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jeeeeeeeesus

my take:

N.W.A. felt more like the straw that broke the camel's back in terms of street talk coming into the mainstream of hip hop, like it made it a phenomenon...but they far from the first...obv, they did it in a more compelling and visceral (and well produced/polished way thanks to dre)...

Run-DMC to me is still THE event of hip hop because yah they did have a street vibe, the way they dressed, the more angry yelling tone, the stripped down beats...everything before them seemed old fashioned after them...

it's almost a beatles/50s rock n' roll thing...like the beatles were more sophisticated musically and probably have more influence on stuff that is happening today...but the 50s rock n' roll guys created the environment that made the beatles even possible....they really changed the world more than the beatles did IMO.

iirc it first came up when i observed a positive consensus towards 'fuck you' by cee lo.

al disagreed & he or someone linked to the singles jukebox as evidence

i said that, like, in my anecdotal experiences, it was kind of universally liked, (more than even say the kanye record is now), implying that this was an ilx / critnerd bubble that suggested the song was getting mixed reviews.

cant believe we're still arguing about THAT clusterfukk

my take:

N.W.A. felt more like the straw that broke the camel's back in terms of street talk coming into the mainstream of hip hop, like it made it a phenomenon...but they far from the first...obv, they did it in a more compelling and visceral (and well produced/polished way thanks to dre)...

Run-DMC to me is still THE event of hip hop because yah they did have a street vibe, the way they dressed, the more angry yelling tone, the stripped down beats...everything before them seemed old fashioned after them...

it's almost a beatles/50s rock n' roll thing...like the beatles were more sophisticated musically and probably have more influence on stuff that is happening today...but the 50s rock n' roll guys created the environment that made the beatles even possible....they really changed the world more than the beatles did IMO.

― 311 did 4/20 (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, December 9, 2010 6:46 PM (6 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i think this is a solid argument. one of the things that i think about a lot though (cue GZA thread clusterfuck), is how stuff sounds in today's context. You can still drop Eazy E in clubs & people go nuts for it ... his voice really feels relevant today. Other than throwback nights, though, I cant see people dropping too many run dmc songs. (did love hearing rock box in GTA)

For awhile when i spun i was using the peter piper instrumental -- that shit still sounds bonkers

i said that, like, in my anecdotal experiences, it was kind of universally liked, (more than even say the kanye record is now), implying that this was an ilx / critnerd bubble that suggested the song was getting mixed reviews.

this is def tru btw

but dude ppl are clowning u because 1) it was a legit funny phrase and 2) you get so mad about it. imagine if sarge got this pissed every time someone dropped a 'svelte' or something

cant believe we're still arguing about THAT clusterfukk

― lotta diamonds ... but prolly more display names (deej), Thursday, December 9, 2010 6:46 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark

yeah it's almost as if anytime someone brings it up as a joke another poster starts furiously posting all earnestly trying to defend himself in an argument that hasn't even happened

i got annoyed because ppl started thinking that you for real couldnt bring up anecdotal experiences, or that it somehow undercut your argument to do so!! i dont give a shit, i still get crap for rocking chair in the trillville thread, or sage francis's nuts, or whatever else, but i dont make a big deal about it. this is like, it seems like dudes think theres an actual issue w/ the content of what i was arguing, that there was some fallacy in incorporating real world experiences.

if this is not the case then ill leave it alone

i mean hasnt whiney genuinely tried to argue that i was making some kind of cred argument? thats just flat-out incorrect

I have no idea what you guys are talking about and now I wanna know

did deej say some of his best friends are black or something

i think the thing is why do you care what whiney thinks, really? (xxp)

haha i probably do have terrible taste (although much better than most ilm posters)

alright can't speak for whiney but if i use a "my world of young ppl" on you it's def good-natured ribbing

shakey this is actually where it started

er ILM Top 100 2005-2009: TRACKS

hahah that is a hilarious post

lol wtf "my world of young people" is an amazing phrase you should be proud imho

ahh ok i misremembered the context

same deal there though

imagine if whiney wrote paragraph long posts defending the honor of subway every time someone zinged him about it

i would love more displays of gallantry towards sandwiches on this board

imagine if whiney wrote paragraph long posts defending the honor of subway every time someone zinged him about it

― gimme schefter (J0rdan S.), Thursday, December 9, 2010 6:57 PM (38 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

dude for the last time im not aggy cuz someone associates that phrase w/ me, im fine w/ it in context, its that yall are misrepresenting what my point was in the first place ('yall' might just be 'whiney')

can't believe someone would strawman somebody else on ilx

like, im defending my use of it in the context of that argument -- i havent even made that big a deal of it when al uses it, aside from when you got defensive about bringing up an anecdote because you thought it would sound too 'in my world of young ppl' -- & i was just like ,dude, theres nothing wrong with that!

dude for the last time im not aggy cuz someone associates that phrase w/ me, im fine w/ it in context, its that yall are misrepresenting what my point was in the first place ('yall' might just be 'whiney')

― lotta diamonds ... but prolly more display names (deej), Thursday, December 9, 2010 6:59 PM (49 seconds ago) Bookmark

to be fair i haven't read any of your response posts itt, but also who cares if you're point is being slightly misrepresented!

~~~~sighs~~~~

look, when whiney made a smash off thread about katy perry & zoey deschanell & he accidentally worded the thread so it made it seem like he wanted to drown them in a river (pause for lols) & people started zinging him for it all across the board he wasn't all "you guys are misrepresenting my point!!!" -- this is just stupid

thats not at all the same thing dude

only in the sense that for some reason you think it's high crime for your ilx intellectual property to be misrepresented in order to mildly zing you from time to time

whiney accidently writing that he wanted to drown girls is lol. i didnt 'accidently' write anything. hes just randomly misconstruing a point to smear what i was saying

j0rdan, because its central to the issue we were discussing! its dishonest

http://idolator.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/eadickman_12.gif

dont 'get' that ref

there's no ref to get iirc

well, dishonest, or stupid

he's "checking" his "watch" since the "performance" has been going on "for quite some time with no end in sight"

oh its animating really slowly for me for some reason. assumed it was just a still

cant believe somebody would misrepresent somebody else on ilx for lols

treasonous

how was it lol though? the 'humor' is only there if you think i was bringing up friends for 'cred'

i still dont see whats funny about being like, hey, there were a lot of ppl i knew irl who liked this album

maybe u are worried that explaining the humor will 'ruin it' but i think instead it will help u realize that whiney's 'zing' was 'garbage' & he's 'not ever funny'

a lot of young ppl

^notice the rhetorical retreat

yes. now, where is that funny. did i make a joke about drowning young people? did i mention not including cheese on my amy winehouse record to save calories?

hey deej, I've been meaning to ask, how did you get access to this world of young ppl, and how did you come into exclusive possession of it

ok dickhead

never realized there was this world of young ppl out there, man, you learn something new every day

the 'humor' is only there if you think i was bringing up friends for 'cred'

― lotta diamonds ... but prolly more display names (deej), Thursday, December 9, 2010 7:17 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

the humor is in the phrase "my world of young people" -- that is a hilarious phrase -- it has nothing to do w/ the actual point

dude ... im not embarrassed about using that phrase? i knew it was lol when i was using it? this isnt about the use of that phrase at all, its about whiney misrepresenting it in a non-lol way

maybe u are worried that explaining the humor will 'ruin it' but i think instead it will help u realize that whiney's 'zing' was 'garbage' & he's 'not ever funny'

― lotta diamonds ... but prolly more display names (deej), Thursday, December 9, 2010 7:19 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark

i've added you to the list of ppl on ilx that post as a fake carles

dude ... im not embarrassed about using that phrase? i knew it was lol when i was using it? this isnt about the use of that phrase at all, its about whiney misrepresenting it in a non-lol way

― lotta diamonds ... but prolly more display names (deej), Thursday, December 9, 2010 7:24 PM (14 seconds ago) Bookmark

maybe for you it is -- but for literally everyon else, it's about the continual lols of the phrase "my world of young ppl"

& if you intended for it to be lol, congrats, you started a meme! shouldn't you be basking in its glow?