I have had it up to here waiting for the Beatles catalogue to be remastered

Also it looks like as soon as John got back into the studio, Paul was drilling everyone into turning "Maxwell's Silver Hammer" into the next "Ob-La-Di, Ob-La-Da", so I would guess that song curbed John's lack of interest more than anything.

This was the reason they split, according to Lennon. Macca was all "those wedding bells are breaking up that old gang of mine" which is why they might not have been as close in the latter days, but Lennon not wanting to do the McCartney songs he didn't personally like (without saying they had no merit) seems the truest reflection.

Apaprently, his bass playing was always really bad.

That version of Long And Winding Road was, for all intents and purposes, a rehearsal take. Ian MacDonald basically accuses Lennon of sabotage by passing it off as finished work, especially since Paul was around to overdub a decent bassline (I don't think they'd broken up just yet when Lennon got Spector in to assemble Let It Be).

From everything I've read, John must have been a 100% insufferable douchebag to be around by the end. I mean, in a way I guess they all were. But I remember being struck by that when I was reading 'Can't Buy Me Love'.

This is brilliant:

http://www.dangerousminds.net/comments/deconstructing_helter_skelter/

Paul's voice!

^^^!!!!!!!

Really cool!

biggest marvel is really the editing. insane how much they chopped together on four tracks

neato. and apparently that's another example of lennon on bass. he had ideas!

haha oh man that bassline is so retarded

yeah, lennon seemed to think playing bass was kind of hilarious, i guess? maybe being dumb on bass is the only thing to do when mccartney is in your band.

I'm actually crying, real tears of hilarity over that bassline!

Generalizing, that sounds exactly like what happens when a rhythm guitarist picks up a bass in the studio and takes a crack at it.

"Hey, Paul! This is easy!" *cronk cronk cronk, grum grum grum*

it's demonstrably worse than that, Lennon's barely even keeping time, much less actually, y'know, playing notes with a decent tone

Lennon's sloppy playing is just what the song needs though. I'd be surprised if McCartney didn't arrange it like this on purpose.

I dunno. I kinda understand now why McCartney snuck off and did "Why Don't We Do It In The Road?" by himself.

I'd be surprised if McCartney didn't arrange it like this on purpose.

wouldn't exactly jibe with McCartney's annoyingly perfectionist rep

iirc the whole point of helter skelter for mccartney was to make the nastiest, meanest sounding song they possibly could, after he was disappointed by the who's I Can See For Miles and Miles.

I think Lennon's part works in context though. McCartney would have easily re-recorded that bassline if he wanted to. But yeah, it does help illustrate why Paul became such a control freak.

paul: "Umm, that came about just 'cause I'd read a review of a record which said, 'and this group really got us wild, there's echo on everything, they're screaming their heads off.' And I just remember thinking, 'Oh, it'd be great to do one. Pity they've done it. Must be great — really screaming record.' And then I heard their record and it was quite straight, and it was very sort of sophisticated. It wasn't rough and screaming and tape echo at all. So I thought, 'Oh well, we'll do one like that, then.' And I had this song called "Helter Skelter," which is just a ridiculous song. So we did it like that, 'cuz I like noise."

paul mccartney -- original noise dude

lol

Oh i loooooove the sound of that bass.

the dude was on acid and heroin every day for like ten years straight. that bass is pretty fuckin' punk rock. everything about that song is glorious though.

Apple couldn't be more annoying with this Apple/Apple deal. My local Apple shop was drenched in Beatles shit the other day. Abbey Road coming out the speakers at only-child volume (not that I mind necessarily), Beatles-specific gift cards, employees with the Abbey Road cover attached to their name tags etc etc. Jobso must have paid a bloody fortune for this thing.

they recorded that song a couple of weeks before i was born. i think i heard it in the womb. i had to come out. that song is literally yero zero for me. its a big influence on me in a non-stabbing non-killing way.

so *you're* the fifth beatle

Fifth fetal Beatle

Fetle

Featle, I mean

I Wanna Hold Your Placenta

Euuugh!

so great, loving john's bass here. highly recommend clicking the link to a similar breakdown of 'gimme shelter'. would love to see scorsese use just 'gimme shelter' tracks to score a movie someday - it is his destiny.

The Beatles "Hey Jude" UNSURPASSED PROMO'S EDIT

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBmjgMNchmM&feature=player_embedded

that clip sure does make me want to get the rest of this ere Unsurpassed Promos collection. is there a track list online?

does this clip show the first ever stage invasion? another 'Beatles first'?

This is the track listing available at

All tracks are mimed performances, except (*), the Let It Be stuff and some of the later 'concept' films. Sound is remastered mono except (=) which are stereo. Tracks marked (+) have two audio options. More information will be included in the released material

TOUR YEARS Disc 1
Love Me Do
Please Please Me *
Twist And Shout
From Me To You
She Loves You
I'll Get You
Money
This Boy
I Want To Hold Your Hand
All My Loving
I Wanna Be Your Man
'Till There Was You
Please Mr Postman
It Won't Be Long
You Can't Do That
Can't Buy Me Love
Roll Over Beethoven +
Long Tall Sally +
A Hard Day's Night *
And I Love Her +
I'm Happy Just To Dance With You
If I Fell
I Should have Known Better
Tell Me Why
I Feel Fine
She's A Woman
Baby's In Black
Kansas City
She's A Woman
I'm A Loser
Rock And Roll Music
Bonus Track

TOUR YEARS Disc 2
Help! +
You're Gonna Lose That Girl
You've Got To Hide Your Love Away
I Need You
The Night Before
Another Girl
Ticket To Ride +
I Feel Fine version 1 and 2 +
Help! +
We Can Work It Out versions 1 and 2 +
Day Tripper version 1 +
We Can Work It Out version 3 +
Day Tripper version 3 +
Paperback Writer/Rain (colour, with intro) +
Paperbacks writer (monochrome) versions 1-3 +
Rain (monochrome) versions 1 and 2 +
Bonus Tracks x 3 +
5.1 Slideshow

STUDIO YEARS Disc 3
Paperback Writer film
Rain film
Penny Lane
Strawberry Fields Forever
A Day In The Life
All You Need Is Love (with intro)
Hello Goodbye (version 1: pepper suits)
Hello Goodbye (version 2: hippie clothes)
The Fool On The Hill
I Am The Walrus
Blue Jay Way
Your Mother Should Know
Hello Goodbye (version 3 - crazy outtakes)
Hey Bulldog
Lady Madonna (alternate)
Lady Madonna (original)
Revolution versions 1 and 2
Bonus Track

STUDIO YEARS Disc 4
Hey Jude versions 1-3 (with intro)
Two Of Us =
Let It Be =
The Long And Winding Road =
Get Back =
Don't Let Me Down =
I've Got A Feeling =
One After 909 =
Dig A Pony =
Get Back =
The Ballad Of John & Yoko =
Something =
Bonus Track =
5.1 Slideshow

Tracklisting taken from the unfortunately named Wog Blog

er, yeah. what's the story with the name, if you know? sidebar doesn't elucidate

thanks for the tracklist i couldn't see it. there were *two* Hello Goodbye promos?!

Three. One with Sgt. Pepper clothes. One with "hippie clothes". One made with outtakes/mix of the two.

Gotta say these are really good for the most part, tho tbh I've seen better versions of some of these. In particular I thought they would steal from the Anthology as much as possible to get the fully remastered versions. Also, it's kinda weird to have some of the MMT/Help! movie songs on here, even though they are available in retail form...

All that is just griping tho. It's a pretty marvelous collection!

is there anywhere you can get these in a straight up MPG form or whatever? rather than from d£m0n0!d or same. $0ulseek comes up with nothing :/

yeah it's odd that they are in .vob format and not .mp4

still happier to have them and not line Apples pockets.

mono box & final 3 stereo albums & Beatles rock band = they owe me a few freebies.

This was the reason they split, according to Lennon. Macca was all "those wedding bells are breaking up that old gang of mine" which is why they might not have been as close in the latter days, but Lennon not wanting to do the McCartney songs he didn't personally like (without saying they had no merit) seems the truest reflection.

By the time they went in the studio to do "Abbey Road", they had already more or less agreed they'd split afterwards anyway. I don't think not doing "Maxwell's Silver Hammer" would have prevented the split.

They'd already done "Maxwell" a mill times during the "Let it be" sessions.

Had they not done "Maxwell" and "Obladi", they might have carried on a bit longer. But there would have been other songs that the other band members didn't much want to do. George had a large backlog of songs the others didn't like enough.

"Maxwell's Silver Hammer" is actually IMO a better song than "Ob-La-Di, Ob-La-Da" although this may partly have to do with the use of synth.

Well, that is up to you.

OK, put it this way. Lennon comes into your session with "Cold Turkey", and you've just penned "Maxwell".

What happens next?

The best thing would be not to do any of them, or anything that sounds like any of them.
That, is, cancel "I Want You" as well....

Basically, the best thing they could do is "OK, frankly, most of the stuff we've done the past years was crap. Let's instead go back to the style we used to play in 66-67, we were much better then and we should have stayed there and not tried to change".

Dear citizens of the Beatles thread,

When I was a child my Dad had two non-classical LPs: a US pressing of "Rubber Soul" and an ELO album. Now he has no record player and a few Christmases ago he asked for "Love" (the segued remix CD) and enjoyed it a lot, so I'm thinking of buying him one of the new remasters.

Would you recommend that I buy him: a) remastered red and blue albums; b) remastered "Rubber Soul"; c) some other Beatles remaster product? (or secret option d), no more Beatles product, but whether he'd actually listen to any of them is anyone's guess)

Right, so Lennon quits your band, and the Beatles end as George and Rings don't want to carry on as the three. (xpost will read yr next in separate)

Same difference.

Also, I don't know that they had actually agreed that "Abbey Road" was to be the final record, apart from in retrospect.

Well, remastered RubSoul is not the US track listing, so..

Lennon hardly wrote a good song after 1967. Well, at least not until a couple of the ballads on the "Imagine" album.

I'd reckon the red/blue album.