classic Wu-Tang solo run poll

Tuomas I think I can explain it. It's like, a few posts back, deej asserted that it was "corny" for one of the undisputed all-time classics of rap to have won this poll; the grounds on which he made this assertion suggest that he thinks people should think more about how their votes will make them look to others than which album they like best. I disagree with him, so I SB'd him with twelve different accounts.

Does that clarify the matter? If not, I can SB you a few times - in my experience, the old proverb "nothing persuades like SB" is still true

I voted GZA! Out and proud!

Gentlemen, we can't fight in here! This is the Wu room!

I've never really understood this ___________________ thing, can you explain it?

― Tuomas

posts vmic

I voted for Liquid Swords but only did so after, and probably in response to, deej's whole confusing anti-GZA fatwa. prior to that, I had no idea how I was gonna choose.

Plenty of people said they'd vote for GZA upthread. I hate this whining about "lurkers" every time a poll goes against what the loudest people in the room want.

^^^I counted - it's less than a dozen fwiw.

How the fuck does Liquid Swords win this...

... by getting more votes than anything else?

I'm just surprised, is all. I figured it would get more votes than Tical, but not the other two.

Wait, why is Liquid Swords the milquetoast lurker choice again?

All this really tells me is yes, I SHOULD get off my ass and get the three albums on this poll I don't already own.

Wait, why is Liquid Swords the milquetoast lurker choice again?

― the Ford Escort Cabriolet of middle-aged men (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, November 10, 2010 9:25 AM (1 minute ago) Bookmark

Yeah that's a better way of phrasing my surprise.

Wait, why is Liquid Swords the milquetoast lurker choice again?

because the majority of people who voted for it didn't post anything

Man there are so many polls where I click a box - sometimes seriously, sometimes for lols - but don't wanna get into the conversation therein.

I mean, my position here was "ODB 4 LIFE FUIUD" and it didn't seem worth posting at the time.

THat's an excellent justification for ODB standom.

Best way to force people to talk about the subject might be not to have the poll thing at the top of the thread.

"ODB 4 LIFE FUIUD"

c'mon this is always worth posting!

I was listening to Tical the other day; that disc has a vibe that's pretty different from the rest of the first-round solo Wu releases, which I think keeps it interesting still, besides Meth being awesome.

Like just production-wise, I mean.

i think i voted for liquid swords for the opening sample alone

I played a lot of Tical and Ironman because of this poll. While I enjoyed both, "Wildflower" on Ironman was pretty much a constant "holy fuck, what the hell are you saying, stop that" reaction every time I heard it.

Mind you, I never skipped it, but that is a fucking unsettling song.

LOL ohhhhhh "Wildflower."

My ringtone on my cell phone has actually been Cappadonna's verse from "Iron Maiden" for the last two years.

DEEP MEDITATION SOUND ORIENTATED, WAR THE BLIZZARD
RAP PARAMEDICAL THE WIZARD
CAPPADONNA, NEVER CATERIN' TO NONE
MY MICROPHONE AND THREE VERSE WEIGH A TON OF SLAUGHTER

does it ever go off at church

You ain't never see me in a church.

But nah, I have it on vibrate 95% of the time.

Shakey, one reason why a lot of people who voted maybe didn't post is the interminable, offputting, thread-derailing argument about grocery-bag lyrics in the middle. When a handful of people are going at it for post after post I can understand why 40 GZA fans just decided to vote and move on. Or maybe they all just wanted to annoy deej.

Anyway, I'm surprised by the surprise. Back in 1995, I remember the UK hip hop titles going ape for Cuban Linx whereas mags like Select and NME preferred Liquid Swords, so I always felt like it had more crossover appeal.

to all the gza voters, you have no taste, that song entirely made up of record label names, wow ingenius, PEACE

it's actually spelled "ingenious"

Wait, why is Liquid Swords the milquetoast lurker choice again?

in 1995, I remember the UK hip hop titles going ape for Cuban Linx whereas mags like Select and NME preferred Liquid Swords

k thx got it now

PROTONS ELECTRONS ALWAYS CAUSE EXPLOSIONS

Tical, without a doubt.

it's actually spelled "ingenious"

― irritable bol syndrome (s1ocki), Wednesday, November 10, 2010 1:51 PM (8 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

this is what its like getting struck by liquid swords

o and btw nice acronym killr priest, v clever

Also, Rae's Cuban Linx is a close second.

tical
linx
swords
return
ironman

DEEP MEDITATION SOUND ORIENTATED, WAR THE BLIZZARD
RAP PARAMEDICAL THE WIZARD

this is like my eternal submission to the favorite rap couplets thread btw

Shakey, one reason why a lot of people who voted maybe didn't post is the interminable, offputting, thread-derailing argument about grocery-bag lyrics in the middle. When a handful of people are going at it for post after post I can understand why 40 GZA fans just decided to vote and move on. Or maybe they all just wanted to annoy deej.

― The baby boomers have defined everything once and for all (Dorianlynskey), Wednesday, November 10, 2010 11:54 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark

not sure how a debate about the album in question is 'thread derailing'

well, it did go into some more general "the current state of hip hop" territory

and even if yall hated the argument at least i was trying to talk about something more interesting than ppl just writing out lists with little carats designation superiority as if their opinion sans context is meaningful in any way

and yes gza is the old head 'dont u miss when lyrics were GOOD' corny NME reading choice

Cuban Linx>Ironman>getting into a stupid argument with deej about hip hop>>>>>>lurker voting

the argument was potentially interesting bogged down by butturtedness

One big reason I voted for Liquid Swords was that it was basically RZA's album; there's that famous MTV interview where RZA says, "He heard his album when it was done" and laughs, and I always loved that. Plus, RZA's verse on "4th Chamber."

RZA's made some really crap albums fyi

like at first I bought into the mythos that the best Wu-related stuff all had RZA's hand in it, but that has not been borne out over the years. he was on fire for the first few releases, no doubt about it, but by '98 or so he was basically out of ideas

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ieWt8mLDhVs

just sayin'

after apollo kids, ^^^ is the best song in the history of the world (w/ glaciers of ice in a close third.)