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I think in the case of "Appetite" the obvious choices are also clearly the right ones and we could probably eliminate all pretenders right now, but then again, I've always thought of that album as fat with filler

but let's get rid of one of their more half-asses anthems right now:

1. Welcome To The Jungle
2. It's So Easy
3. Nightrain
4. Out Ta Get Me
5. Mr Brownstone
6.
7. My Michelle
8. Think About You
9. Sweet Child O' Mine
10. You're Crazy
11.
12.

Banana Nutrament (ghostface), Monday, 26 September 2005 17:59 (eighteen years ago) link

haha "half-asses"

Banana Nutrament (ghostface), Monday, 26 September 2005 18:00 (eighteen years ago) link

update:

1. Welcome To The Jungle
2. It's So Easy
3. Nightrain
4. Out Ta Get Me
5. Mr Brownstone
6.
7. My Michelle
8.
9. Sweet Child O' Mine
10. You're Crazy
11.
12.

petesmith (plsmith), Monday, 26 September 2005 18:04 (eighteen years ago) link

right sorry I was caught in a hail of xposts!

Banana Nutrament (ghostface), Monday, 26 September 2005 18:11 (eighteen years ago) link

cutting "my michelle," kind of a lightweight compared to some of the others...

update:
1. Welcome To The Jungle
2. It's So Easy
3. Nightrain
4. Out Ta Get Me
5. Mr Brownstone
6.
7.
8.
9. Sweet Child O' Mine
10. You're Crazy
11.
12.

daveheaton, Monday, 26 September 2005 18:16 (eighteen years ago) link

man, the only one i dont love of the remaining is "welcome to the jungle," but i cant bring myself to deny that song's position as pure essence.

petesmith (plsmith), Monday, 26 September 2005 18:19 (eighteen years ago) link

fine - if no one is going to get excited, ill just use my pick to go ahead and make people angry.

1.
2. It's So Easy
3. Nightrain
4. Out Ta Get Me
5. Mr Brownstone
6.
7.
8.
9. Sweet Child O' Mine
10. You're Crazy
11.
12.

petesmith (plsmith), Monday, 26 September 2005 18:45 (eighteen years ago) link

I think the essence may have fled, but I didn't like "Mr Brownstone" when I didn't like this album, and I don't like it much now I do. The sing-song chorus annoys me.

1.
2. It's So Easy
3. Nightrain
4. Out Ta Get Me
5.
6.
7.
8.
9. Sweet Child O' Mine
10. You're Crazy
11.
12.

Tom (Groke), Monday, 26 September 2005 18:49 (eighteen years ago) link

if "out ta get me" wins it means the antichrist just got born

Banana Nutrament (ghostface), Monday, 26 September 2005 19:05 (eighteen years ago) link

No worries, that song blows.

1.
2. It's So Easy
3. Nightrain
4.
5.
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8.
9. Sweet Child O' Mine
10. You're Crazy
11.
12.

The King of Flop Threads, Monday, 26 September 2005 19:57 (eighteen years ago) link

no, I'm not crazy at all.

1.
2. It's So Easy
3. Nightrain
4.
5.
6.
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8.
9. Sweet Child O' Mine
10.
11.
12.

Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Monday, 26 September 2005 19:58 (eighteen years ago) link

IT'S A PHOTO FINISH

not

Banana Nutrament (ghostface), Monday, 26 September 2005 20:12 (eighteen years ago) link

its a SLOW-TO finish!

petesmith (plsmith), Monday, 26 September 2005 20:14 (eighteen years ago) link


OK, the essence of this album is one of the harder tracks. "Sweet Child O' Mine" may be one of their best known singles, but it's not representative - and though it's not bad, it's overrated.

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2. It's So Easy
3. Nightrain
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Ha ha ha, you're so dud! (wetmink2), Monday, 26 September 2005 20:37 (eighteen years ago) link

ahh, neither of the remaining tracks are representative of the album - Sweet Child, I'd argue, was

Banana Nutrament (ghostface), Monday, 26 September 2005 20:54 (eighteen years ago) link

(I already voted, but: "It's So Easy" at least has the virtue of compressing all of Axl & Slash's starry-eyed NY Dolls worship into a single track, while "Nightrain" is just a piece of shit)

Banana Nutrament (ghostface), Monday, 26 September 2005 20:56 (eighteen years ago) link

Jungle is obviously the essence of this record, but rules are rules. Somebody hurry up and finish this one off.

kornrulez6969 (TCBeing), Monday, 26 September 2005 21:20 (eighteen years ago) link

Whatever...

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2. It's So Easy
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Lets do Robyn

1. Who's That Girl
2. Handle Me
3. Robotboy
4. Be Mine!
5. Crash And Burn Girl
6. Konichiwa Bitches
7. Bum Like You
8. Eclipse
9. Should Have Known
10. Anytime You Like

Robotboy bugs me, na na na na na na

1. Who's That Girl
2. Handle Me
3.
4. Be Mine!
5. Crash And Burn Girl
6. Konichiwa Bitches
7. Bum Like You
8. Eclipse
9. Should Have Known
10. Anytime You Like

Laney, Monday, 26 September 2005 21:24 (eighteen years ago) link

this game is great... (i even check it from home...).
the results are surprising.
i think we should make a "ILM essence" compilation of all the essential tracks voted at some point... and make a thread about it (of course, all the people who haven't participate would disagree, there would be names, there would be violence, people would call other people rockist, racist, homophobe, nazis... wouldn't it be nice ?)

AleXTC (AleXTC), Monday, 26 September 2005 21:39 (eighteen years ago) link

Eclipse is totally the most disposable track

1. Who's That Girl
2. Handle Me
3.
4. Be Mine!
5. Crash And Burn Girl
6. Konichiwa Bitches
7. Bum Like You
8.
9. Should Have Known
10. Anytime You Like

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 26 September 2005 21:43 (eighteen years ago) link

Fuck. Only one I know on this is Konichiwa Bitches. Which may be the essense, though I don't know... (And I'm still smarting that 11:59 lost out...)

js (honestengine), Monday, 26 September 2005 21:53 (eighteen years ago) link

this game is great...

until it's an album you've never heard of...

jed_ (jed), Monday, 26 September 2005 22:24 (eighteen years ago) link

...or an album you don't give a sh*t about (there have been a couple. I have sat those rounds out.)

Declan Zimmerman (Declan Zimmerman), Monday, 26 September 2005 22:32 (eighteen years ago) link

Maybe there could be two albums on the go at once.

(I mean, actually, there are! Nobody ever decided the last two on the Police one, and also everybody agreed to ignore David Sylvian - so there may even be three!)

I think finding the essence of Robyn is a noble and worthwhile cause but frankly it's going to take a while especially as most of the people who like her are sleeping in Europe right now.

Tom (Groke), Monday, 26 September 2005 22:40 (eighteen years ago) link

"the pure essence of an album"

T.S. Eliot, Allen Tate, Yvor Winters, and M.H. Abrams to thread.

Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Monday, 26 September 2005 22:41 (eighteen years ago) link

"Should Have Known" is also on Robyn's 2002 album so it IS NOT ESSENCE AND SUCH GOES, even if it's not the same recording. (I have come to appreciate "Konichiwa Bitches" now as a kind of insane halfway point between Moloko's "Fun For Me" and Missy Elliott's "Work It" but "Crash And Burn Girl" is still the buried gem on this "record").

1. Who's That Girl
2. Handle Me
3.
4. Be Mine!
5. Crash And Burn Girl
6. Konichiwa Bitches
7. Bum Like You
8.
9.
10. Anytime You Like

edward o (edwardo), Monday, 26 September 2005 22:44 (eighteen years ago) link

the others are a lot better

1.
2. Handle Me
3.
4. Be Mine!
5. Crash And Burn Girl
6. Konichiwa Bitches
7. Bum Like You
8.
9.
10. Anytime You Like

RJG (RJG), Monday, 26 September 2005 22:52 (eighteen years ago) link

T.S. Eliot, Allen Tate, Yvor Winters, and M.H. Abrams to thread.

"...while the vinyl is spread out against the sky like a patient etherized upon a table."

Tom, I agree Robyn is a worthy cause, and when those people wake up I'll return to find we're on something entirely different. That's the beauty of it too.

Declan Zimmerman (Declan Zimmerman), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 00:21 (eighteen years ago) link

Can we do a Puressence album next?

edward o (edwardo), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 04:27 (eighteen years ago) link

Konichiwa bitches is fun, but this is really NOT the essence of this album...

1.
2. Handle Me
3.
4. Be Mine!
5. Crash And Burn Girl
6.
7. Bum Like You
8.
9.
10. Anytime You Like

Arnault (arc73hk), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 06:53 (eighteen years ago) link

"Think About You" totally is one of my favourite tracks from Appetite! As if "It's So Easy" came out as the winner!

Sundar (sundar), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 07:14 (eighteen years ago) link

At the end of the album I always wish it was the beginning again.

(OMG, these remaining songs are all so good; christ this is a great record.)

1.
2. Handle Me
3.
4. Be Mine!
5. Crash And Burn Girl
6.
7. Bum Like You
8.
9.
10.

sean gramophone (Sean M), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 07:57 (eighteen years ago) link

1.
2. Handle Me
3.
4.
5. Crash And Burn Girl
6.
7. Bum Like You
8.
9.
10.

One of those records where the big single doesn't capture the odd essence - and besides, "Be Mine!" doesn't do it for me like it seems to for some of you.

Tom (Groke), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 08:19 (eighteen years ago) link

hum... it's not moved a lot since i went to sleep...
can't help on this one.

AleXTC (AleXTC), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 09:00 (eighteen years ago) link

I don't believe that she's as accepting as she makes herself out to be in "Bum Like You" - it's out.

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2. Handle Me
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5. Crash And Burn Girl
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Gregory T (tubesocks), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 11:37 (eighteen years ago) link

I like "Crash And Burn Girl" better, but it's just not the essence. Let's go with Handle Me.

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2. Handle Me
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Since I swiped mindinrewind's new album privlidges previously, someone else can take a shot.

EppyIsNoLongerWaitingForGas, Tuesday, 27 September 2005 12:34 (eighteen years ago) link

OK, how about Low - what single track could be the essence of an album with two completely different sides?

1. Speed Of Life (2:45)
2. Breaking Glass (1:42)
3. What In The World (2:20)
4. Sound and Vision (3:00)
5. Always Crashing In The Same Car (3:26)
6. Be My Wife (2:55)
7. A New Career In A New Town (2:50)
8. Warszawa (6:17)
9. Art Decade (3:43)
10. Weeping Wall (3:25)
11. Subterraneans (5:37)

jz, Tuesday, 27 September 2005 12:40 (eighteen years ago) link

Kinda left-field but worth doing I think: Scarface's The Fix

1. The Fix
2. Safe
3. In Cold Blood
4. Guess Who's Back
5. On My Block
6. Keep Me Down.
7. What Can I Do?
8. In Between Us
9. Someday
10. Sellout
11. Heaven
12. I Ain't the One
13. Fixed

ahh xpost!

Banana Nutrament (ghostface), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 12:41 (eighteen years ago) link

We can keep both going.

jz, Tuesday, 27 September 2005 12:42 (eighteen years ago) link

1. Speed Of Life (2:45)
2. Breaking Glass (1:42)
3. What In The World (2:20)
4. Sound and Vision (3:00)
5. Always Crashing In The Same Car (3:26)
6. Be My Wife (2:55)
7. A New Career In A New Town (2:50)
8. Warszawa (6:17)
9. Art Decade (3:43)
10.
11. Subterraneans (5:37)

I adore all the pop side and wouldn't lose any of it, whereas elements of the second side (which I also love) feel more or less interchangeable, so I picked "Weeping Wall" almost at random.

It's an interesting pick this because the two side 1 instrumentals might be considered both disposable and also the gap-bridgers, hence essential. If I had to pick an 'essence' "New Career" might be it.

Tom (Groke), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 12:45 (eighteen years ago) link

Actually I do think Weeping Wall is the weakest track on the album, it's a little too derivative of Steve Reich et al. (I still like it though.)

jz, Tuesday, 27 September 2005 12:49 (eighteen years ago) link

Be My Wife goes - *slightly* 'old Bowie' in the context of this album

1. Speed Of Life (2:45)
2. Breaking Glass (1:42)
3. What In The World (2:20)
4. Sound and Vision (3:00)
5. Always Crashing In The Same Car (3:26)
6.
7. A New Career In A New Town (2:50)
8. Warszawa (6:17)
9. Art Decade (3:43)
10.
11. Subterraneans (5:37)

Dr. C (Dr. C), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 12:49 (eighteen years ago) link

1. Speed Of Life (2:45)
2.
3. What In The World (2:20)
4. Sound and Vision (3:00)
5. Always Crashing In The Same Car (3:26)
6. Be My Wife (2:55)
7. A New Career In A New Town (2:50)
8. Warszawa (6:17)
9. Art Decade (3:43)
10.
11. Subterraneans (5:37)

I am gonna refrain from being a big meany: I've always disliked side 2 of Low and think it's a huge disappointment; I don't think the two sides belong together at all. So, I am abstaining from side 2. Side 1, on the other hand, is a masterpiece, and considerably more sentimental than a still-coked-up-near-sunrise collection oughta be. Except "Breaking Glass," which is cute but gimmicky, and while the album is largely about various moods in contrast, this one's not the center. Peace out, "Breaking Glass."

Banana Nutrament (ghostface), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 12:49 (eighteen years ago) link

x-post, "Be My Wife" now gone so we got:

1. Speed Of Life (2:45)

3. What In The World (2:20)
4. Sound and Vision (3:00)
5. Always Crashing In The Same Car (3:26)
6.
7. A New Career In A New Town (2:50)
8. Warszawa (6:17)
9. Art Decade (3:43)
10.
11. Subterraneans (5:37)

Banana Nutrament (ghostface), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 12:50 (eighteen years ago) link

I like this thread so much I have used my mod powers for good and summarised the results in the title post.

Tom (Groke), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 12:55 (eighteen years ago) link

I'll take out Art Decade. Gorgeous track, but rather stately and not weirdly skewed enough to be the essence.

1. Speed Of Life (2:45)

3. What In The World (2:20)
4. Sound and Vision (3:00)
5. Always Crashing In The Same Car (3:26)
6.
7. A New Career In A New Town (2:50)
8. Warszawa (6:17)
9.
10.
11. Subterraneans (5:37)

jz, Tuesday, 27 September 2005 12:56 (eighteen years ago) link

I was gonna lose "Art Decade" cos I'm a side 1 kinda guy too, so I guess it'll have to be:

1. Speed Of Life (2:45)

3. What In The World (2:20)
4. Sound and Vision (3:00)
5. Always Crashing In The Same Car (3:26)
6.
7. A New Career In A New Town (2:50)
8.
9.
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11. Subterraneans (5:37)

Don King of the Mountain (noodle vague), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 12:58 (eighteen years ago) link

That takes care of Side 2.

1. Speed Of Life (2:45)

3. What In The World (2:20)
4. Sound and Vision (3:00)
5. Always Crashing In The Same Car (3:26)
6.
7. A New Career In A New Town (2:50)
8.
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10.
11.

kornrulez6969 (TCBeing), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 13:01 (eighteen years ago) link

Dammit, I was going to exclude "Weeping Wall" as well. ("Breaking Glass", on the other hand, is as Essence as it gets for me. In fact, it's so short that it's practically pure distilled Essence.)

Then I was going to exclude "Be My Wife", but got beaten to it again. DAMN!

Then it was going to be "Subterraneans", but I could't demolish Side 2.

So now it's going to be "Sound And Vision", because it's the one tgrack which has an independent life above and beyond Low. ie. when I hear it, I don't think Low.

1. Speed Of Life (2:45)
2.
3. What In The World (2:20)
4.
5. Always Crashing In The Same Car (3:26)
6.
7. A New Career In A New Town (2:50)
8.
9.
10.
11.

mike t-diva (mike t-diva), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 13:02 (eighteen years ago) link

Poor old side 2 :(

Tom (Groke), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 13:03 (eighteen years ago) link


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