy-Teddy-Front.jpg

http://fredpopdom.free.fr/images/Reddy-Teddy/Reddy-Teddy-Real-Kids-Poster.jpg

http://crazykids70.free.fr/bloglam/reddy2.jpg

scott seward, Thursday, 4 November 2010 17:29 (thirteen years ago) link

reddy teddy are connected somehow with boston band the atlantics. i know i have their one album, but i can't remember much about it. i should dig it out. and one member of reddy teddy later joined robin lane & the chartbusters. robin plays around here all the time. she lives right up the road.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_ZNPLfbw0gtg/RsnaUFEEucI/AAAAAAAAAl4/7_tlFZnjWBw/s320/Atlantics.jpg

scott seward, Thursday, 4 November 2010 17:33 (thirteen years ago) link

Yes you did:

was excited to find the reddy teddy album from 1976 two days ago -its been on my want list- even though the copy wasn't that great. but for 2 bucks i couldn't complain. so today my friend bugsy came by to sell me stuff and he had a perfectly perfect copy. what great timing! love this album. boston's answer to the new york dolls. some hard rock, some punkiness, some glam stomping and it also sounds like they were listening to the kings in aerosmith a little too. plus, lots of humor. and willie alexander's help. "a child of the nuclear age" kills me! love "moron rock" too. which seems to be an anti-glam, anti-alice cooper, anti-punk song all in one. "but its all gonna stop, have to chuck it all up/it's just lollipops that you suck/the truth of the matter is your eardrums are shattered playing the moron rock!"

― scott seward, Monday, August

But you can always say it again!

Gorge, Thursday, 4 November 2010 18:05 (thirteen years ago) link

Bump.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKlCZ1OdrdA

I'll be doing a pre-Xmas party on Dec. 11, the first live performance in well over a decade. Don't think any of the readers here are Pasadena/LA-based, but it's going to be free. And when the on-line poster is ready, it will have directions.

Gorge, Monday, 8 November 2010 17:40 (thirteen years ago) link

I'm LA-based! If I'm not doing anything that night, I may check it out.

Moving Pixels (J3ff T.), Monday, 8 November 2010 18:18 (thirteen years ago) link

I'll post the final details here. It's at a studio/home in the theatre district of Pas just off Colorado.

Gorge, Monday, 8 November 2010 18:50 (thirteen years ago) link

Someone sent me this. Dig the guy with the missing tooth. They have a -lot- of stuff from an Austin 2007 gig, including an amusing interview on how they're aiming for a record contract.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EgeZVH1o31w

Gorge, Wednesday, 10 November 2010 17:32 (thirteen years ago) link

Complete were all the rage around here around 2007:

Complete: this band is amazing

scott seward, Wednesday, 10 November 2010 17:52 (thirteen years ago) link

I missed the train in '07, loving it today. They're like the mutant child of DNA and Black Oak Arkansas.

Blastfemur (Dan Peterson), Wednesday, 10 November 2010 17:57 (thirteen years ago) link

The current Top 10 songs for soldiers preparing or riding into combat. From Tom Ricks, who wrote Fiasco," an account of the Iraq war, writing as a columnist at Foreign Policy.

http://ricks.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2010/11/12/the_best_defense_list_of_the_top_10_songs_for_heading_into_combat

Not a lot of surprises.

Gorge, Friday, 12 November 2010 22:40 (thirteen years ago) link

Oh, backhanded lists of heavy metal songs written by people who don't understand heavy metal.

Moving Pixels (J3ff T.), Friday, 12 November 2010 23:12 (thirteen years ago) link

Ricks made a genuine effort. He's older than me. But I know him, too, because he was an old subscriber to a newsletter I made.

The deadening presence of "Bodies Hit the Floor" is very real. It's inescapable on security video, if you are familiar with that -- on commercial TV and private stuff, of which I know a lot. And that's all leakage from noncom military positions.

Gorge, Saturday, 13 November 2010 07:16 (thirteen years ago) link

That song is very effective at its intended purpose -- there's a reason it's still being used in action movie trailers a good decade later.

Moving Pixels (J3ff T.), Saturday, 13 November 2010 17:32 (thirteen years ago) link

That's for sure. Royalties from reality shows on prison life and cop/swat engagements alone must be really eye-opening.

Gorge, Saturday, 13 November 2010 19:11 (thirteen years ago) link

I actually think that's fairy interesting list. Had never given either Drowning Pool or Dope a second's notice in the past before; didn't even have a good idea who either of them were until I checked Wikipedia last night. Probably figured Drowning Pool for generic Staind-cum-gnu-metal types, which probably they were. I should actually listen to those two songs, though; not sure whether I've ever even heard them -- and if I did, I wasn't listening close enough for them to make any impression. But right, looks like "Bodies Hit The Floor" has been licensed like crazy since it came out in 1991 -- WWF placements, too. Wasn't much of a hit on 1991 release, though still the closest they ever came to hitting the pop chart. But apparently they've been a consistent presence on "modern rock" radio, which I never listen to, ever since. Dope aren't as big, and of course their "Die Motherfucker Die" wasn't any kind of hit at all. (They had some kind of Nine Inch Nails or Marilyn Manson connection, I think? Could be mistaken about that.)

Wondering, though, about the the sample of soldiers that Ricks surveyed. If I'm understanding him right, those are from responses of military people who actually read his blog column? The demographic of which, he says, would explain why there's no rap on the list --I have to believe that more soldiers would use hard crunk and coke-dealer rap (not to mention Toby Keith or Montgomery Gentry, or are the grunts all too young for country now?) to motivate themselves than Hold Steady. (Why that particular song, anyway? I don't really get it. I bet only two soldiers named "Stevie Nix", at most. I like Hold Steady a lot, their first four albums, as indie rock goes, but at least the old Zevon song Ricks mentions in passing was about a mercenary.) Also thought that comment he quoted from the guy who used the Twin Peaks theme after learning relaxation techiques at West Point was interesting. (Also, Metallica and AC/DC are eternal, obviously, though I never thought of AC/DC as sounding especially warlike. Do understand "Hells Bells" though. And RATM is no surprise -- when I was in the Army in the early '80s, seem to me like the favorite band for lower enlisted guys was the Clash.)

xhuxk, Saturday, 13 November 2010 20:29 (thirteen years ago) link

Meant 2001 for "Bodies," obviously, not 1991.

xhuxk, Saturday, 13 November 2010 20:32 (thirteen years ago) link

Anyway, in the past few days I've been listening to two new CDs of unearthed tapes of '70s wannabe rock bands seemingly inspired by Sabbath, boogie, glam, Stooges, etc. -- Triphammer, who eventually partially evolved into the Banastre Tarleton Band, one of the biggest bar bands in Central Missouri, and O. Rex, proto-punk fanzine types from Brooklyn who eventually partially evolved into Bloomington, Indiana's Gizmos. Triphammer CD is live in 1970 in the Ozarks, and so far I'm liking it more. Just good early '70s drone sludge with leftover garage tendencies, not quite evolved past Blue Cheer in other words, albeit small-club bootleg sound quality. O. Rex one has great liner notes which tell you which songs were trying to rip off Brownsville Station, Blue Oyster Cult, Black Oak Arkansas, Dolls, Alice, whoever -- one song called "Suzi" is even a tribute to Quatro, and the title track, "My Head's In '73," recorded in '76 (most songs were earlier), is glam nostalgia, already, though it obnoxiously uses the n-word when claiming that white kids didn't listen to soul back before disco happened. Halfway amusing homophobic "Pushin' Too Hard" cover too, and they also cover the Stones, Link Wray, Yardbirds, and Skyhooks ("She Only Likes Me Cause I'm Good in Bed," or whatever -- probably not geting the title quite right; don't have the CD in front of me, and I've never heard the original.) Anyway, I wish the music was as good as the notes, but so far it's mostly theoretical -- teenagers (one guy just 13) learning their instruments, playing in parents' living room. Just super lo-fi, and thin, with original songs not even halfway written. Totally muddy guitar sound, though.

xhuxk, Saturday, 13 November 2010 20:53 (thirteen years ago) link

a little surprised hey man nice shot isn't on that army list.

scott seward, Saturday, 13 November 2010 21:02 (thirteen years ago) link

some of the records i bought last night that might fit here:

The commercials – compare and decide (eat records – 1980)

The radiators – ghostown (chiswick – 1978)

Michael kamen – new York rock (atco – 1973)

Human investment – invest your efforts into humanity’s struggle or be a human investment (rotten propaganda) (that’s what it says on the cover anyway. Crass fans in Pittsburgh with a crass-style logo. I couldn’t resist even though its from the 90’s.)

Virgin steele – wait for the night (mongol horde – 1983)

Nova mob – the last days of Pompeii (rough trade – 1991) (the only post-husker album I have ever owned. I love it. I’ve always had the tape. Vinyl was a dollar. Man, lots of this stuff was a dollar. I love you, western mass!)

Ramatam – in april came the dawning of the red suns (atlantic – 1973) (april Lawton I love you and want to marry you in a time machine! You rule!

East of eden – snafu (deram – 1969) (yeah!!!! Needed this!)

Kingdom come – journey (polydor – 1973) (clean u.k. original.)

Angst – mystery spot (sst – 1987) (don’t like this. Even for a dollar.)

Ruts dc – animal now (virgin – 1981)

Accept – metal heart (cbs – 1985)

Jimmy pursey – alien orphan (epic – 1981)

Sham 69 – the game (polydor – 1980) (yay! Needed this.)

Uriah heep – innocent victim (wb – 1977)

Hauser orkater – op avontuur (dutch artiness/weirdness from 1974)

Dfx2 – where are they now (world records – 1980)

The reds – s/t (a&m – 1979)

Lyn todd – s/t (vanguard – 1980) (just got bobby orlando’s THE NOW album and now I have this. He was a busy guy at the turn of the decade.)

u.k. subs – endangered species (nems – 1982) (yay! Needed this too.)

sore throat – sooner than you think (hurricane records – 1979)

scott seward, Saturday, 13 November 2010 21:08 (thirteen years ago) link

actually didn't have a copy of the reds album even though i used to see it in philly for a buck everywhere. and i couldn't remember if i owned a copy of innocent victim or not. um, its possible that i now own two copies.

scott seward, Saturday, 13 November 2010 21:09 (thirteen years ago) link

chuck, you would LOVE the lyn todd record. it was made for you.

scott seward, Saturday, 13 November 2010 21:11 (thirteen years ago) link

Will keep a lookout! I used to own that debut DFX2 EP; was retarded to get rid of it. (Still have Emotion, at least.) Blurbed about that Commercials album (which wasn't as good as I remembered, when I played it) either upthread or on Rolling Hard Rock (despite it not being hard rock) last year. And my blubbering fanboy worship of the Reds is somewhat legendary. (Did I mention upthread that Rick Schaffer put out a decent blues-sludge solo CD called Necessary Illusion this year? Well, he did.)

Few other things (mostly off the top of my head):

Favorite songs on Pat Travers' Heat In The Street, I decided, are probably "Hammerhead" at end of side one(Nugent-style speed-rock instrumental that sounds like its title) and "Go All Night" at start of side two (really really funky.) The closer, "One For Me And One For You," reminded my wife of Styx.

I like the second side of Happy The Man's Crafty Hands, where they sing, way more than the first side, where they don't. Fusion prog, I guess? Warmer than I'd expect. Apparently from D.C... Scott said on a different thread that he's a fan.

Glass Harp's Synergy peaks at the very beginning with some hot guitar jam action, but the rest is passable or better, and at times Beatles-like (says my wife, anyway, who listens to the Beatles way more than I do).

Doug and the Slugs often convince me they were Canada's answer to the Tubes -- or at least Side One of the LP I bought, and its liner notes, do.

The Family album I bought always sounds interesting to me when it's on in the background, but not a single song has sunk in.

The Alcatraz album I bought wound up as boring and irritating as I thought it would, though one fast song (at the start of Side Two I think) was tolerable.

Eddie Money's second album (Side One especially) turns out to more hard-rocking and consistent than his first one (and presumably than any album he made later), and the disco move "Maybe I'm A Fool" on Side Two is really convincing, too (also familiar -- a #22 pop hit, though I'm pretty sure I haven't heard it on the radio since. Anyway, he's clearly a soul guy at heart, and he pulled it off.)

Scott convinced me to pull out my copy of Nantucket's 1980 Long Way To The Top, and it sounded great. AC/DC cover (in tribute to ex tourmate Bon Scott liner notes say), boogie-rock originals of comparably heavy density, '60s garage soul with saxophones, Wet Willie type Southern soul rock, catchy AOR pop material, at least one good song about the music industry (I think), what seems to be a good-natured sense of humor all around -- they had plenty of ideas, and I probably need to play it more before they all sink in.

Been keeping up with George's blog ("Act Naturally" video cracked me up), but I'm still too bummed out about election results and resulting impending middle-class carnage to talk much more about it here. (Wonder if Rand Paul played Rush at his victory rally.)

xhuxk, Saturday, 13 November 2010 21:36 (thirteen years ago) link

sound is bad but who cares APRIL IS ON FIRE!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UOIUCe1-7p0&feature=related

scott seward, Saturday, 13 November 2010 21:53 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah, but were they better than Birtha??

Ha ha, speaking of unearthed tapes, just got a CD recorded 1978-1982 in the mail by Z'ev! Pretty sure George knows who this guy is, from back in his noise days. "L.A. percussion typhoon," not hard rock in any earthling sense, but as I recall he was doing the beating-on-pots-and-radiators thing before even Einsturzende Neubauten or Test Dept. thought of it. I used to own an LP by him back in the early '80s; not sure I ever played it all the way through though. Guess I'll try to play this one; good luck. "Technical info: Radical de-tuning of drums - LOW's producing HIGH's. Use of stainless steel, titanium, military aluminum -- HI TEMP/PRESSURE in their production creating a multiplicity of complex signals not available in LO TEMP/PRESSURE metals. Same holding true for plastics." Etc. Scott, you definitely have to include this one in your Decibel noise column.

xhuxk, Saturday, 13 November 2010 22:22 (thirteen years ago) link

i am! it's going in my next column.

scott seward, Saturday, 13 November 2010 22:31 (thirteen years ago) link

also got some cool lo-fi punk noise stuff from mike williams, the singer for eyehategod. that's going in my column. the noisy stuff he is doing totally reminds me of bedroom 80's industrial noise stuff. i dig it. i've got TOO much to write about this month. the world of noise/weirdo/whatever music is very healthy. and prolific.

scott seward, Saturday, 13 November 2010 22:33 (thirteen years ago) link

xp I should have guessed! And oh wait, duh, what was I thinking -- Scott, I have that Lyn Todd record already. Pretty sure it came in one of those great Metal Mike charity boxes, a few years ago. Super sleazy glam-rock/disco merger for gay bars, as I recall; she(assuming she's technically a she -- could be a drag queen for all I know) covers "Rebel Rebel" and "Pinball Wizard." But now it's moving back from the shelf upstairs again, to the to-be-played pile by the turntable downstairs.

xhuxk, Saturday, 13 November 2010 22:34 (thirteen years ago) link

that's the one! so much fun.

scott seward, Saturday, 13 November 2010 22:35 (thirteen years ago) link

Bobby Orlando is/was a genius. The Fast, The Now, The Flirts, Man 2 Man, the stuff he did for Divine. All the dance stuff in the 80's. i was excited to find the Lyn Todd record.

scott seward, Saturday, 13 November 2010 22:38 (thirteen years ago) link

Orlando produced and penned numerous hits that span multiple genres in mostly self-created groups and aliases, often just consisting of Orlando himself. His productions were released as: Ian Darby, The Beat Box Boys, Spooge Boy, Something/Anything, New Breed, Jonny Bankcheck, Hotline, Banana Republic, Oh Romeo, Teenrock, The New York Models, Hippies With Haircuts, Girly, Barbie & the Kens, Wow, 1 plus 1, The He Man Band, The Boyd Brothers, Nancy Dean, Ian Darby with Ya Ya, Cha Cha featuring Don Diego, Yukihoro Takanawa, This is House, Joy Toy, Dressed To Kill, Band Of South, Dynasty featuring Dexter D, Darlene Down, The Fem-Spies, Gangsters of House, Girls Have Fun, Zwei Maenner, Gomez Presley, Gringo Lopez, Patty Phillipe, Malibu, Lilly & the Pink, Miss Tammi Dee, Mc Fritz and the P-Rockers, Charlene Davis, Claus V, Ronnie Goes to Liverpool, The Bang Gang, Bubba and The Jack Attack, Fascination, Free Enterprise, Sandra Ford, Future Generation, Citrus, The College Boys, Condo, The Bigalows, Free Expression, Lola, Lifestyle, I Spies, Latin 1, Kinski Music, Gina Desire, Beachfront, Vision 1 and others.

scott seward, Saturday, 13 November 2010 22:39 (thirteen years ago) link

great info here:

"So, when leaving the music business, what did Bobby do then? He actually completed his law studies and he completed a book he had been writing which refutes Darwin's theories of the evolution. The book was called Darwin Destroyed, a book I have failed to retrieve."

http://www.disco-disco.com/artists/bobby-o.shtml

i want a 10-LP boxed set of Bobby O.

scott seward, Saturday, 13 November 2010 22:45 (thirteen years ago) link

Stiglano on that O. Rex CD I was talking about above:

http://black2com.blogspot.com/2010/11/o.html

A page on Triphammer, with MP3 samples from a retrospective CD by them, which I've never heard

http://www.empirearms.com/triphammer.html

Both bands probably Grand Funk Railroad fans too, come to think of it.

xhuxk, Sunday, 14 November 2010 02:39 (thirteen years ago) link

("Act Naturally" video cracked me up), but I'm still too bummed out about election results and resulting impending middle-class carnage to talk much more about it here. (Wonder if Rand Paul played Rush at his victory rally.)

The subtler point was at least the GOP has stars. They may be crazy but at least they're something. And their plan, and it seems a good one, is to gum up things so the economy will get far worse, enraging voters who will take it out on Obama again in 2012 because the man either can't or won't make the simple argument that they are, indeed, crazy. At which point they'll be able to get someone with a reality
show and/or in a straight jacket elected because the blue voters will be so discouraged they'll either be homeless, not vote or go for some trivial third party candidate.

Plus I wanted to do something with early Beatles guitars.

Gorge, Sunday, 14 November 2010 04:52 (thirteen years ago) link

Pretty sure George knows who this guy is

Yeah, I had his first LP. Him, Monte Cazazza and Factrix. They were the dudes. Fun times alienating people in the grad school apartment.

Gorge, Sunday, 14 November 2010 04:57 (thirteen years ago) link

Accidentally switched to the AM band on my car radio today and heard a Tea Party/Gig-is-up-for-Obama/Take-back-the-country updating of "Renegade" by Styx -- or the last verse or two of it, anyway -- but I'm not finding it on line. You're not missing much, though.

Played that Lyn Todd LP that Scott picked up the other day, and am leaning toward thinking that Lyn may well be a man, especially since the singer his/her husky voice most reminds me of is Divine doing "Walk Like A Man." (Possibly the only Divine track I've actually ever heard, come to think of it.) And though Lyn says "ever since I was a young girl" in "Pinball Wizard," he/she also makes a point of covering the Bowie song where the hot tramp's mother's in a whirl for not knowing if he or she is a boy or a girl. Really fun album, either way -- British invasion pop-rock ("It's You") and Sex Pistols guitars ("This Time I'm Doin' It For Love") in a pop glam disco new wave context, and Bobby O's Italodisco instrumental "Metropolis Suite" is totally gorgeous. Also, most of the songs are really short (including two well under two minutes). Drums, I just noticed, are credited to Jerry Nolan, presumably of the Dolls and Heartbreakers. Bobby Orlando plays most of the instruments, though, but also credits "Bobby Orefice" (!) for some additional guitars. (Actually, the other 1980 record it reminds me of is the new wave disco EP by Amy Bolton that I mentioned once in Accidental Evolution since she covered "Talk Talk" by Music Machine on it. Have no idea why I got rid of that one.)

Also surpised a few days ago to discover that, on the Ohio Express's 1968 debut LP (with "Yummy Yummy" and "Down At Lulu's" on it), they also did three eerie psychedelic tracks, or notable attempts, at least: "First Grade Reader," "Turn To Straw," and the five-minute closer "The Time You Spent With Me" all sound like Kasenatz-Katz had been absorbing lots of Yardbirds, and maybe Byrds too.

xhuxk, Wednesday, 17 November 2010 05:31 (thirteen years ago) link

lots of K&K bubblegum albums had great psych tracks on them. i mean, they usually had a couple of surefire singles to sell and then a whole album to fill. so i don't think they were very picky about how it got filled. (kinda like how the b-sides of the singles would be nonsense like the single played backwards. they were all about the a-side. like phil spector before them.) playing this the other night. AWESOME psych guitar jams on it that sound absolutely nothing like their smash bubblegum hit:

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_qZMtGqhHP_o/S4dzmoe51lI/AAAAAAAAA2E/9FfNwNsVOTI/s400/LemonPipers.jpg

scott seward, Wednesday, 17 November 2010 12:34 (thirteen years ago) link

oh and yeah i love that ohio express album too. have always thought it was overlooked or dismissed by a lot of rock fans. a lot of people probably just think that its silly kid stuff or whatever. their loss.

scott seward, Wednesday, 17 November 2010 12:39 (thirteen years ago) link

How you're allowed to make money for others. The internet music economy, in under 500 words

http://dickdestiny.com/blog1/2010/11/17/advertising-funnies/

So while you don't have the grease to bribe into iJobs or Rhapsody, you're good enough to finance others through click micropayments.

Gorge, Thursday, 18 November 2010 11:13 (thirteen years ago) link

So you can flog for BP, the asshole football player known as Chad Ochocinco and Susan Boyle. Among many others.

Explain to me how pro music journalism isn't interested in this.

Gorge, Thursday, 18 November 2010 11:22 (thirteen years ago) link

Lemon Pipers were a big Cincinnati area psych band in the late 60s (formerly Ivan & the Sabres) - those filler trax like "Dead End Street" were what they "really" sounded like. as you all know guitarist Bill Bartlett went on to RamJam of "black betty" fame. actually RamJam was the name K&K assigned to Bartlett's glam band Starstruck. history repeats...

hubertus bigend (m coleman), Thursday, 18 November 2010 11:36 (thirteen years ago) link

Was just listening to the Lemon Pipers. And RamJam's "Right On the Money". Coincidences.

Gorge, Thursday, 18 November 2010 13:00 (thirteen years ago) link

I have only ever owned one-half of a Lemon Pipers album -- a split record with the 1910 Fruitgum Company called Checkmate on Buddah, presumably from the late '60s. It's been in my nebulous "sell pile"; seemed ignorable or redundant to me before (i.e. the 1910 cuts I liked overlapped ones on Rhino's Best Of Bubblegum LPs I guess), but yesterday I pulled it out to re-check it. Guessing, though, that it's mostly singles from both bands, which would probably mean minimal psychedelia. Wonder if it's worth anything.

The youtube scenario George has been talking about on his blog sounds vaguely familiar to me, from my time at Billboard -- Was it part of some deal the company cut not only to potentially monetize user videos, but to keep label copyright lawyers off their backs? I might be wrong about that. But if so, I don't think I ever had a good grasp back then about how it would actually work on the ground, I'm not finding much about it on line, and I don't remember anybody bringing up the issue of fair use. Sucks, either way.

Old song that surprised me this morning, and that I probably never even noticed before: "Benny And The Bouncer," the two-minute Cockney greaser bar-brawl on ELP's Brain Salad Surgery; lands somewhere on the evolutionary line between music hall and oi!

xhuxk, Thursday, 18 November 2010 14:14 (thirteen years ago) link

i still need a copy of this album. their latter-day super-k effort.

http://www.popsike.com/pix/20100619/170502511317.jpg

scott seward, Thursday, 18 November 2010 14:25 (thirteen years ago) link

got a sweet copy of syndicate of sound's little girl album and i always think i'll keep a copy when i find one, but then i play it and i'm reminded of how wimpy it is. obviously little girl is genius and their cover of witch is okay, but the rest ain't so hot. i'm probably good with just a 45 of little girl.

scott seward, Thursday, 18 November 2010 14:29 (thirteen years ago) link


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