I played a lot of Tical and Ironman because of this poll. While I enjoyed both, "Wildflower" on Ironman was pretty much a constant "holy fuck, what the hell are you saying, stop that" reaction every time I heard it.
Mind you, I never skipped it, but that is a fucking unsettling song.
― DJP, Wednesday, 10 November 2010 16:35 (thirteen years ago) link
LOL ohhhhhh "Wildflower."
― altered boners (rennavate), Wednesday, 10 November 2010 16:38 (thirteen years ago) link
My ringtone on my cell phone has actually been Cappadonna's verse from "Iron Maiden" for the last two years.
DEEP MEDITATION SOUND ORIENTATED, WAR THE BLIZZARDRAP PARAMEDICAL THE WIZARDCAPPADONNA, NEVER CATERIN' TO NONEMY MICROPHONE AND THREE VERSE WEIGH A TON OF SLAUGHTER
― altered boners (rennavate), Wednesday, 10 November 2010 16:39 (thirteen years ago) link
does it ever go off at church
― irritable bol syndrome (s1ocki), Wednesday, 10 November 2010 16:40 (thirteen years ago) link
You ain't never see me in a church.
But nah, I have it on vibrate 95% of the time.
― altered boners (rennavate), Wednesday, 10 November 2010 16:43 (thirteen years ago) link
Shakey, one reason why a lot of people who voted maybe didn't post is the interminable, offputting, thread-derailing argument about grocery-bag lyrics in the middle. When a handful of people are going at it for post after post I can understand why 40 GZA fans just decided to vote and move on. Or maybe they all just wanted to annoy deej.
― The baby boomers have defined everything once and for all (Dorianlynskey), Wednesday, 10 November 2010 17:54 (thirteen years ago) link
Anyway, I'm surprised by the surprise. Back in 1995, I remember the UK hip hop titles going ape for Cuban Linx whereas mags like Select and NME preferred Liquid Swords, so I always felt like it had more crossover appeal.
― The baby boomers have defined everything once and for all (Dorianlynskey), Wednesday, 10 November 2010 17:58 (thirteen years ago) link
to all the gza voters, you have no taste, that song entirely made up of record label names, wow ingenius, PEACE
― ice cr?m, Wednesday, 10 November 2010 18:46 (thirteen years ago) link
it's actually spelled "ingenious"
― irritable bol syndrome (s1ocki), Wednesday, 10 November 2010 18:51 (thirteen years ago) link
Wait, why is Liquid Swords the milquetoast lurker choice again?
in 1995, I remember the UK hip hop titles going ape for Cuban Linx whereas mags like Select and NME preferred Liquid Swords
k thx got it now
― the Ford Escort Cabriolet of middle-aged men (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 10 November 2010 18:54 (thirteen years ago) link
PROTONS ELECTRONS ALWAYS CAUSE EXPLOSIONS
― hope this helps (Granny Dainger), Wednesday, 10 November 2010 18:56 (thirteen years ago) link
Tical, without a doubt.
― drug stealer, Wednesday, 10 November 2010 19:01 (thirteen years ago) link
― irritable bol syndrome (s1ocki), Wednesday, November 10, 2010 1:51 PM (8 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
this is what its like getting struck by liquid swords
― ice cr?m, Wednesday, 10 November 2010 19:01 (thirteen years ago) link
o and btw nice acronym killr priest, v clever
― ice cr?m, Wednesday, 10 November 2010 19:02 (thirteen years ago) link
Also, Rae's Cuban Linx is a close second.
― drug stealer, Wednesday, 10 November 2010 19:02 (thirteen years ago) link
ticallinxswordsreturnironman
― Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 10 November 2010 19:03 (thirteen years ago) link
DEEP MEDITATION SOUND ORIENTATED, WAR THE BLIZZARDRAP PARAMEDICAL THE WIZARD
this is like my eternal submission to the favorite rap couplets thread btw
― ciderpress, Wednesday, 10 November 2010 19:09 (thirteen years ago) link
― The baby boomers have defined everything once and for all (Dorianlynskey), Wednesday, November 10, 2010 11:54 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark
not sure how a debate about the album in question is 'thread derailing'
― deej, Wednesday, 10 November 2010 19:09 (thirteen years ago) link
well, it did go into some more general "the current state of hip hop" territory
― the Whiney G. Weingarten Memorial 77 Clique (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 10 November 2010 19:10 (thirteen years ago) link
and even if yall hated the argument at least i was trying to talk about something more interesting than ppl just writing out lists with little carats designation superiority as if their opinion sans context is meaningful in any way
― deej, Wednesday, 10 November 2010 19:12 (thirteen years ago) link
and yes gza is the old head 'dont u miss when lyrics were GOOD' corny NME reading choice
― deej, Wednesday, 10 November 2010 19:14 (thirteen years ago) link
Cuban Linx>Ironman>getting into a stupid argument with deej about hip hop>>>>>>lurker voting
― the Whiney G. Weingarten Memorial 77 Clique (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 10 November 2010 19:14 (thirteen years ago) link
the argument was potentially interesting bogged down by butturtedness
― deej, Wednesday, 10 November 2010 19:17 (thirteen years ago) link
One big reason I voted for Liquid Swords was that it was basically RZA's album; there's that famous MTV interview where RZA says, "He heard his album when it was done" and laughs, and I always loved that. Plus, RZA's verse on "4th Chamber."
― that's not funny. (unperson), Wednesday, 10 November 2010 19:27 (thirteen years ago) link
RZA's made some really crap albums fyi
― the Whiney G. Weingarten Memorial 77 Clique (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 10 November 2010 19:30 (thirteen years ago) link
like at first I bought into the mythos that the best Wu-related stuff all had RZA's hand in it, but that has not been borne out over the years. he was on fire for the first few releases, no doubt about it, but by '98 or so he was basically out of ideas
― the Whiney G. Weingarten Memorial 77 Clique (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 10 November 2010 19:31 (thirteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ieWt8mLDhVs
just sayin'
― hoy orbison (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 10 November 2010 19:34 (thirteen years ago) link
after apollo kids, ^^^ is the best song in the history of the world (w/ glaciers of ice in a close third.)
― hoy orbison (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 10 November 2010 19:35 (thirteen years ago) link
No disagreement here. Liquid Swords ain't one of 'em, though.
― that's not funny. (unperson), Wednesday, 10 November 2010 19:41 (thirteen years ago) link
i dont think anyone here thinks ls is 'crap'
― deej, Wednesday, 10 November 2010 19:44 (thirteen years ago) link
there are some crappy songs on it!
― ice cr?m, Wednesday, 10 November 2010 19:45 (thirteen years ago) link
i voted liquid swords, but i like later wu solo albums more than any of these tbh.
― omar little, Wednesday, 10 November 2010 19:46 (thirteen years ago) link
a new challopser has appeared!
― ciderpress, Wednesday, 10 November 2010 19:48 (thirteen years ago) link
liquid swords doesn't have any bad songs. it is also the reason i now pronounce the W in swords. Also all Wu records have something worthy on them imo, even the likes of Birth of a Prince. (Actually just remembered The Trials and Tribulations of Russell Jones which was all garbage - it has fucking icp on it!)
― hoy orbison (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 10 November 2010 19:48 (thirteen years ago) link
labels is a v bad stupid no good song
― ice cr?m, Wednesday, 10 November 2010 19:49 (thirteen years ago) link
trials and tribulations had a cover of pigmeat markham's "here comes the judge" which was pretty cool
also had "taking a shit" the most literally named skit ever, unfortunately.
― corned beef swag (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 10 November 2010 19:54 (thirteen years ago) link
labels is awesome, gtfo
― hoy orbison (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 10 November 2010 20:06 (thirteen years ago) link
yes but what people like you fail to grasp is that an artist/album can be liked for reasons other than the one that has been most discussed by music critics, reasons that don't paint the person in the most negative light so you can look down on them from your perch of awesome pure hip hop dopeness.
― hope this helps (Granny Dainger), Wednesday, 10 November 2010 20:08 (thirteen years ago) link
I don't think LS is crap but I listen to pretty much all the other albums listed here more. there was a time when I really loved it but I dunno I'm just bored with it or something
― the Whiney G. Weingarten Memorial 77 Clique (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 10 November 2010 20:09 (thirteen years ago) link
― hope this helps (Granny Dainger), Wednesday, November 10, 2010 2:08 PM (10 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
i dont fail to grasp this. doesnt mean these results arent corny.
― deej, Wednesday, 10 November 2010 20:19 (thirteen years ago) link
well then that's worse. you grasp it, but you still cast aspersions as if you didn't. and i can only assume you do that so you can feel better about yourself as some hip happening dude in comparison. kinda pathetic.
― hope this helps (Granny Dainger), Wednesday, 10 November 2010 20:22 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah i must be the first person ever to accuse someone's taste of being 'corny' on ilm!
in case u havent noticed, its the aggregate results that are corny, im not calling out individuals who love gza for making a wu tang juice crew record or something
― deej, Wednesday, 10 November 2010 20:35 (thirteen years ago) link
everyone in this argument is gonna come out of it looking awesome.
― irritable bol syndrome (s1ocki), Wednesday, 10 November 2010 20:38 (thirteen years ago) link
if i could only point out douchiness when it was the first instance of that particular strain of douchines, i'd never get a chance to.
― hope this helps (Granny Dainger), Wednesday, 10 November 2010 20:40 (thirteen years ago) link
― deej, Wednesday, November 10, 2010
maybe?
Hey, No Offense, But All Your Blogs Bite It
― omar little, Wednesday, 10 November 2010 20:43 (thirteen years ago) link
What he does offer is fire.
― jabbascript (am0n), Wednesday, 10 November 2010 20:55 (thirteen years ago) link
lol omar
― honkin' on joey kramer (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Wednesday, 10 November 2010 20:58 (thirteen years ago) link
v. confusing dates on that thread ?_?
― String Yr BLOBs (bnw), Wednesday, 10 November 2010 21:03 (thirteen years ago) link
look i think it's pretty clear that those posts were made during that last innocent summer, before the world as we knew it changed.
― omar little, Wednesday, 10 November 2010 21:09 (thirteen years ago) link
Okay, as I posted upthread, I voted GZA, and I fall squarely into the NME reading circa '95 corny indie fuxor demographic. I love all 5 of these albums, and the reason I voted GZA was as follows:1) RZA's production- weird plinky casio keyboard beats, RZA before he lapsed into self parody2) Great GZA lyrics (but this has been done to death)3) Cameos from other members of the Wu at the top of their games4) Samples: even compared to Cuban Linx, the kung fu movie samples take it to another level, and make the album a coherent whole5) "In Bristol, with a fuckin' pistol" I first heard this record when living in Bristol and that line made it for me
Having said all this, on another day I could have voted for Cuban Linx (probably the Wu record I've listened to most, even though it tails off towards the end) or Return (though Nigga Please is its rival IMO). Tical and Ironman are both great, but don't rival those 3.
Also, 36 Chambers will always be my favourite Wu record.
― Neil S, Wednesday, 10 November 2010 21:41 (thirteen years ago) link