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It means that guy in the interview is going to be what you see next to you in bed when you wake up some day. Strange, I know.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 21 February 2003 21:21 (twenty-one years ago) link

Jandek could be working at a bank near you. imagine that!

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Friday, 21 February 2003 21:22 (twenty-one years ago) link

Jandeks cuffs are not unlinked.

lawrence kansas (lawrence kansas), Friday, 21 February 2003 21:23 (twenty-one years ago) link

Six And Six, You Walk Alone, Telegraph Melts and Blue Corpse are my favs.Warning: Once you start you may never come back...Jandek will mess with your mind.

brg30 (brg30), Saturday, 22 February 2003 23:02 (twenty-one years ago) link

eight months pass...
So now there's this new Jandek best of and I'm all like "Oh great, I can finally hear what's so great about this band without wading through 88 hours of pond-scum" and I put the thing on and it is COMPLETE FUCKING TORTURE! This is his BEST stuff? What the FUCK are people talking about?! "Catchy" "songs"?! Haha "hooks"?!?! And even for an indie-rock guy Jandek can NOT fucking SING!! ARE YOU PEOPLE ALL ON THE FUCKING CRACK???? STOP SMOKING THE FUCKING CRACK! IT IS BAD FOR YOU!

gygax! (gygax!), Tuesday, 4 November 2003 17:53 (twenty years ago) link

Favorite albums: Lost Cause, Interstellar Discussion, The Rocks Crumble, The Beginning. (The latter ends with about 20 minutes of solo piano that's better than some Cecil Taylor records I own.) (Some, not all.)

Phil Freeman (Phil Freeman), Tuesday, 4 November 2003 18:10 (twenty years ago) link

It's funny this thread should be revived...

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 4 November 2003 18:11 (twenty years ago) link

What's more surprising: Jandek having a best of? Gygax not being into Jandek?

Ian Johnson (orion), Tuesday, 4 November 2003 18:39 (twenty years ago) link

(Ian: Gygax is parodying something on the GBV thread...)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 4 November 2003 18:40 (twenty years ago) link

Oh, darn me for not reading the GBV thread first.

Alas and alack.

Ian Johnson (orion), Tuesday, 4 November 2003 18:41 (twenty years ago) link

Sorry about that, but yeah replace Jandek with Los Del Rio, Basement Jaxx, Dean Friedman, etc. Typical ILM BS.

gygax! (gygax!), Tuesday, 4 November 2003 18:52 (twenty years ago) link

Ned that writing is tripping me out. i need to sit down and read it properly

the surface noise (electricsound), Tuesday, 4 November 2003 23:32 (twenty years ago) link

x-post --> too much scrabble has scrambled your head, little hobbit.

jack cole (jackcole), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 01:30 (twenty years ago) link

longest crosspost delay evah

Curt1s St3ph3ns, Wednesday, 5 November 2003 01:39 (twenty years ago) link

haha, i got your AIM at about 4:30am this morning JC. the Jandek exercise was not founded in fact (although i haven't listened to the man in several years now).

gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 01:48 (twenty years ago) link

Ned that writing is tripping me out. i need to sit down and read it properly

It's turned into something more involved and interesting than I expected, and is definitely no longer trying to be an exact portrait like the earliest chapters try and be. Somewhere between fanfic and psychological study, eventually. Or so I hope.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 01:54 (twenty years ago) link

you should send it to the great man himself when you're done

the surface noise (electricsound), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 01:55 (twenty years ago) link

Good lord, what a frightening thought.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 01:58 (twenty years ago) link

Ned, you should send it to him. I sent a letter to Jandek a few years ago because I wanted to get his permission to use his music in a film project that I never actually got around to working on, and he sent me a letter in return. He explained that he doesn't mind people using his music in films, but does not want money, only credit. He offered to send me a box of cds, and for some reason I never wrote back and accepted his offer even though I really would have liked to have had a bunch of free Jandek cds.

I'll have to set aside some time to read your stuff, Ned...

Matthew Perpetua (Matthew Perpetua), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 14:47 (twenty years ago) link

things to do with a boxful of jandek cds...

1)

amateur!st (amateurist), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 16:05 (twenty years ago) link

Yeeps, personally I'd think it was a weird intrusion! Especially since the story really only uses his general situation and some specific details as a background to something else which is invented out of whole cloth. I've specifically not used his name (or the label's or any of the album titles) for a reason.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 16:10 (twenty years ago) link

I suppose I'll let the guys at the fansite know about it, though. Hell, it's where I'm getting all the chapter titles and the image on the main page!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 16:14 (twenty years ago) link

Anyway, yes, my little novel thing is done and I did write Seth Tisue about it, at least, along with including a little disclaimer of sorts. Rah.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 6 November 2003 21:37 (twenty years ago) link

you wrote a novel based on jandek album titles?

amateur!st (amateurist), Friday, 7 November 2003 11:59 (twenty years ago) link

Nope, not titles.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 7 November 2003 14:17 (twenty years ago) link

covers?

amateur!st (amateurist), Friday, 7 November 2003 15:23 (twenty years ago) link

Not specifically.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 7 November 2003 18:08 (twenty years ago) link

complete and utter speculation?

Curt1s St3ph3ns, Friday, 7 November 2003 21:11 (twenty years ago) link

Read the disclaimer.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 7 November 2003 21:13 (twenty years ago) link

No!

Curt1s St3ph3ns, Friday, 7 November 2003 21:15 (twenty years ago) link

:-(

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 7 November 2003 21:16 (twenty years ago) link


jandek doesnt seem that great once youre used to him

duane, Friday, 7 November 2003 23:25 (twenty years ago) link

same w. the dropping a guitar on yr foot thing i guess

duane, Friday, 7 November 2003 23:34 (twenty years ago) link

yeah but think of the infinite ways one can drop a guitar on one's foot

amateur!st (amateurist), Saturday, 8 November 2003 13:27 (twenty years ago) link

one year passes...
I love Janedek.

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Friday, 5 August 2005 23:49 (eighteen years ago) link

I love Banacek.

Irv Beevlefetzer, Saturday, 6 August 2005 00:43 (eighteen years ago) link

if you mean former pittsburgh steeler john banacek, then i'm on your side.

mookieproof (mookieproof), Saturday, 6 August 2005 00:44 (eighteen years ago) link

two years pass...

Jandek is a box of smoke. Open it and...*poof*.

roxymuzak, Wednesday, 24 October 2007 02:07 (sixteen years ago) link

did you call me a poof?

electricsound, Wednesday, 24 October 2007 02:16 (sixteen years ago) link

Twenty years ago I came across Jandek records and was naturally pretty miffed. Then I read some short article in Option, I believe. Seemed like an interesting oddity. Then lost touch with it. Then ran across that Jandek on Corwood film, which I thought managed to express both a sincere appreciation and still keep its wits about the situation. I thought Doug Wolk did a very good job balancing his analysis, as opposed to the Half Japanese movie The Band That Would Be King where Cosloy and Coley came off like pompous assclowns (OK, Byron you don't own any Beatle records, you're really cool) and Half Japanese sounded like a bad joke.

But then I read that Jandek was out performing and it seemed so wrong. As if the concept finally ran its course and was now something else that didn't quite work. I dunno. I'd be curious how others see it.

That's my longwinded way of asking: how do you feel about Jandek in 2007?

smurfherder, Wednesday, 24 October 2007 04:04 (sixteen years ago) link

I saw a show, it was fair, but ultimately kind of boring (though I am very glad I went). But I have been listening to Manhattan Tuesday though and it sounds pretty nice.

Mark Rich@rdson, Wednesday, 24 October 2007 04:09 (sixteen years ago) link

three months pass...

McJandek.

Gorge, Saturday, 9 February 2008 00:32 (sixteen years ago) link

I'm fucking greater than Jandek, and I can't play much either. Here's a whole album on youtube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVfydUa-I78

I don't get Jandek.

nicky lo-fi, Saturday, 9 February 2008 08:56 (sixteen years ago) link

But then I read that Jandek was out performing and it seemed so wrong. As if the concept finally ran its course and was now something else that didn't quite work. I dunno. I'd be curious how others see it.

I agree, it would've been much cooler if the man just had quit at some point and enter total obscurity (again) (not even reprinting sold out records)

Ludo, Saturday, 9 February 2008 09:01 (sixteen years ago) link

"cooler"

Stormy Davis, Saturday, 9 February 2008 09:03 (sixteen years ago) link

surely you are also greater than jackson pollock and william carlos williams

don't sell yourself short

xxp

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Saturday, 9 February 2008 09:05 (sixteen years ago) link

"cooler"

:)

Ludo, Saturday, 9 February 2008 11:27 (sixteen years ago) link

I'm humble by nature.

nicky lo-fi, Saturday, 9 February 2008 11:32 (sixteen years ago) link

so much depends
on my
wallowing in
internal
whimsy
I
again

nicky lo-fi, Saturday, 9 February 2008 11:37 (sixteen years ago) link

is this ilm jandek street team day or somethuing?

Crackle Box, Saturday, 9 February 2008 13:54 (sixteen years ago) link

Would be interesting doing track by track analysis with some of those albums,with snippets

here comes the hotstamper (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 27 October 2020 05:53 (three years ago) link

Would definitely subscribe to the jandekcast patreon. Especially if elvis telecom made guest appearances.

Fetchboy, Tuesday, 27 October 2020 06:29 (three years ago) link

At risk of liver damage, if our voices could make a Jandekcast work and worthy of the Rep - I'm in.

Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 27 October 2020 07:15 (three years ago) link

you need a separate podcast just for the LP covers. will never not be in awe of the countless non-chronological portraits captured of the rep throughout his life.

i think i could spend forever thinking about jandek.

maelin, Tuesday, 27 October 2020 13:23 (three years ago) link

I would 100% kickstart a moderately expensive coffee table/art book with good 12x12 reproductions of the original album covers

Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 27 October 2020 13:45 (three years ago) link

So one time the Rep from Corwood played a gig in Mankato, MN and his band featured some friends of mine so post-gig we end up at a little house party & the Rep himself was there, in all black, big hat, etc. And so obv no one is talking to him & it is all very awkward and weird, like this is a REALLY small place.

And we were kind of told by the host of the party that we probably shouldn't talk to him but one of my friends who I rode down with was like "we gotta talk to Jandek, but I don't know what to say" and my friend is not like a shy person at all but we were all a bit starstruck.

I decide, dude is from Texas, I know how to talk to someone from Texas, so I go up to him

"Hey, uh good show man"
Rep From Corward, totally stone faced: "..."
"Yeah...so, hey if I went to Houston where is the best place to get BBQ?"

At this point his eyes light up, he gets this little grin and sez: "huh, well I make the best BBQ in Texas" and from that point on I cannot get Jandek to shut up, we talk whiskey, hats, wild javelinas, BBQ, but anytime we even get close to music or anything he gets really quiet.

It was a weird night man, HBD weirdo

chr1sb3singer, Tuesday, 27 October 2020 21:13 (three years ago) link

haha fucking brilliant. i feel like he's a normal bloke who doesn't want the spirits his house have given him. hank hill and the rep have a lot in common.

maelin, Tuesday, 27 October 2020 21:37 (three years ago) link

lmao that's an amazing story

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Tuesday, 27 October 2020 21:49 (three years ago) link

perhaps it's just me but I really cooled on Jandek after that two-part interview in The Wire - like, I know he didn't actually say much but it was still kinda too much information

much preferred having a speculative relationship with the Jandek project

having said that the one time I saw him live (Melbourne, with David Keenan and Heather Leigh) was extraordinary

umsworth (emsworth), Tuesday, 27 October 2020 22:48 (three years ago) link

Was disappointed by the show I saw — he had an amazing band (Loren Mazzacane Connors, Matt Hecker, and Chris Corsano) but played synth and recited poetry all night instead of going improv noise-jam like you normally would if you had those three behind you. LMC got a couple of good solos off, though.

but also fuck you (unperson), Tuesday, 27 October 2020 23:07 (three years ago) link

xp I'm pretty sure 90% of that interview was total BS

howls of non-specificity (sleeve), Tuesday, 27 October 2020 23:23 (three years ago) link

Saw three shows in the space of a week and were all very different from memory. Two Youngs/Neilsons bookended a Mick Flowers/Chris Corsano show which was probably the noisiest? Third show was most structured and had some definite angular/post punk tunes you could probably have hummed the tune to. One even had a dance routine of sorts, or at least defined arm waving.

Actually the thing I remember most is the Representative carrying around what seemed to be his musical wordly goods - lyrics sheets, song notes, strings - in a supermarket carrier bag that he held overly tightly.

pedantly admonishment (aldo), Tuesday, 27 October 2020 23:26 (three years ago) link

I'm pretty sure 90% of that interview was total BS

BS as in it was deliberately trying to twist the tail of Wire-reading chins-strokers? Or BS as in made up?

Either way it was kind of a drag

umsworth (emsworth), Wednesday, 28 October 2020 00:25 (three years ago) link

completely made up, imo

howls of non-specificity (sleeve), Wednesday, 28 October 2020 00:29 (three years ago) link

he had an amazing band (Loren Mazzacane Connors, Matt Hecker, and Chris Corsano) but played synth and recited poetry all night instead of going improv noise-jam like you normally would if you had those three behind you.

this is the jandek way. he's not going to ride the wave, he's going to try to fuck it up and be alienating wherever possible. and recite poetry.

real muthaphuckkin jeez (crüt), Wednesday, 28 October 2020 14:12 (three years ago) link

two weeks pass...

about to start marathon listening to entire corwood discography, one LP a week. groovy! who's in? ...anybody? ...

maelin, Wednesday, 11 November 2020 15:00 (three years ago) link

I'm in for a while, first 22 at least

howls of non-specificity (sleeve), Wednesday, 11 November 2020 15:04 (three years ago) link

I would be very down for a Jandek listening thread/discussion

it bangs for thee (Simon H.), Wednesday, 11 November 2020 15:24 (three years ago) link

I'm in

Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 11 November 2020 20:16 (three years ago) link

six months pass...

Jandek...the book.

Jandek New BOOK Release:

0127 The Rays Of Light That Did Not Illumine https://t.co/s2obsK93TT pic.twitter.com/SLwvEDCEIR

— Sheila Smith (@veganloca) May 17, 2021

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 19 May 2021 15:18 (three years ago) link

I'm assuming poetry...but hoping for confessional autobiography.

but also fuck you (unperson), Wednesday, 19 May 2021 15:30 (three years ago) link

Then it turns out it's just nothing but accounting figures.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 19 May 2021 15:33 (three years ago) link

"1990, good year."

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 19 May 2021 15:33 (three years ago) link

Hoping for horror stories, expecting lyrics

remind me not to read the comments on that one (Matt #2), Wednesday, 19 May 2021 16:39 (three years ago) link

hoping for political cartoons

intern at pelican brief consulting (Simon H.), Wednesday, 19 May 2021 16:43 (three years ago) link

given the title and shape I'm guessing LP cover photobook

( X '____' )/ (zappi), Wednesday, 19 May 2021 21:06 (three years ago) link

friend of mine got it

20 page prose poem

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 27 May 2021 20:38 (three years ago) link

only $10 on the website!

sleeve, Thursday, 27 May 2021 20:40 (three years ago) link

three years pass...

what does it mean when Jandek just sounds REALLY right to you? like, the planets are aligned and any album or live recording of his is just...right in your mental wheelhouse. all the chords and notes and riffs sound like the perfect way to play something. the singing and lyrics the perfect way to express life on earth.

it isn't always like this. by a long shot. should i call a doctor? or just roll with it while it lasts?

i mean this glasgow sunday live album right now is just hitting the spot in a big way. but i've been listening all morning and it just sounds righter and righter.

scott seward, Sunday, 2 June 2024 16:47 (yesterday) link

Just roll with it. That aphorism about everything finding an audience eventually is legitimate.

Too bad yr not in Los Angeles, Jandek is playing the Lodge Room tonight and there's still tickets available

Elvis Telecom, Sunday, 2 June 2024 20:05 (yesterday) link


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