list of involuntary reactions to the new le tigre 'single'

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There's barely a track to defend. Only heard it once but the rhythm changes were scarily inept/out of time, I think.

Andrew Blood Thames (Andrew Thames), Thursday, 19 August 2004 12:30 (nineteen years ago) link

From way up top and OTM:
i kind of liked it, but who would want to listen to this more than once??

frankE (frankE), Thursday, 19 August 2004 12:49 (nineteen years ago) link

Hi there!

So, I'm not feeling any extreme hatred for this track. It sounds like a sequel to "Dyke March 2001" with big/clean mainstream production. The political rhetoric? This isn't really a surprise coming from Kathleen Hanna. Bizarre choice for a single, though.

Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Thursday, 19 August 2004 12:49 (nineteen years ago) link

"DM2001" sucked too tho

Andrew Blood Thames (Andrew Thames), Thursday, 19 August 2004 12:50 (nineteen years ago) link

I won't defend the track, but I will say congratulations to some of the people on this thread for being so virulently misogynistic that I feel the urge to... "MUSIC fans" vs. "13yr old chicks"?

Flyboy (Flyboy), Thursday, 19 August 2004 12:52 (nineteen years ago) link

where's the mysogyny?

())(())()()()(()(LASER)()()()LA(Z)E(R)()()()((L)()()(A)(S(E)R()()()) (ex machina, Thursday, 19 August 2004 12:53 (nineteen years ago) link

The opposition being set up that I just quoted - real music fans v. stupid young, female people? The reference to "tedious PROWOMYN shit" - yeah yeah, you say anti-feminist, I say misogynist, let's call the whole thing off...

Flyboy (Flyboy), Thursday, 19 August 2004 12:58 (nineteen years ago) link

My girlf's 16 bro

Andrew Blood Thames (Andrew Thames), Thursday, 19 August 2004 12:59 (nineteen years ago) link

I don't think the implication there is that all feminist music/art is tedious, just that this song is banal crap.

())(())()()()(()(LASER)()()()LA(Z)E(R)()()()((L)()()(A)(S(E)R()()()) (ex machina, Thursday, 19 August 2004 12:59 (nineteen years ago) link

I somehow feel feminist interests might be better served by GOOD rather than HORRIBLE music, Flyboy

Andrew Blood Thames (Andrew Thames), Thursday, 19 August 2004 13:02 (nineteen years ago) link

Heh, "Rocked by Rape" occurred to me, too.

Also: I listened just long enough to hear K-Han quote Eleanor Roosevelt: "It's not enough to just talk about peace, you have to believe in it. And it's not enought to just believe in peace, you have to do something about it. And that's what we're doing: doing something about it!" What? By putting out a shitty, facile song?

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 19 August 2004 13:04 (nineteen years ago) link

I wish Le Tigre fans would show up like DMB fans

())(())()()()(()(LASER)()()()LA(Z)E(R)()()()((L)()()(A)(S(E)R()()()) (ex machina, Thursday, 19 August 2004 13:14 (nineteen years ago) link

fwiw (which is 0 i guess) the silly newswoman samples are amy goodman. i think.

g--ff (gcannon), Thursday, 19 August 2004 13:17 (nineteen years ago) link

this may have been covered above (really, too much to wade through), but why is coming out now? had this come out last march, it'd at least have made some sense. now we can all be jaded by anti-war vibes, but back in sept 2002, this would have at least had some zeitgeist behind it.

also, as an aside, what does democracy smell like?

frankE (frankE), Thursday, 19 August 2004 13:18 (nineteen years ago) link

unhappily the song is so gangly it's tough to hang a joke on it.

but yeah basketball, wtf??

g--ff (gcannon), Thursday, 19 August 2004 13:18 (nineteen years ago) link

FACE IT! THIS WAS THE BEST LE TIGRE EVER 1986 STYLE. LOVE WAS, IS, AND ALWAYS WILL BE THE SLUG.

http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Club/9440/wgafawgui.jpg

WE'VE GOT AN ANONYMOUS POSTING LIBERTY AND WE'RE GONNA USE IT!!, Thursday, 19 August 2004 14:02 (nineteen years ago) link

Ned! Yr review rules!

Andrew Blood Thames (Andrew Thames), Thursday, 19 August 2004 14:51 (nineteen years ago) link

I'm with Matos. This does nothing for me. It's like a commercial.

Je4nne Ć’ury (Jeanne Fury), Thursday, 19 August 2004 14:54 (nineteen years ago) link

Ned! Yr review rules!

Well, one tries. ;-)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:03 (nineteen years ago) link

I get the feeling that this was just meant to be an internet hype thing, and that there will be a proper single right around the time the albums hits stores.

Still, bad call. Very bad call. I can think of a lot of records that got fucked over commercially by releasing a weak first single, and I predict that this will cripple the record's sales.

Le Tigre probably felt that it was important to get this song out there before the RNC. I can't think of any other rational motivation.

Matthew Perpetua (Matthew Perpetua), Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:53 (nineteen years ago) link

Le Tigre, "Theme From ZOOM (Consolidated 'Lick Bush' Remix)"

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:58 (nineteen years ago) link

Pacifica radio is going to be all over this song. They are going to play it during every episode of Democracy Now from now until the end of time.

Matthew Perpetua (Matthew Perpetua), Thursday, 19 August 2004 16:01 (nineteen years ago) link

"Democracy sounds like"...me not plunking down change for this.

And oh god yes, this is going to be WBAI's friggin' theme song very soon.

mike a, Thursday, 19 August 2004 16:04 (nineteen years ago) link

I am perversely fascinated with this song/video for pretty much the same reason why I occassionally listen to WBAI just to make myself squirm.

Matthew Perpetua (Matthew Perpetua), Thursday, 19 August 2004 16:07 (nineteen years ago) link

You just know that LT are Democracy Now fans. Maybe they wrote this with them in mind, you know?

Matthew Perpetua (Matthew Perpetua), Thursday, 19 August 2004 16:08 (nineteen years ago) link

Plus they must be aware of Peace Now, the group against the Israeli settlements...so there's another pet cause referenced.

mike a, Thursday, 19 August 2004 16:10 (nineteen years ago) link

I can't think of any other rational motivation.

We're talking about a band comprised of three women here. ZING!

Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Thursday, 19 August 2004 16:12 (nineteen years ago) link

There is an interview with them in the new Bust magazine. The new album features a cover of The Pointer Sisters' "I'm So Excited". I think we know what the single is going to be now...

Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Thursday, 19 August 2004 23:04 (nineteen years ago) link

Why do I have the sinking feeling that cover will rank alongside efforts by the likes of Travis when it comes to 'creative reinterpretation'?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 19 August 2004 23:06 (nineteen years ago) link

Oh, they've been playing it live for a year or so. It's actually quite fun! I didn't think they were going to put it on the record though.

As for creative reinterpretation, they said they covered it because it conveyed their general feeling playing a concert to their fans.

Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Thursday, 19 August 2004 23:19 (nineteen years ago) link

execute

roger adultery (roger adultery), Thursday, 19 August 2004 23:20 (nineteen years ago) link

they said they covered it because it conveyed their general feeling playing a concert to their fans

Hmmm.

Tonight I could be with you
Or waiting in the Wings
Lift your heart with soaring song
Cut down the puppet strings
Cut down the puppet strings

I wear a coat of drums
And dance upon your eyes
Turn the tables upside down
Change the lows to highs
Change the lows to highs

I fill you up with butterflies
Crown the heads of kings
Be glad of first night nerves
For fear gives courage wings
Fear gives courage wings

If I am on the sidelines
Chances are you'll miss
Wait alone and spotlit
For Doctor Theatre's kiss

The stage becomes a ship in flames
I tie you to the mast
Throw your body overboard
The spotlight doesn't last
The spotlight doesn't last

I could be with you
Or waiting in the wings
Lift your heart with soaring song
Cut down the puppet strings
Cut down the puppet strings

I may tap you on the shoulder
And whisper "go" in red
Strip your feet of lead my friend
Strip your feet of lead

Call the curtain
Raise the roof
Spirits on tonight

Call the curtain
Raise the roof
Spirits on tonight

Call the curtain
Raise the roof
Spirits on tonight

We love our audience

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 19 August 2004 23:21 (nineteen years ago) link

The single is probably what 'Chinese Democracy' sounds like

dave q, Thursday, 19 August 2004 23:30 (nineteen years ago) link

HAHAHAHAHA

Dave Q I kiss you.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 19 August 2004 23:30 (nineteen years ago) link

If anything I haven't been harsh ENOUGH on "Fem Sweeps". This idiotic insulting lesbian wannabe SHIT's turned me prowar, nice fucking work Kathleen

"lesbian wannabe"? what the hell are you talking about?

J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Thursday, 19 August 2004 23:34 (nineteen years ago) link

i'm sorry andrew i know you aren't anti-feminist OR misogynist but you've said some pretty stupid things on this thread.

The Lady Ms Lurex (lucylurex), Friday, 20 August 2004 00:36 (nineteen years ago) link

i am not going to write off the album before i hear it in its entirety.

The Lady Ms Lurex (lucylurex), Friday, 20 August 2004 00:39 (nineteen years ago) link

plz to be stop hating on kat thx

cinniblount (James Blount), Friday, 20 August 2004 00:40 (nineteen years ago) link

That song is awesome! I just listened to the mp3. But Fuzzbox were 10X better than Le Tigre on their best day, so don't even try it. They should have sampled Amy Goodman interviewing Arundhati Roy instead of reeling off the names of cities and towns though.

scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 20 August 2004 00:57 (nineteen years ago) link

also can we please stop talking about le tigre as though they are a kathleen hanna solo project.

The Lady Ms Lurex (lucylurex), Friday, 20 August 2004 01:05 (nineteen years ago) link

That song is awesome!

Man, you're bold.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 20 August 2004 01:12 (nineteen years ago) link

hey actually, do we have any idea who does what with LeTigre musicwise? I've always wondered if the member who left between the first two albums was a really key element, becuz god knows SOMETHING left around that time.

CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Friday, 20 August 2004 01:23 (nineteen years ago) link

I still like the Otep song better though: http://www.otep.com/warhead/


i'm not a big kathleen hanna fan though. i was always more of a huggy bear fan. she was cute in that sonic youth video though. but even that: i mean she's no lung leg. but then sonic youth weren't the same sonic youth by then, so it makes sense that they would choose a 2nd gen toothless version of fierce female to hang their senior bus passes on. riot girl was too cutesy for me. i like freaks and geeks too much. most of those dilletantes weren't passionate enough to shine dawn crosby's boots. never heard of dawn crosby? yeah, i didn't think so. she wasn't pouty enough. (that cassavettes song was silly though! i'll bet sofia coppola liked that one.)

scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 20 August 2004 01:24 (nineteen years ago) link

Justyn most of her fans I know of think she's gay, she sings about gay stuff all the time, what do you think I'm talking about? Di I dunno what I've said that's so stupid, can't be as stupid as this song anyway

Andrew Blood Thames (Andrew Thames), Friday, 20 August 2004 01:32 (nineteen years ago) link

I mean I could go hassle teenage males on a Korn thread or something but I don't give a shit for Korn and never have, so it doesn't bother me as much

Andrew Blood Thames (Andrew Thames), Friday, 20 August 2004 01:33 (nineteen years ago) link

Mmmmm, teenage males on a Korn thread. WAIT, did I say that out loud!!!???

scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 20 August 2004 01:43 (nineteen years ago) link

Kathy U.S.M.

Sterling Clover (s_clover), Friday, 20 August 2004 02:36 (nineteen years ago) link

they should have mixed that list of cities over the ying yang twins!

Sterling Clover (s_clover), Friday, 20 August 2004 02:37 (nineteen years ago) link

couldn't they have picked some y'know slightly funky chants?

Sterling Clover (s_clover), Friday, 20 August 2004 02:38 (nineteen years ago) link

i'd totally buy a kathy unstoppable sex machine

cinniblount (James Blount), Friday, 20 August 2004 02:46 (nineteen years ago) link


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