dumbest music journalist term

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"An editor of mine recently banned quoting lyrics from reviews."
A man (woman) after my own heart (sigh). I wanted to do this too but couldn't get away w/it.

lovebug starski (lovebug starski), Monday, 30 August 2004 23:24 (nineteen years ago) link

"accessible"

pinder (pinder), Monday, 30 August 2004 23:42 (nineteen years ago) link

criminally underrated

mentalist (mentalist), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 05:45 (nineteen years ago) link

Uncutesque

Not David Peschek, Tuesday, 31 August 2004 05:54 (nineteen years ago) link

"Unutterable sadness"

Huck, Tuesday, 31 August 2004 13:47 (nineteen years ago) link

haha that's it, there are no more words! all music critique from now on will consist of clicks, whistles and the sound of someone pressing play on the CD player containing the record being reviewed. Can we go home now?

CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 15:46 (nineteen years ago) link

though surely debated to death in the past, I can't believe iI got all the way down this thread without someone mentioning "intelligent jungle." a classic dumb journalism expression...

martin (martin), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 17:23 (nineteen years ago) link

"Shimmering" always bugged me, as it seems overused.

Thea (Thea), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 17:33 (nineteen years ago) link

Ah yes. I hate "shimmering"; I understand its use when it means "trebly and reverbed/delayed" but then people talk about "shimmering vocal harmonies", which is insane.

joseph cotten (joseph cotten), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 17:37 (nineteen years ago) link

But what if the vocal harmonies glisten and shimmer like the reflection of early morning light on the surface of a placid body of water like a lake or a pond or a lagoon? What then?

scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 18:17 (nineteen years ago) link

they can't really be perfectly harmonious if they do that, though - that's just your basic polyphony.

Monetizing Eyeballs (diamond), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 18:51 (nineteen years ago) link

On a previous thread like this, Frank Kogan issued fatwa vs."we" (as in "when we hear them do this, we know it's as good as it gets"), and I agree with him on that, but when he also tried to ban "angular," he went too far! Some things *are* angular dammit (some things are also we, but not so's the reviewer can hide behind with his stupid claims.) Speaking of the latter, Christgau and Marcus are not bad writers, except when they trash something in passing, without presenting evidence, cos oops time to go on to next item (Real Life Top Ten can be especially irritating, in fact, that's mainly what I'm thinking of, more than Christgau's passing poo).What about "feels": it;s meant to be x, but it feels like y"; why not "seems," are you so snesitive, are your feelinggs so sacrosanct I won't dare challenge your judgement if you get invoke the sensitive sincerity of your sensibilty?Sanctuary! Also, "think": "He was a protege, but now he's an ungrateful lil bastard.(Think Chingy." No, I think I got it, I think I don't need to be told when and what to think, thank you. Mostly (?) in his 70s Guide, Christgau used "Skewed" and "sprung' to mean what(I think) Peter M. means by "off-kilter dynamics." Felching, as expalined to me back in the 70s, does indeed consist of Mr. 22's third line of credit (above). I never thought of applying it to music, h'mmm

Don, Wednesday, 1 September 2004 01:57 (nineteen years ago) link

Forward looking.

(= has sythesizers)

Curt (cgould), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 02:07 (nineteen years ago) link

i just found randomly found this pitchfork article. similar approach as were taking but i dont think the resulting piece is very successful. its kind of annoying actually.
http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/record-reviews/s/shipping-news/very-soon-and-in-pleasant-company.shtml

tom cleveland (tom cleveland), Thursday, 2 September 2004 03:26 (nineteen years ago) link

(Typos are bad too, sorry). Arguably."They are arguably the best band of the moment." Aguably not, too. Also, the bigger the hype, the more noticable the "discreet" qualifier: "They may be the best fucking band in the universe." However, for some reason,"they just may be" is for some reason more acceptible! Like the writer is truly eyeing a fixation, but trying to maintain sense of balance (one shiny little "just" and I'm distracted from the kill)

Don, Thursday, 2 September 2004 04:18 (nineteen years ago) link

'songsmith'

mei (mei), Thursday, 2 September 2004 14:38 (nineteen years ago) link

'tuneage'

mei (mei), Thursday, 2 September 2004 14:38 (nineteen years ago) link

'off-kilter'

mei (mei), Thursday, 2 September 2004 14:41 (nineteen years ago) link

'jangly guitar'

I mean, WTF does that _mean_?

mei (mei), Thursday, 2 September 2004 14:42 (nineteen years ago) link

Well, that one actually means something. "Jangly guitar" traditionally refers to a Fender or Rickenbacker, most likely at the neck-pickup setting, played through a tube. When talking about jangle, people usually mean a guitar that sounds like the Byrds or R.E.M. (on the higher-fi end of the spectrum) or like the Velvets' quieter stuff (on the lower-fi end). In this case, I believe, it's not the term that's overused but the actual sound.

joseph cotten (joseph cotten), Thursday, 2 September 2004 14:50 (nineteen years ago) link

Ta!

:-)

mei (mei), Thursday, 2 September 2004 14:53 (nineteen years ago) link

"Fucked up"

mei (mei), Thursday, 2 September 2004 14:53 (nineteen years ago) link

"Shit hot"

mei (mei), Thursday, 2 September 2004 14:53 (nineteen years ago) link

"Eclecticism"

mei (mei), Thursday, 2 September 2004 14:53 (nineteen years ago) link

"influenced"

mei (mei), Thursday, 2 September 2004 14:54 (nineteen years ago) link

"real"

mei (mei), Thursday, 2 September 2004 14:54 (nineteen years ago) link

"authentic"

mei (mei), Thursday, 2 September 2004 14:54 (nineteen years ago) link

"hot"

mei (mei), Thursday, 2 September 2004 14:54 (nineteen years ago) link

"skull crushing"

mei (mei), Thursday, 2 September 2004 14:54 (nineteen years ago) link

"noise" (when it's not noise they're talking about)

mei (mei), Thursday, 2 September 2004 14:54 (nineteen years ago) link

Hey, let's count 'em in this gem of a sentence (the opening paragraph of an article from a neighboring thread):

Destined to live high on the hog by way of Talking Heads royalties until the day he dies, the adventurous quirkmeister has been nothing but ballsy since his seminal new-wave outfit parted ways."

joseph cotten (joseph cotten), Thursday, 2 September 2004 15:02 (nineteen years ago) link

"quirkmeister"

mei (mei), Thursday, 2 September 2004 15:07 (nineteen years ago) link

don't forget "seminal" "outfit"

joseph cotten (joseph cotten), Thursday, 2 September 2004 15:15 (nineteen years ago) link

is that what depp wore in that one scene in Fear and Loathing?

Sterling Clover (s_clover), Thursday, 2 September 2004 17:20 (nineteen years ago) link

But to reject a certain term altogether is to surrender it to the dumpster-diving enemy. ("When you pass a market, and say,'Man I'm starvin',' shut up! Jump in the dumpster, and just start carvin'." Charles Manson sang that.)Such words should be spirited awy for re-programming, re-cycling, but *not* via the dumpster!

Don, Thursday, 2 September 2004 21:16 (nineteen years ago) link

I cannot believe that no post has yet mentioned the phrase "solid effort" ...!

kjoerup, Friday, 3 September 2004 14:34 (nineteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...
Funny. No one's mentioned "[Y] is the new [X]."

Hate.

babyalive (babyalive), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 22:49 (nineteen years ago) link

Alright, judging by the length of this thread, it's obviously time for some post-modernist rock-crit action -- take cliched terms and build them into something new: jangly + angular = jangular

st. uber, Wednesday, 22 September 2004 01:27 (nineteen years ago) link

archetypal jangly angular music that grabs everyone by the throat: Jungular

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Wednesday, 22 September 2004 02:10 (nineteen years ago) link

...backed by clattering 180bpm rhythms, of course.

st. uber, Wednesday, 22 September 2004 04:59 (nineteen years ago) link

...and emanating from our collective unconscious.

oops (Oops), Wednesday, 22 September 2004 05:01 (nineteen years ago) link

I put in "archetypal" and "everyone" cos I thought collective unconscious would stretch it a bit...

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Wednesday, 22 September 2004 05:23 (nineteen years ago) link

"braggadocio"

peter $.., Thursday, 23 September 2004 18:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Diamond Dave > Sammy Hagar, fight new wars please!

Huk-L, Thursday, 23 September 2004 18:03 (nineteen years ago) link

"Atmospheric" (ARGGHHH!!!! WHAT IS IT SUPPOSED TO MEAN????)

Also, when the word "Pop" is used to describe anything that's not really in the commercial mainstream right now.

Hurting, Friday, 24 September 2004 03:35 (nineteen years ago) link

one year passes...
"poor man's Radiohead"

cracker killer (crackerkiller), Saturday, 1 July 2006 20:08 (eighteen years ago) link

"keybs"

I will commence to drop a knowledge bomb. (Rock Hardy), Saturday, 1 July 2006 20:23 (eighteen years ago) link

sounds like ___________ on acid

pffft. really old but perennial and woeful, natch .

see other thread *burp*

drunken (beeble), Saturday, 1 July 2006 20:42 (eighteen years ago) link

socially conscious (see: dero)

s blaze (conrad), Saturday, 1 July 2006 20:46 (eighteen years ago) link

"Americana" is badly abused by BRITISH journalists. They would
consign rock with any hint of country to the ghetto of "Americana,"
as if ALL of rock's major moves were invented here, anyway.

Squirrel_Police (Squirrel_Police), Saturday, 1 July 2006 20:51 (eighteen years ago) link


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