Durutti Column: classic or dud

I don't have Tuesday in my iTunes. What album is it on?

I started transcribing Tomorrow, which is one of my favs, but realized that wasn't what you wanted. The lyrics are pretty clear on Tomorrow anyway.

Ah, ok, it's on Keep Breathing. I have that one on CD but haven't ripped it yet.

Tuesday - Keep Breathing - 2006

I don't mind who you're waking with this morning
it's not the ...? sounds that i hear calling
no senselessness of waking dreams still forming
it's just the fight is over
i know you've gone

i still feel you
i can feel you
i can feel you
i still feel you

so i get up,
i get on with my day
and i'm not broken up
i don't wish
and i don't pray
and if we met
there'd be nothing there to say
it's just i wish
i'd tried to make you stay

i still feel you
i can feel you
i can feel you
i still feel you

i don't wake up
expect to see your smile
and i don't mind
you've gone so many miles
and i hope that you've kept your sense of style
i just still love you
so it's gonna take a while

Tomorrow is definitely one of my faves. I've even got the 12".

Thank you very much brotherlovesdub! Anyway, You're right, the lyrics are basically clear, but there were some parts I couldn't figure out exactly... So thank you! Magical song...

classic btw

"I don't mind who you're waking with this morning
it's not the _shocking_ sounds that i hear calling..."

Maybe...

whenever i see this thread updated, i think bimble is back. and in a way he is.

Christ, he had a stroke and I didn't even hear about it. Lost use of his left hand, among other things. Still has a new album coming out though!

I only own the 2CD best-of but I may spring for more starting with this deluxe reissue of LC: http://home.wxs.nl/~frankbri/fbn10.html

awes

GREAT. And I like Another Setting even better.

His catalog is so frustrating - bonus tracks on some releases but not on the box set of the first four albums! And no odds and ends comp that gathers it all up. "Amigos" is way out of print and goes for stupid money. I really hope LTM's release is the start of a proper reissue campaign.

yes. Another Setting! thanks dan for reminding me about that record!

Yeah it's a bit messy. I had most of Amigos as tacked onto the Factory CD of Another Setting, then only years later did I realize it wasn't the whole thing and there was a separate full Amigos that I downloaded from iTunes.

A lot of the bonus stuff on this LC, I think I have on vinyl. I went through a phase where I was really avoiding "record collecting" except for buying old dance 12"s but I'd go to the WFMU record fair and only buy Durutti Column vinyl.

My prized possessions are my two Factory cassetes of DC that I bought in high school at Crazy Rhythms in Montclair, NJ. Without Mercy and Another Setting. As seen here:

http://www.discogs.com/viewimages?release=808623

I already had the Valuable Passages CD, which I later leant to someone who lost it, though I found it on vinyl years later. But that tape of Another Setting was a regular in my car for the better part of junior and senior year of high school.

I was lucky enough to discover DC in 85 so a lot of their stuff was still available either in shops or mail order. I got albums like "Amigos" and "A Factory Quartet" for about three quid each, and my first CD ever was "Valuable passages", again mail order in April 87 alongside the seven inch of "I get along with you very well". And those Factory tapes - I bought "The return of", "The graveyard and the ballroom" and "Pigs and battleships" on the same day, just after Xmas 85. I moved to Sheffield in 87 so it was a short train hop to Manchester for record shopping, picking up more of those Factory tapes and other rarities. It seemed the search was part of the fun in those days - always looking in the D section of second hand shops, finding a copy of "Deux triangles" that way in a little shop in Bristol... And then the one time I saw DC live - Manchester, 94, Peter Hook guesting on bass - Vini forgot the words to "The missing boy"!

Oh, I had "Valuable passages" on tape, one of only three double Factory tapes in those boxes, because it had "LFO MOD" on it which was unavailable otherwise in Britain (it was never issued on vinyl here, though I saw a US copy). Did you know "LFO MOD" is based around a preset of the same name on a Korg DW8000 synth? A friend had that synth and I was messing around on it and found that sound and spent the rest of the day trying to perfect how Vini plays it.

I've just bought myself the dbl cd of "Short stories for Pauline" for Xmas actually and will get "LC" as and when, I've got most of the stuff on it but to have it all in one place would be nice... Going back to "Short stories..." I bought "Homage a Duras" in 88 thinking "New Durutti tracks!" and finding those old ones, and Richard Jobson talking, and buying an obscure mail order tape in 90 which had "Snowflakes" and another song from "Pauline", and also introduced me to Sarah Records with a demo by The Wake and a song by The Orchids, and that was another obsession... God, "Snowflakes" is so perfect and desolate and beautiful.

And I've not even mentioned the music, which is some of my favourite music ever and it is so hard to describe why, and "LC" is train journeys over the Pennines at dusk and "Another setting" is just endlessly sublime, those long sustained feedbacking guitar notes on "Spent time" send shivers down my spine. And I'm not even going to try "All that love and maths can do", my favourite piece of music ever. Magical stuff, all the way. Sorry for rambling but I love Durutti Column so much.

Just reading the thread back and I ramble at the start too (and mention the 94 gig), so I've been rambling about DC for ten years on ILM.

Re the "Hannett" tracks:

Obviously, he produced the first album, those tracks on "A Factory Quartet" being the last he produced? Would they make sense being grouped together?

And what is missing from this list of "DC/MH" plz:
2 tracks from "A Factory Sample"
"The Return Of"
Tracks from "A Factory Quartet"

ta.

There's also the two tracks on the Benelux single "Lips that would kiss" / "Madeleine" which he produced for DC.

Triffic.

So, all I'm missing (myself) is the Factory Quartet, and the one 'bonus' track on the 2nd pressing of the "Return" LP.

Ha, I was about to reply regarding the bonus track on "The return of..." too. Going to check which version(s) I've got now.

Don't apologise, Rob M - I love reading people ramble about Durutti Column!

This is the version of LC that I've got:

http://www.discogs.com/Durutti-Column-LC/release/130191

Around 8 CDs were reissued on Factory Once with bonus tracks but are now out of print. I need to work out if all the bonus material on the forthcoming 2cd set has already been released on the Factory Once versions.

Away to stick LC on the stereo now.

DC had the best coloured Factory hessian cassette boxes.

Only just looked closely at the track listing of the new LC reissue, it seems very comprehensive of tracks from that era, so it's got the demos which were on the "Four Factory Records" 6 cd set, plus hard to track down things like "Party" and "The eye and the hand" from Crepescule comps, and all the EPs of that era like "Deux triangles". Has it got "Weakness and fever" on it? Yes, looks very very good, because some of those tracks are very hard to get these days. Nice. I've bought "LC" on vinyl, then the boxed cassette, then as part of the FACD224 4 cd set, then the Factory Once issue you have, then that 6 cd set then this new issue next year... God, six times then?

Ah, if you have that FACD224 4CD box set, you have the 'bonus' "Return" track, apparently it's the only CD that has it.

This is a bit of a weird admission, but I still dream from time to time about the Factory boxed cassettes - that I'm in a record shop and there's a whole load of them, in the right colours for the artists and the right fonts and everything. Haven't had that dream for a while, but it happens every year or so.

Are they for albums you do not own, or ones that don't even exist?

I love those boxes. I need the Quando Quango, Wim Mertens and the ACR ones. They are probably directly to blame for me developing a collector mentality as a teenager.

http://rocketsandrayguns.tumblr.com/image/33616461699

Not mine unfortunately

http://rocketsandrayguns.tumblr.com/image/33616461699 if the image isn't showing

Yes Mark I have that bonus song it's also on one of the extra discs on the 6 cd set of the first four albums. Totally freaked me out the first time I played the cd, was expecting the quiet guitar piece I knew from my tape and then the drums and bass crash in. Of course in those pre internet days I just thought it was a mistake.

Yes, the dreams are about tapes that don't exist. I sold a lot of my tapes on ebay years ago, only have the DC and Quando and Railway Children ones left now, sold my Wim Mertens one for £190!

On a side point, why is the written track listing for "Another setting" in the wrong order on both the FACD 224 set and the Factory Once reissue? Anyone know?

That picture of the tapes looked like my shelf once upon a time. :(

Talking of Factory boxed cassettes that don't exist have you seen this?

http://www.cerysmaticfactory.info/fact24c_a_factory_quartet_boxed_cassette.html

That's very cool, I believe the Wim Mertens one is the most sought after box.

Hard to find any clean New Order ones too.

I have the 'Substance' one, two tapes yes.

My Railway Children tape is sadly a little worse for wear, having had a sachet of soy sauce from a Pot Noodle dropped on it in my student days. That pic of Fact 24c is like a dream come true, literally!

"Substance" boxed tape only available in Woolworths, iirc. Paid a fiver for it on the day of release.

I loved those cassette boxes, along with the artwork it was a big part of what made gathering JD/NO releases very special.

The only time I saw something similar to the Factory boxes was a Heaven 17 boxed tape of their remixes which was around the same time, 86 or 87, will have to google it - so someone somewhere at Virgin saw the Fac boxes and thought "Great idea, let's try it too!"

Another Setting basically lives on my turntable.

For Rob M and everyone else

http://site.politecards.com/collections/postcard-box-sets/products/factory-records-postcard-set

http://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0006/3322/products/Factory_1024x1024.jpg?83

Oh that's just pushing my buttons like crazy.

Not sure what to make of this:

http://www.twitlonger.com/show/kilgkg

I'd pay a large fee to see him live. Wish he'd take the Leonard Cohen route and tour for money.

I think his health is a big issue at the moment - much as I'd love to see him tour regularly I can't see it happening. I'm a member of the DC group on Facebook and he's really struggling for money at the moment, selling headphones and other things - sad that he has to do that sort of thing, he has got good support around him but it makes you wonder how much Tony Wilson protected him from the real world over the years. This is my own assumption and not based on any knowledge.

On a lighter note, those postcards look great. And the reissue of "Short stories for Pauline" is essential stuff. Yes, I've got it al elsewhere but it's great to have it in one place.

you'd think maybe Morrissey would throw him a few quid.

^ That crossed my mind.

I guess the request seemed a) sad (on many levels) and b) unlikely to resolve anything.

To be fair, don't know any of his personal circumstances.