classic Wu-Tang solo run poll

You ain't never see me in a church.

But nah, I have it on vibrate 95% of the time.

Shakey, one reason why a lot of people who voted maybe didn't post is the interminable, offputting, thread-derailing argument about grocery-bag lyrics in the middle. When a handful of people are going at it for post after post I can understand why 40 GZA fans just decided to vote and move on. Or maybe they all just wanted to annoy deej.

Anyway, I'm surprised by the surprise. Back in 1995, I remember the UK hip hop titles going ape for Cuban Linx whereas mags like Select and NME preferred Liquid Swords, so I always felt like it had more crossover appeal.

to all the gza voters, you have no taste, that song entirely made up of record label names, wow ingenius, PEACE

it's actually spelled "ingenious"

Wait, why is Liquid Swords the milquetoast lurker choice again?

in 1995, I remember the UK hip hop titles going ape for Cuban Linx whereas mags like Select and NME preferred Liquid Swords

k thx got it now

PROTONS ELECTRONS ALWAYS CAUSE EXPLOSIONS

Tical, without a doubt.

it's actually spelled "ingenious"

― irritable bol syndrome (s1ocki), Wednesday, November 10, 2010 1:51 PM (8 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

this is what its like getting struck by liquid swords

o and btw nice acronym killr priest, v clever

Also, Rae's Cuban Linx is a close second.

tical
linx
swords
return
ironman

DEEP MEDITATION SOUND ORIENTATED, WAR THE BLIZZARD
RAP PARAMEDICAL THE WIZARD

this is like my eternal submission to the favorite rap couplets thread btw

Shakey, one reason why a lot of people who voted maybe didn't post is the interminable, offputting, thread-derailing argument about grocery-bag lyrics in the middle. When a handful of people are going at it for post after post I can understand why 40 GZA fans just decided to vote and move on. Or maybe they all just wanted to annoy deej.

― The baby boomers have defined everything once and for all (Dorianlynskey), Wednesday, November 10, 2010 11:54 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark

not sure how a debate about the album in question is 'thread derailing'

well, it did go into some more general "the current state of hip hop" territory

and even if yall hated the argument at least i was trying to talk about something more interesting than ppl just writing out lists with little carats designation superiority as if their opinion sans context is meaningful in any way

and yes gza is the old head 'dont u miss when lyrics were GOOD' corny NME reading choice

Cuban Linx>Ironman>getting into a stupid argument with deej about hip hop>>>>>>lurker voting

the argument was potentially interesting bogged down by butturtedness

One big reason I voted for Liquid Swords was that it was basically RZA's album; there's that famous MTV interview where RZA says, "He heard his album when it was done" and laughs, and I always loved that. Plus, RZA's verse on "4th Chamber."

RZA's made some really crap albums fyi

like at first I bought into the mythos that the best Wu-related stuff all had RZA's hand in it, but that has not been borne out over the years. he was on fire for the first few releases, no doubt about it, but by '98 or so he was basically out of ideas

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ieWt8mLDhVs

just sayin'

after apollo kids, ^^^ is the best song in the history of the world (w/ glaciers of ice in a close third.)

RZA's made some really crap albums fyi

No disagreement here. Liquid Swords ain't one of 'em, though.

i dont think anyone here thinks ls is 'crap'

there are some crappy songs on it!

i voted liquid swords, but i like later wu solo albums more than any of these tbh.

a new challopser has appeared!

liquid swords doesn't have any bad songs. it is also the reason i now pronounce the W in swords. Also all Wu records have something worthy on them imo, even the likes of Birth of a Prince. (Actually just remembered The Trials and Tribulations of Russell Jones which was all garbage - it has fucking icp on it!)

labels is a v bad stupid no good song

trials and tribulations had a cover of pigmeat markham's "here comes the judge" which was pretty cool

also had "taking a shit" the most literally named skit ever, unfortunately.

labels is awesome, gtfo

and yes gza is the old head 'dont u miss when lyrics were GOOD' corny NME reading choice

yes but what people like you fail to grasp is that an artist/album can be liked for reasons other than the one that has been most discussed by music critics, reasons that don't paint the person in the most negative light so you can look down on them from your perch of awesome pure hip hop dopeness.

I don't think LS is crap but I listen to pretty much all the other albums listed here more. there was a time when I really loved it but I dunno I'm just bored with it or something

yes but what people like you fail to grasp is that an artist/album can be liked for reasons other than the one that has been most discussed by music critics, reasons that don't paint the person in the most negative light so you can look down on them from your perch of awesome pure hip hop dopeness.

― hope this helps (Granny Dainger), Wednesday, November 10, 2010 2:08 PM (10 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i dont fail to grasp this. doesnt mean these results arent corny.

well then that's worse. you grasp it, but you still cast aspersions as if you didn't. and i can only assume you do that so you can feel better about yourself as some hip happening dude in comparison. kinda pathetic.

yeah i must be the first person ever to accuse someone's taste of being 'corny' on ilm!

in case u havent noticed, its the aggregate results that are corny, im not calling out individuals who love gza for making a wu tang juice crew record or something

everyone in this argument is gonna come out of it looking awesome.

if i could only point out douchiness when it was the first instance of that particular strain of douchines, i'd never get a chance to.

yeah i must be the first person ever to accuse someone's taste of being 'corny' on ilm!

― deej, Wednesday, November 10, 2010

maybe?

Hey, No Offense, But All Your Blogs Bite It

What he does offer is fire.

lol omar

v. confusing dates on that thread ?_?

look i think it's pretty clear that those posts were made during that last innocent summer, before the world as we knew it changed.

Okay, as I posted upthread, I voted GZA, and I fall squarely into the NME reading circa '95 corny indie fuxor demographic. I love all 5 of these albums, and the reason I voted GZA was as follows:
1) RZA's production- weird plinky casio keyboard beats, RZA before he lapsed into self parody
2) Great GZA lyrics (but this has been done to death)
3) Cameos from other members of the Wu at the top of their games
4) Samples: even compared to Cuban Linx, the kung fu movie samples take it to another level, and make the album a coherent whole
5) "In Bristol, with a fuckin' pistol" I first heard this record when living in Bristol and that line made it for me

Having said all this, on another day I could have voted for Cuban Linx (probably the Wu record I've listened to most, even though it tails off towards the end) or Return (though Nigga Please is its rival IMO). Tical and Ironman are both great, but don't rival those 3.

Also, 36 Chambers will always be my favourite Wu record.

MY LABORATORY STORY KEEP ME FLOWIN' WITH THE GLORY
A CAPELLA OR DEEP DIRTY INSTRUMENTAL
I COULD BLOW THE SKY (NO HOMO?) LIKE THE STORMY WIND BLEW
ONE GALLON OF WHYLIN', PARK HILL PROFILIN'
I CUT YOUR FACE UP ROUGH LIKE FIFTY SURE WHILE YOU'RE SMILIN'

supreme clientele has the best vocal samples imo, "my god so they are killers"

deej, I didn't mean your original point was a derail but the way the argument went on and on and on, in increasingly acrimonious and pedantic fashion, dominated the thread for a couple of days - "potentially interesting bogged down by butturtedness" as you put it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTPB9inzOPU