Afro-Latin Music Thread 2010: La Resurrección (salsa, merengue, bachata, reggaeton, cumbia, etc.)

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doubt i'll even try it but awesome cover

fauxmarc, Sunday, 5 December 2010 18:54 (thirteen years ago) link

I was listening to this mix and I was like: how do they make that squeaky sound like it's coming behind me when I am just playing this on cheap PC speakers? Then I realized it was my chair squeaking as I jiggled my leg.

_Rudipherous_, Monday, 6 December 2010 03:57 (thirteen years ago) link

Some of these mixes use a lot of what sounds like Afro-Cuban orisha song samples, even though there isn't necessarily much else that is Cuban about the music. That's fine with me since I like that sound and at the same time can't necessarily listen to a ton of the pure stuff at one time.

bourgeoistech bourgeoisthèque (_Rudipherous_), Monday, 6 December 2010 04:37 (thirteen years ago) link

The Calle 13 is a very good album. Might still like the Shakira record more, it's like Zen compared with everything else I love this year though.

T Bone Streep (Cave17Matt), Monday, 6 December 2010 07:03 (thirteen years ago) link

I think the Calle 13 is pretty good, still a bit uneven but probably their most consistent album so far.

What do you think of 3BallMTY=tribal guarachero?

bourgeoistech bourgeoisthèque (_Rudipherous_), Monday, 6 December 2010 15:21 (thirteen years ago) link

chico ye's tikal mixtape (cumbia/reggaeton/pre-hispanic)

cero39 - cumbia anti
sonido de la frontera - mariposa (dub)
chancha via circuito - con la misma moneda
chico ye - la primorosa
julio voltio - edit
dj morphius - para que la pista
chico ye - reggaeton rhythm trax 1
sonido rampage y nader - crazie
frikstailers - kalise
los macuanos - erick rincon remix
manuel palafox - tumbao
dj retro - prehispanik drum
dj javier estrada - mitotiani youaltika

fauxmarc, Monday, 6 December 2010 18:55 (thirteen years ago) link

pre-hispanic?

Is there also post-Hispanic?

Not trying to be snarky, the opposite actually, what does pre-Hispanic mean?

curmudgeon, Monday, 6 December 2010 19:08 (thirteen years ago) link

i was just copying the arbitrary genre tag verbatim but i believe in general it ends up being a reference to tribal guarachero, earlier on it was called "tribal pre-hispanic", referencing the particular types of flutes and chants and drums used.

fauxmarc, Monday, 6 December 2010 19:20 (thirteen years ago) link

Pre-Hispanic: before Spanish conquest. There are often token samples of indigenous music in this stuff.

bourgeoistech bourgeoisthèque (_Rudipherous_), Monday, 6 December 2010 21:55 (thirteen years ago) link

i love that mentioning indigenous music and native and pre-colonialism etc was completely skipped in my description

fauxmarc, Monday, 6 December 2010 22:26 (thirteen years ago) link

Thanks guys. I should have figured that out on my own

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 7 December 2010 13:52 (thirteen years ago) link

Speaking of pre-colonialism, Ned Sublette discussed slavery and Cuba and the US yesterday in the fascinating hour panel at George Mason with Kip Hanrahan and DC dj Jim Byers. They jumped around from discussing Cuban jazz guys in NYC now like Dafnis Prieto to historical differences between African-American and Cuban musical approaches to prejudices against Puerto Rican artists to basic stuff about mambo versus salsa to musicologist details and anecdotes about Chano Pozo and Joe Cuba and the Gonzalez Brothers and Dizzy Gillespie and Cuban religious practices and religious drumming post-Castro in Cuba versus Cuban exiles and us versus them attitudes in the South Bronx and crossover pop...Those are just a few things touched upon.

Alas, they had no time to discuss salsa 2010 or what these folks think of current club styles or bachata or merengue or street mambo...

Orchesta Leyenda, a DC band, performed afterwards and as usual I jealously watched some of the impressive dancers who looked so sharp yet relaxed. They make it look so easy.

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 7 December 2010 14:46 (thirteen years ago) link

Rudiph, that Daddy Yankee release is growing on me.

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 7 December 2010 15:44 (thirteen years ago) link

tail end of (sweden?)'s dj emil + others' show boomshakalaka is on here

fauxmarc, Tuesday, 7 December 2010 17:02 (thirteen years ago) link

aw that might be it actually. when i tuned in some nice bachata i'd never heard was on but now it's gone dubstep.

fauxmarc, Tuesday, 7 December 2010 17:04 (thirteen years ago) link

uploaded to mixcloud here

fauxmarc, Tuesday, 7 December 2010 18:56 (thirteen years ago) link

Erick Rincon's "Manos Arriba 2.0" is pretty damn good.

bourgeoistech bourgeoisthèque (_Rudipherous_), Wednesday, 8 December 2010 05:16 (thirteen years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4IoXKOKFjsE

I realize that I'm stretching my own thread boundaries a bit here, but this is definitely Latin and it feels Afro-Latin to me. (I was just doing a search and apparently Lex mentioned this earlier this year in one of his quarterly reports, so hats off.)

bourgeoistech bourgeoisthèque (_Rudipherous_), Wednesday, 8 December 2010 05:22 (thirteen years ago) link

Julian doing Christmas music:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHhYtWSdcw0

bourgeoistech bourgeoisthèque (_Rudipherous_), Wednesday, 8 December 2010 05:55 (thirteen years ago) link

Just noticed these local shows in the DC area:

Fri. Dec. 10-Omega el Fuerte at Copocabana in Hyattsville, MD for $50. I saw El Gran Combo here many years back. It's a nice big space.

Sun. Dec. 12 Voltio at Galaxy in Hyattsville

Sun. Dec. 12 Los Horoscopos du Durango at East Coast in Woodbridge (this last one should really go on the banda/duranguese/norteno thread0

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 8 December 2010 18:13 (thirteen years ago) link

Latin Beat Magazine contributors lists for 2010

http://www.latinbeatmagazine.com/features.html

curmudgeon, Thursday, 9 December 2010 02:32 (thirteen years ago) link

I wanted to hear that Isaac Delgado album but never did. It's not too late I guess.

curmudgeon, Thursday, 9 December 2010 02:33 (thirteen years ago) link

Again (not that anyone was talking about it): why does tribal belong on this thread? Because when I'm listening to it I start pulling out moves I haven't necessarily touched since I took some west African dancing classes decades ago. The rhythms feel pretty African to me, wherever they actually are coming from.

bourgeoistech bourgeoisthèque (_Rudipherous_), Thursday, 9 December 2010 15:06 (thirteen years ago) link

(I was never very good at all at African dancing, incidentally.)

bourgeoistech bourgeoisthèque (_Rudipherous_), Thursday, 9 December 2010 15:07 (thirteen years ago) link

Man, I've been delinquent, both on this thread and in figuring out why I liked what Afro-Latin I liked this year. BUT you all may be interested to note that Daddy Yankee's "Vida En la Noche", my favorite single of the year, is the #54 single on <a href="http://www.popmatters.com/pm/feature/134407-the-60-best-singles-of-2010/";>PopMatters's year-end list</a>. Which may just mean I was the only person who voted for it but I voted it #1. Who can tell? That album was really good.

dr. phil, Thursday, 9 December 2010 16:44 (thirteen years ago) link

(I need to review the formatting guide.)

dr. phil, Thursday, 9 December 2010 16:45 (thirteen years ago) link

kafit - si tú fueras

i don't think i'd normally be into it but i can look at miami all day and the track isn't bad when he's not going diva on the vocals

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FzpDuIBFl3M

fauxmarc, Thursday, 9 December 2010 16:53 (thirteen years ago) link

BUT you all may be interested to note that Daddy Yankee's "Vida En la Noche", my favorite single of the year, is the #54 single on PopMatters's year-end list. Which may just mean I was the only person who voted for it but I voted it #1. Who can tell? That album was really good.

I just skimmed that list and missed that fact. I love that song and the whole album (even though there are a couple tracks I'm meh about on their own).

bourgeoistech bourgeoisthèque (_Rudipherous_), Thursday, 9 December 2010 17:27 (thirteen years ago) link

I just wanted to say I started reading Oye Como Va! Hyrbidity and Identity in Latino Popular Music by Deborah Pacini Hernandez, and it looks excellent. Partly I'm just excited to read something that talks so much about things I've listened to in very recent years.

http://www.amazon.com/Oye-Como-Va-Hybridity-Identity/dp/1439900906/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1291928792&sr=1-1

bourgeoistech bourgeoisthèque (_Rudipherous_), Thursday, 9 December 2010 21:06 (thirteen years ago) link

I should read that too.

curmudgeon, Thursday, 9 December 2010 21:24 (thirteen years ago) link

Sometimes it seems that books are the place to turn to for good reporting on hard news type current events; maybe that applies to music as well. Sort of the informal media of blogs, boards, etc. on the one hand and books on the other.

I knew "Hyrbidity" looked wrong but I didn't see what was out of place, and even "Hybridity" looks funny (and the spell check doesn't like either one).

bourgeoistech bourgeoisthèque (_Rudipherous_), Thursday, 9 December 2010 21:45 (thirteen years ago) link

Higherbidity

bourgeoistech bourgeoisthèque (_Rudipherous_), Thursday, 9 December 2010 21:45 (thirteen years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hv8W-qt7qS8

fauxmarc, Thursday, 9 December 2010 22:16 (thirteen years ago) link

I need to get that; I've got a book proposal in the hopper at a different university press about US Latinos' contributions to metal and punk, and that book probably doesn't deal with that overmuch but would still be worth a read.

that's not funny. (unperson), Friday, 10 December 2010 01:23 (thirteen years ago) link

No, I don't think it's going to touch on punk and metal much, but it does deal with rock and the identity issues related to taking up rock in general (but then if you looked at the table of contents you already know that). This author also wrote a very well-regarded book on bachata, which for some reason I've never read, but which I've always had in the back of my mind as something that would be worth reading.

bourgeoistech bourgeoisthèque (_Rudipherous_), Friday, 10 December 2010 02:26 (thirteen years ago) link

Actually her book on bachata is probably very nearly THE book on bachata, in English.

bourgeoistech bourgeoisthèque (_Rudipherous_), Friday, 10 December 2010 02:36 (thirteen years ago) link

I wish a reggaeton album cover really would look this classy for a change:

http://www.cduniverse.com/productinfo.asp?pid=8368986

bourgeoistech bourgeoisthèque (_Rudipherous_), Friday, 10 December 2010 05:05 (thirteen years ago) link

Ben Ratliff in the NY Times on his boredom with the current 2010 Los Van Van live show:

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/12/09/arts/music/09van.html?ref=music

curmudgeon, Monday, 13 December 2010 17:49 (thirteen years ago) link

lex posted this on the magazine EOY list thread, but I think it's worth re-posting. Not sure how much I'd like the song minus the video but I do like the combination:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ej8s1wgGMIQ

Some of her other work sounds closer to Ivy Queen's songs from several years back (though I wouldn't say her vocals really sound that similar):

http://www.myspace.com/princesavale

_Rudipherous_, Friday, 17 December 2010 13:52 (thirteen years ago) link

I like the beat and the video, and find it interesting that she's much more connected to the dancehall side of reggaeton than the Latin pop side (there's a photo on her MySpace page of her with Mad Professor and Macka B) but the timbre of her voice doesn't work for me; it grates on my ear.

that's not funny. (unperson), Friday, 17 December 2010 14:16 (thirteen years ago) link

i'm ok with it. her myspace says she's from argentina?

fauxmarc, Friday, 17 December 2010 14:48 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah, some quick googling turns up connections to the nu-cumbia scene (or whatever it's called) there.

_Rudipherous_, Friday, 17 December 2010 14:50 (thirteen years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3SV9nbvwflE

_Rudipherous_, Saturday, 18 December 2010 13:45 (thirteen years ago) link

a good live clip of antony santos doing voy pa'lla

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6oFG_EQo5Kw

fauxmarc, Wednesday, 22 December 2010 13:48 (thirteen years ago) link

Latest Ivy Queen news:

http://www.examiner.com/latin-music-entertainment-in-los-angeles/ivy-queen-s-sex-being-questioned-again

_Rudipherous_, Wednesday, 22 December 2010 22:44 (thirteen years ago) link

I think this is a new Wisin & Yandel track (from their forthcoming Los Vaqueros: El Regreso). Didn't they just break up a year ago, or something like that hahaha?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eti8Zb7fHt0

Still in their new generic club dance vein, I'd say.

_Rudipherous_, Saturday, 25 December 2010 15:39 (thirteen years ago) link

Another high-budget, thoughtfully crafted video there.

_Rudipherous_, Saturday, 25 December 2010 16:36 (thirteen years ago) link

I don't know, that track kinda sucks compared with some of the stuff on their last couple of albums.

that's not funny. (unperson), Sunday, 26 December 2010 15:48 (thirteen years ago) link

I like Frankie Vazquez, but I wish he would direct his talents toward something other than recreating the mambo golden age. Anyway new album from Mambo Legends Orchestra (which is some sort of version of the same Tito Puente legends or whatever that he's been singing with for while):

http://www.myspace.com/mambolegendsorchestra

_Rudipherous_, Monday, 27 December 2010 20:17 (thirteen years ago) link


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