You can't really attribute that type of sound to too many other bands in 1972.. that's for sure.
― donut ferry (donut), Friday, 29 July 2005 05:02 (nineteen years ago) link
Who had more of a revolving junkie circus of the most excellent musicians ever?
― donut ferry (donut), Friday, 29 July 2005 05:03 (nineteen years ago) link
Why haven't they had a WIRE cover retrospective yet?
― Soukesian, Friday, 29 July 2005 05:25 (nineteen years ago) link
― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Friday, 29 July 2005 05:47 (nineteen years ago) link
because the wire is shit?
― el sabor de gene (yournullfame), Friday, 29 July 2005 06:19 (nineteen years ago) link
― walter kranz (walterkranz), Friday, 29 July 2005 06:20 (nineteen years ago) link
― Pashmina (Pashmina), Friday, 29 July 2005 07:07 (nineteen years ago) link
― Colonel Poo (Colonel Poo), Friday, 29 July 2005 07:59 (nineteen years ago) link
― huell howser (chaki), Friday, 29 July 2005 08:07 (nineteen years ago) link
― famantha sox, Friday, 29 July 2005 08:12 (nineteen years ago) link
― Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 29 July 2005 08:13 (nineteen years ago) link
Heaven 17 with Hannah Jones
New Model Army featuring Tom Jones
Cud with Sandie Shaw
Kingmaker
Thunder
Little Angels
Hawkwind and Samantha Fox
Pop Will Eat Itself vs Gary Clail vs Ranking Roger vs The Mighty Diaminds vs The On-U-Sound System
Blue Pearl
Credit 10 versions of the Stones' classic on one single release! #############################^^^^^^^^^^^^^^#########################
Hawkind: I tell you love, sisterSamantha: Love, sisterHawkind: It's just a kiss awayIt's just a kiss awayLove, love, sisterSamantha: Love, sisterHawkind: It's just a kiss awayIt's just a kiss awayLove, love, brotherSamantha: Love, brotherHawkind: It's just a kiss awaySamantha: Kiss awayHawkind: It's just a kiss awayLove, sisterSamantha: Love, sisterHawkind: It's just a kiss awayBoth: Kiss away, kiss awayHawkind: It's just a kiss away (kiss away)Both: Kiss awaySamantha: Kiss away, kiss away, kiss away - yeah(fade)
― famantha sox, Friday, 29 July 2005 08:16 (nineteen years ago) link
yes. it's not really like a live album, anyway, consider it a giant collage of everything great that hawkwind did played by the band at their best, and it's like uh a total experience you know?
― el sabor de gene (yournullfame), Friday, 29 July 2005 08:17 (nineteen years ago) link
― Colonel Poo (Colonel Poo), Friday, 29 July 2005 08:24 (nineteen years ago) link
best live album ever.
― stirmonster (stirmonster), Friday, 29 July 2005 08:59 (nineteen years ago) link
― stirmonster (stirmonster), Friday, 29 July 2005 11:30 (nineteen years ago) link
It's no social integratorIt's a one man isolatorIt's a back brain stimulatorIt's a cerebral vibrator
Those energy stimulatorsTurn your eyeballs into cratorsBut an Orgone AccumulatorIs a superman creator
I've got an Orgone AccumulatorAnd it makes me feel graterI'll see you sometime laterWhen I'm through with my Accumulator
― cutty (mcutt), Friday, 29 July 2005 11:48 (nineteen years ago) link
― Zack Richardson (teenagequiet), Friday, 29 July 2005 12:28 (nineteen years ago) link
― peter smith (plsmith), Friday, 29 July 2005 13:12 (nineteen years ago) link
― Tripmaker (SDWitzm), Friday, 29 July 2005 13:13 (nineteen years ago) link
― mcd (mcd), Friday, 29 July 2005 13:39 (nineteen years ago) link
― I'm Hi, Jared Fogle (ex machina), Friday, 29 July 2005 13:41 (nineteen years ago) link
― mcd (mcd), Friday, 29 July 2005 13:51 (nineteen years ago) link
Also, before CD bonus tracks and all that jazz, Space Ritual was basically the only place to hear classic songs like Silver Machine (without seeking out the original single) and Orgone Accumulator.
― walter kranz (walterkranz), Friday, 29 July 2005 14:05 (nineteen years ago) link
― Zack Richardson (teenagequiet), Friday, 29 July 2005 14:08 (nineteen years ago) link
― I'm Hi, Jared Fogle (ex machina), Friday, 29 July 2005 14:10 (nineteen years ago) link
― walter kranz (walterkranz), Friday, 29 July 2005 14:13 (nineteen years ago) link
― Zack Richardson (teenagequiet), Friday, 29 July 2005 14:14 (nineteen years ago) link
― walter kranz (walterkranz), Friday, 29 July 2005 14:14 (nineteen years ago) link
― walter kranz (walterkranz), Friday, 29 July 2005 14:16 (nineteen years ago) link
The single version was built up from the sketchy version on the the "Glastonbury Fayre" triple.
NB that there is one of those dodgy live comps out, w/the complete concert for one of the 2 gigs the made "Space Ritual" from. It has the bit cut out from "Masters of the Universe", which = the best cut on S.R. for me.
The missing bit from S.R. is the live version of "You Shouldn't do That" which was on the '70's "Roadhawks" comp. THIS CUT IS FUCKING AWESOME.
― Pashmina (Pashmina), Friday, 29 July 2005 14:21 (nineteen years ago) link
― nickalicious (nickalicious), Friday, 29 July 2005 14:26 (nineteen years ago) link
― Tripmaker (SDWitzm), Friday, 29 July 2005 14:29 (nineteen years ago) link
I owned this years ago on disc because I got all crazy for Monster Magnet, and went back to the source. Then I got poor and sold tons of CDs, and Space Ritual was one of em.
And then one day, the pull was great. Space Ritual was beckoning me. I was dreaming about it. And thinking about it all the time. Then I bought it at Aquarius in SF and listened to it tons and tons and wondered how I could possibly get rid of a record so monolithic and time-travelled.
I'm going to listen to it tonight real loud.
― Brooker Buckingham (Brooker B), Friday, 29 July 2005 14:32 (nineteen years ago) link
-- el sabor de gene
OTM. It doesn't even SOUND like a proper live album - all the songs are performed without interruption, linked by narration or electronic squiggles, so you don't even hear the audience till the very end. And there's no 10-minute drum solos or anything. Best live LP ever? - sure, why not?
As for the Dave Brock vs. George Clinton thing, Clinton wins easily - but Space Ritual still beats P-Funk Earth Tour (a pretty great live LP itself.)
― Myonga Von Bontee (Myonga Von Bontee), Friday, 29 July 2005 14:36 (nineteen years ago) link
Otherwise, while i like Hawkwind (the first album), it's really not indicitave of FUCKIN' HAWKWIND as we know and love them, but it's worth investigating. I think Hall Of The Mountain Grill is great though. Robert Calvert's presence is usually a good sign with most Hawkwind releases. Robert Calvert's initial solo stuff is great too.. if for anything the Gremlin songs... "EYE FOOOOOOOKUSSSED ON THE MAHG-NIFYING GLAHSSSSS THAT BRAUUUGHT THE DOWNFALL OF IKKARRRUS!!!"
― donut ferry (donut), Friday, 29 July 2005 14:36 (nineteen years ago) link
― James Slone (Freon Trotsky), Friday, 29 July 2005 14:37 (nineteen years ago) link
that's the drum machine and synth remake. not the best.
'silver machine' wasn't on 'space ritual' because the band couldn't stand it. it was the record label that picked it from the outtakes as a single and got lemmy to re record the vocals. i saw hawkwind about a half dozen times in the early 80's and they NEVER played 'silver machine' live.
― stirmonster (stirmonster), Friday, 29 July 2005 14:39 (nineteen years ago) link
― Jamie T Smith (Jamie T Smith), Friday, 29 July 2005 14:40 (nineteen years ago) link
― donut ferry (donut), Friday, 29 July 2005 14:41 (nineteen years ago) link
― stirmonster (stirmonster), Friday, 29 July 2005 14:42 (nineteen years ago) link
dave brock or nik turner: i suppose you want us to play bloody "silver machine" again, eh?
audience: nooooooo...! play something else
hawkwind: (launches into silver machine again)
― Pashmina (Pashmina), Friday, 29 July 2005 14:43 (nineteen years ago) link
― James Slone (Freon Trotsky), Friday, 29 July 2005 14:44 (nineteen years ago) link
― Pashmina (Pashmina), Friday, 29 July 2005 14:44 (nineteen years ago) link
― Tripmaker (SDWitzm), Friday, 29 July 2005 14:45 (nineteen years ago) link
― stirmonster (stirmonster), Friday, 29 July 2005 14:46 (nineteen years ago) link
― Zack Richardson (teenagequiet), Friday, 29 July 2005 14:49 (nineteen years ago) link
― haitch (haitch), Friday, 29 July 2005 14:56 (nineteen years ago) link
― ddb (ddb), Friday, 29 July 2005 15:16 (nineteen years ago) link
― cutty (mcutt), Saturday, 30 July 2005 14:10 (nineteen years ago) link
Never picked up "Yesshows," so I can't contrast them. I was always satisfied with the vinyl and the Japanese remaster sounded fine to me so I've no idea how the domestic copies are.
I guess I'd better pick up a copy of the new remaster and listen to them both over the weekend. "Space Ritual" was a double, not a 3 lp, though.
Possibly I was swerved by the sleeve/poster which unfolded all over the floor. The endless medium-fried boogie of it was different, too. Ultimate in '70's live album power? "Live at Leeds", no doubt. Why and when did our hard rock bands start sucking so much compared w/the '70's?
That's a good question.
― George Smith, Saturday, 30 July 2005 16:32 (nineteen years ago) link
― p.j. (Henry), Saturday, 30 July 2005 17:06 (nineteen years ago) link
Indeed. And it reminds me of another similar question I posed in a recent thread: Why were only the 70s able to produce breakthru live LPs? (Performers whose first true HIT records were live: Cheap Trick, Frampton, Humble Pie, Allmans, Bob Seger, Rush, etc.)
― Myonga Von Bontee (Myonga Von Bontee), Saturday, 30 July 2005 18:37 (nineteen years ago) link
For the hard rockers, after playing the same songs for a year or two on the road, they sounded more electric, just MORE everything. And the bands had reputations as good live acts, which suggested the live recordings didn't have to be stepped on in the studio after the fact to get them ready for release. Anyway, Cheap Trick dudes always yakked about how little fiddling they added to "At Budokan," if you believe them.
Plus, the way to work a hard rock act was to have them do one or more albums a year, at least. So there was always a push to keep the name in the market and the act in front of concert-goers. A live album was another easy way to do that.
Now, even many the crappiest and most low budget hard or heavy acts can't can't put albums out with less than two years between releases.
― George Smith, Saturday, 30 July 2005 20:00 (nineteen years ago) link
OK quick question ...
what's the diff between
space ritual and space ritual sundown vol 2
i have the former, bumped into the latter at a shop today and was wondering whether it was the same versions as i already have on the former or not. ..
― moonship journey to baja, Friday, 15 June 2007 09:48 (seventeen years ago) link
oh i should make it clear: i have the 2cd 2001 (?) reissue of space ritual.
― moonship journey to baja, Friday, 15 June 2007 09:49 (seventeen years ago) link
The original "Space Ritual" double is compiled from 2 gigs on the tour, one at Liverpool, one at Brixton. The "sundown vol 2" disc is the Brixton gig, complete and not overdubbed/mixed. It's interesting (rawer sound quality, you get the bit off the end of "Brainstorm") but not worth paying much $$ for. Be warned that this recording is available under multiple different titles.
A list of them here: http://www.starfarer.net/bringme.html
― Pashmina, Friday, 15 June 2007 10:35 (seventeen years ago) link
Basically, it's worth buying, but only if it's REALLY cheap.
― Pashmina, Friday, 15 June 2007 10:38 (seventeen years ago) link
I shelled out for the new (Dutch) reissue of <i>Space Ritual</i>. The restored "Brainstorm" kicks much ass. Bonus "Orgone Accumulator" and "Time We Left this World Today." 2 encore takes of "You Shouldn't Do That." And a fucking PAL DVD audio version with videos for "Silver Machine" and "Urban Guerilla." I have no self-control.
― Trip Maker, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 13:39 (sixteen years ago) link
It's affecting my ability to format. The booklet goes into great detail over Barney Bubbles art direction.
― Trip Maker, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 13:41 (sixteen years ago) link
Got it in a car boot sale for £2! Hurrah!
― Tom D., Tuesday, 2 October 2007 13:42 (sixteen years ago) link
... that's "Space Ritual Sundown Vol 2"
― Tom D., Tuesday, 2 October 2007 13:43 (sixteen years ago) link
i knew it would happen at some point.
yesterday this arrived :
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/81vfDUdE%2BYL._SL1500_.jpg
i have held back from buying any HW knowing that if i got one album i would definitely need to get the complete set (of the UA era), so the boxset does the job perfectly.these are new remasters, with the extra tracks/single edits etc that were on older editions are collected together on a seperate disc which is the best way to do it if you ask me.so far i have heard HW and now onto Doremi.needless to say, this is fucking insanely good.
― mark e, Saturday, 28 March 2015 12:52 (nine years ago) link
I've been blasting "Space Ritual" all week. Close to perfection.
― ©Oz Quiz© (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 28 March 2015 14:16 (nine years ago) link
If they lost the spoken word segments then it would be perfection imho.
― ©Oz Quiz© (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 28 March 2015 14:17 (nine years ago) link
saving that one for this evening with a glass of wine or two.
― mark e, Saturday, 28 March 2015 14:29 (nine years ago) link
I had a previous set of remasters (Castle/Sanctuary) at one point, but got rid of the physical versions and kept the files in my iPod. Just bought this set on eBay. Not 100% sure I need three double live sets (Greasy Truckers, Space Ritual and The 1999 Party) but what the hell. At that price it's impossible to go wrong.
― the top man in the language department (誤訳侮辱), Saturday, 28 March 2015 19:10 (nine years ago) link
I haven't heard Greasy Truckers, but the other two are damn essential.
― EZ Snappin, Saturday, 28 March 2015 19:11 (nine years ago) link
My copy of the box arrived today. I am extremely excited.
― the top man in the language department (誤訳侮辱), Monday, 13 April 2015 15:56 (nine years ago) link
Nah the spoken word bits are an important part of the whole vibe of it imo.
― Ron Paul's Drag Race (Mr Andy M), Monday, 13 April 2015 17:31 (nine years ago) link
yeah I love that aspect of them - WE ARE WARRIORS AT THE END OF TIME AND WE ARE TIRED OF MAKING LOOOOOVE
― Οὖτις, Monday, 13 April 2015 17:36 (nine years ago) link
i can't imagine it without the spoken word bits. "and never, and never, and never, and never....." then, kaboom!!!
― stirmonster, Monday, 13 April 2015 17:44 (nine years ago) link
Crazy talk upthread, the spoken word parts (with wibbly electronic noises) are fucking ace!
― Quack and Merkt (Tom D.), Monday, 13 April 2015 18:09 (nine years ago) link
Yeah you guys are probably right it's just I've been spinning it over and over while playing Dark Souls so I'll be rocking out for a solid 30-45 minutes and then "Sonic Attack" happens and suddenly what was once righteous droney space metal is a guy talking about "You will feel the need to vomit" and "There will be bleeing from orifices". Which I guess is probably appropriate for Dark Souls but whatevs.
And yes Hawkwind can do whatever the hell they want, obviously.
― ©Oz Quiz© (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 13 April 2015 18:57 (nine years ago) link
i once played "sonic attack" in its entirety at a fairly large rave in the early 90s. many years later a guy came up to me and told me the experience had been so brain shattering and traumatic that he ended the night in a psychiatric unit. oops!
― stirmonster, Monday, 13 April 2015 19:20 (nine years ago) link
well done!
― WilliamC, Monday, 13 April 2015 19:22 (nine years ago) link
Yes I can imagine lots of people on acid at that Hawkwind show losing their shit
― ©Oz Quiz© (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 13 April 2015 20:16 (nine years ago) link
When I interviewed Lemmy a few years ago, he told me they used to lock people in at their shows.
― the top man in the language department (誤訳侮辱), Tuesday, 14 April 2015 00:39 (nine years ago) link