don't rly care about r&b beyond the big singles yuh
i like music concrete tho
of course it doesn't sound a lot like the former, and the schematic owes little to the latter but yknow it kinda works as shorthand for what he's doing
― Rockcrit from the Tuoms (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 29 December 2010 06:38 (thirteen years ago) link
not sure i get the (any) connection to musique concrete. it sounds like pleasantly spacey/funky idm to me. connect the dots?
― contenderizer, Wednesday, 29 December 2010 06:44 (thirteen years ago) link
"u will know i have not heard 'Hieroglyphic Being' cuz he is third in yr list and i 'have heard first two of those '"
ok well my point still stands, if you can't hear the influence Steve Poindexter's label, Muzique Records, has had on Actress's album Splazsh then etcetc
sorry if it's "pas/agg trainspotter drivel" to actually know my shit about the subject at hand, but when you say something like "this fuckin BURIES the competition" you shouldn't be surprised that somebody else might say, well actually, there's other stuff out there that already sounds like this and does it better
― missingNO, Wednesday, 29 December 2010 07:02 (thirteen years ago) link
god yr slow
― Rockcrit from the Tuoms (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 29 December 2010 07:15 (thirteen years ago) link
god yr butthurt?
― missingNO, Wednesday, 29 December 2010 07:16 (thirteen years ago) link
i didn't come here to argue dude, I'll leave your thread be *waves*
― missingNO, Wednesday, 29 December 2010 07:17 (thirteen years ago) link
tsccchhhh
entrylevs
― Rockcrit from the Tuoms (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 29 December 2010 07:21 (thirteen years ago) link
oh ok, Burial reference, excellent. bravo old chap
― missingNO, Wednesday, 29 December 2010 07:21 (thirteen years ago) link
still, I'm not so slow as to realize that "rnb concrete" is fucking lame
― missingNO, Wednesday, 29 December 2010 07:23 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah its kinda a lame thread title trinket to get the spesh addled vagrants like yrself thru the door, all counts towards the admission stats tho
― Rockcrit from the Tuoms (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 29 December 2010 07:26 (thirteen years ago) link
my sympathies, nakhchivan, for post-launch events itt
― contenderizer, Wednesday, 29 December 2010 07:28 (thirteen years ago) link
ikr
― Rockcrit from the Tuoms (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 29 December 2010 07:30 (thirteen years ago) link
missing no just needs to chill a lil, i don't wanna scare off ppl who know more about techno than me
yeah apols for missing your pun. keep the ad homs coming though, you'll be reposted in zing thread in no time
― missingNO, Wednesday, 29 December 2010 07:31 (thirteen years ago) link
Apparently Actress samples Youtube in his beats, tons of tightly edited low bitrate samples stacked layer upon layer.
It definitely seems like a reasonable comparison to the original Musique Concrete guys.
And I'm a big Hieroglyphic Being fan and don't feel that Actress is at all a bad comparison.
With Jamal its huge amounts material to dig through, with Actress: 2 minute long tracks.
Maybe the argument should be between brevity and long-windedness?
― sistern, Wednesday, 29 December 2010 08:01 (thirteen years ago) link
hmmm i don't really dig jamal moss very much and i don't think it's a great comparison unless you fixate on certain aspects of actress and the much better end of jamal moss.
the r&b-ish parts ("purple splazsh", "wrong potion") are the bits i like least. love love love the pleasantly spacy/funky IDM parts ("hubble", "bubble butts", "the kettle men"). i loathe the todd edwards influenced parts.
it didn't make my top 10, but it would've made #11 and if i made a list just on amount of time spent listening this would've been in the top 10.
i have hazyville but haven't really given it a listen ... what about his nonplus release? that was sick.
― moonship journey to baja, Wednesday, 29 December 2010 08:03 (thirteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bbSd7vgG-JA
^^ sounds more like urban tribe to me than burial or todd e
― moonship journey to baja, Wednesday, 29 December 2010 08:04 (thirteen years ago) link
srsly off topic but jamal moss is 75% wack
― moonship journey to baja, Wednesday, 29 December 2010 08:08 (thirteen years ago) link
as is being detroit/chicago nerd, as anyone who witnessed moonship: the early years will certainly attest to
― moonship journey to baja, Wednesday, 29 December 2010 08:09 (thirteen years ago) link
:)
if i did, i would
― Rockcrit from the Tuoms (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 29 December 2010 08:12 (thirteen years ago) link
is this so? have heard this said of other producers, but not of cunningham. which may be to say, "i haven't done the research," but what's (not) done is done. and yeah, if true, that working process does make sense of the phrase/thread title. plus helps explain the pleasant fuzziness of the sound.
― contenderizer, Wednesday, 29 December 2010 08:13 (thirteen years ago) link
sounds pleasant but it's a little too clever isn't it, calling albums "hazyville" and stuff to bait the hauntology crew?
― moonship journey to baja, Wednesday, 29 December 2010 08:17 (thirteen years ago) link
i just think he's best when he keeps it light, straightforward and beat oriented
― moonship journey to baja, Wednesday, 29 December 2010 08:19 (thirteen years ago) link
I need to dig the album out again and give it another listen, shifted so much stuff around in my room I've got no idea where it is.
This is one of the few albums this year I felt compelled to own on vinyl.
― sistern, Wednesday, 29 December 2010 08:30 (thirteen years ago) link
And yeah, Jamal does have that Sun Ra quality control thing going on. When he's on he's definitely on.
Whereas all the Actress stuff I've heard was at least worth listening to more than once.
Hazyville included, some great shit on there.
― sistern, Wednesday, 29 December 2010 08:32 (thirteen years ago) link
i read the Youtube thing as well and it definitely goes to explain the graininess and warmth of the album -- kinda like an extreme update of the vintage sampler aliasing you hear on classic NY boom bap stuff
the Hieroglyphic Being/Muzique comparisons I only make with reference to Splazsh. it's that slightly unhinged, unpredictable approach to drum programming, wildly unquantized percussion patterns on top of straight 4x4 kicks, crunchy bass drums and hi hats that sizzle, and insanely unfathomable synth lines. he def has a more refined sense of melody and song structure that is his own, overall the album strikes me as an IDM dude's take on the abstract US house sound that's been popular over the past couple of years or so, that just so happens to fit in with the current chillwave/hypnagogic zeitgeist. despite not being crazy on the album, it's at least an interesting direction
basically though, I wanna hear more things like "Hubble" or "Paint, Straw and Bubbles", and less like "Senorita" or "Purple Splazsh"
― missingNO, Wednesday, 29 December 2010 11:57 (thirteen years ago) link
his edit of this on Thriller is cool
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xceQvaDAl08
― missingNO, Wednesday, 29 December 2010 12:01 (thirteen years ago) link
the r&b-ish parts ("purple splazsh", "wrong potion") are the bits i like least.
OTM ... if there was $$$ to be made from making techno tributes to Prince then everyone would have been doing it years ago.
― NoTimeBeforeTime, Wednesday, 29 December 2010 16:08 (thirteen years ago) link
re: hazyville, i like the hardcore references in "again the addiction"
― moonship journey to baja, Thursday, 30 December 2010 02:16 (thirteen years ago) link
and on "crushed", too!
― moonship journey to baja, Thursday, 30 December 2010 03:17 (thirteen years ago) link
this album is so good & not really r&b at all and i don't think people who don't really like r&b would ever mistake this with r&b. feel like the sounds on it are very tube-ey, i visualize a lot of the lines as orange neon lights, something really linear (yet obviously very contorted) about it. way better than james blake although i didn't get the bfd w/ that thread but i also don't know anything about dance music. i've listened to this album on drugs a lot
― flopson, Thursday, 30 December 2010 03:40 (thirteen years ago) link
moonship what's your top 10
― flopson, Thursday, 30 December 2010 03:44 (thirteen years ago) link
my top 10 favorite albums this year
― moonship journey to baja, Thursday, 30 December 2010 03:53 (thirteen years ago) link
moonship what are your top 10 favourite albums this year
― flopson, Thursday, 30 December 2010 03:57 (thirteen years ago) link
top 10 albums
demdike stare - liberation through hearingmartyn - fabric 50ben klock - berghain 04emeralds - does it look like I'm here?dBridge & instra:mental - fabriclive 50flying lotus - cosmogrammashackleton - fabric 55shed - the travellermadlib - medicine show volume 3anthony shakir - frictionalism
top 10 singles
martyn - is this insanity (remixes)mmm - nous sommes mmmwax - 30003eqd - 04locussolus - gunship
and other than that it was all from 2009: 2562, martyn, peverelist, zomby, the rest of that crew, wax and eqd sides by shed, scion versions, levon vincent, t++, dettmann and klock, function stuff on sandwell, milton bradley, frozen border, etc etc it all sounded as relevant or more this year as it did last year, and generally much more than what i read about in a lot of other dance music year-end lists :-(
― moonship journey to baja, Thursday, 30 December 2010 04:08 (thirteen years ago) link
your top 10 is lookin more like a top 5
― flopson, Thursday, 30 December 2010 04:11 (thirteen years ago) link
& thanks
actually i forgot some off of my top 10 list
2562 - demons2562 - rear windowrustie - sunburstjoker - tron
― moonship journey to baja, Thursday, 30 December 2010 04:12 (thirteen years ago) link
what's your top 10, flopson?
― moonship journey to baja, Thursday, 30 December 2010 04:26 (thirteen years ago) link
no dance stuff or anything, and i have difficulty with albums so ten is kind of a stretch but i pretty much love all these
waka flocka flame - flockavellie-40 - revenue retrievinearl sweatshirt - earlgucci mane - mr zone 6/jewelry selectionnht boyz - power triangle
purling hiss - hissteriapc worship - s/t lp and 7" on shdwplypig - magneticsex church - 6 songs by sex churchdrunkdriver - s/t
― flopson, Thursday, 30 December 2010 04:48 (thirteen years ago) link
this demdike stare is awesome
― flopson, Thursday, 30 December 2010 04:56 (thirteen years ago) link
this didn't leave any impression on me the first couple of times i listened to it. i've been assured that it's a grower, tho not sure i care enough to find this out for myself. it's assuredly better than james blake tho.
― lex diamonds (lex pretend), Thursday, 30 December 2010 09:00 (thirteen years ago) link
missingNO: your mentioning of the "slightly unhinged, unpredictable approach to drum programming [&] wildly unquantized percussion patterns on top of straight 4x4 kicks" brings to mind how psyched I was to have learned about Terrence Dixon back in late '08 through Cunningham himself referring to him (along w/ a bunch of other better-known Detroiters, whose approaches I don't hear quite as strongly in Actress' work) as an influence on the 1-sheet blurb for "Hazyville".
Most of the T. Dixon/Population One stuff released on Metroplex and elsewhere that I've heard (from the mid-'90s to recent) has rhythmically really reminded me of Actress, in terms of the funky misalignments, etc.
(Anybody here into Downliners Sekt? A similar-enough aesthetic to warrant asking...)http://boomkat.com/downloads/317164-downliners-sekt-hello-lonely-hold-the-nationhttp://boomkat.com/downloads/367254-downliners-sekt-we-make-hits-not-the-public
― Don't Make Me A Burrito (Craig D.), Thursday, 30 December 2010 14:50 (thirteen years ago) link
Good to see Moonship's list there.
― puff pastry hangman (admrl), Friday, 31 December 2010 19:48 (thirteen years ago) link
what's better
this - FWIW also **BUBBLING** just just outside the top 10, possibly nudging out dbridge or shackleton, FWIW also r&b concréte
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sIPQqf4O9j8
or this - is this r&b concréte
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c1fDsDsJsQg
― moonship journey to baja, Friday, 31 December 2010 23:40 (thirteen years ago) link
downliners sekt have the right sound but the beats are chopped up a little OTT for my taste.
― moonship journey to baja, Friday, 31 December 2010 23:56 (thirteen years ago) link
actress' 2010 top ten features steve poindexter @ #1http://www.boomkat.com/charts.cfm?id=576&gID=11
― sisilafami, Sunday, 2 January 2011 23:42 (thirteen years ago) link
Listening to this now. Not sure I get it - any of it. Tracks have been popping up on random for a while now and they've just sounded like awkward repeating patterns with little structure or development. So I've decided to listen to it as a whole. Don't hear any r'n'b whatsoever. I guess I will have to give it a couple of goes.
― chandelier falling through a bar in a batman costume (dog latin), Thursday, 17 February 2011 00:41 (thirteen years ago) link
what's there to get? it's house music, man. we're hardly talking fucking xenakis here
― missingNO, Thursday, 17 February 2011 02:59 (thirteen years ago) link
I would call Actress neither house music nor easy to get to be honest.
― EDB, Thursday, 17 February 2011 03:20 (thirteen years ago) link
probably my favorite musician of the decade. thick smoke always hanging in the air
― brimstead, Wednesday, 3 November 2021 17:30 (two years ago) bookmarkflaglink
one of my faves of the century. new album roolz
― ava (paolo), Friday, 17 November 2023 21:09 (ten months ago) link
it totally roolz. and the deluxe LP edition comes with an lp copy of 88!
― brimstead, Friday, 17 November 2023 21:31 (ten months ago) link
Funny, this one didn't immediately strike me as much as previous albums, but I went back to it after reading the praise on this thread and it definitely clicked the second time, enough so that I immediately ordered the LP. I think headphones really helped me appreciate this album, and I'm not typically a headphones kind of person
― Paul Ponzi, Friday, 17 November 2023 22:17 (ten months ago) link
love this new album and also his recent mix for Mixmag
― boxedjoy, Friday, 17 November 2023 22:30 (ten months ago) link
i really love this album but it always leaves me wanting to listen to Motorbass
― j.o.h.n. in evanston (john. a resident of chicago.), Saturday, 25 November 2023 20:13 (nine months ago) link
https://actress.bandcamp.com/album/statik
new album out june 7
― ivy., Thursday, 25 April 2024 13:58 (four months ago) link
this is great news, especially since I missed out on the limited-to-100 12" Boomkat had available for about five minutes before it sold out.
I eventually came around to LXXXVIII after initially finding it a little dull, but hoping this one hearkens back to the Honest Jon's era. Smalltown Supersound weirdly seems like a good fit, somehow. that ad copy is horrendous though
― Paul Ponzi, Thursday, 25 April 2024 15:17 (four months ago) link
Enjoyed the RA mix, a collage of unreleased material. Some of it definitely feels like sketches or demos, but it's nice to hear how his mind works and the little things that give it that uncanny vibe.
― Jordan s/t (Jordan), Friday, 31 May 2024 14:25 (three months ago) link
Lol I think only he could get away with an accompanying interview that terse (fewer than 30 words).
― Jordan s/t (Jordan), Friday, 31 May 2024 14:29 (three months ago) link
new record is insane
― ivy., Sunday, 9 June 2024 16:05 (three months ago) link
pure awesome
― brimstead, Sunday, 9 June 2024 16:13 (three months ago) link
like rip and ghettoville combined
― ivy., Sunday, 9 June 2024 16:14 (three months ago) link
whut??! don't tease
― Paul Ponzi, Sunday, 9 June 2024 18:09 (three months ago) link
This is excellent, but also has it really taken this long for an IDM artist to release a track titled “Cafe del Mars”?
― Tim F, Monday, 10 June 2024 01:25 (three months ago) link
Listened to this last night. First one since R.I.P I loved immediately. How great is "Rainlines?"
― Paul Ponzi, Monday, 10 June 2024 11:04 (three months ago) link
beautiful stuff
― he/him hoo-hah (map), Monday, 10 June 2024 18:30 (three months ago) link
i love that the bandcamp description calls it "celestial and ecstatic." i.e. makes you want to be high while you listen to it. i'm getting some 93-97 ae vibes here. "ray" sounds like it could be on amber.
― he/him hoo-hah (map), Monday, 10 June 2024 18:48 (three months ago) link
Can't find it now but am sure I had an email from a clothing company about an Actress figurine, recently.
― djh, Monday, 10 June 2024 19:05 (three months ago) link
"celestial and ecstaticexpansive"
― he/him hoo-hah (map), Monday, 10 June 2024 19:31 (three months ago) link
xp I saw the action figure via this instagram posthttps://www.instagram.com/p/C76cdnDsTqC/?igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==
― brimstead, Monday, 10 June 2024 19:38 (three months ago) link
Liking this a lot on first listen. Getting the Ae vibes and, I'm not sure he'll ever be bucolic, but Cluster as well.
― I would prefer not to. (Chinaski), Monday, 10 June 2024 19:51 (three months ago) link
definitely
― he/him hoo-hah (map), Monday, 10 June 2024 19:54 (three months ago) link
Idk if this album immediately strikes me as top tier Actress, but I am enjoying it. Lots of sounds from the RA mix arranged in a more fully realized form, but still pretty stripped back.
― Jordan s/t (Jordan), Monday, 10 June 2024 19:56 (three months ago) link
Makes me want to hear LXXXVIII again though
― Jordan s/t (Jordan), Monday, 10 June 2024 19:57 (three months ago) link
in addition to the always sublime fields of ambient mist with various leaves sputtering around, parts of this evoke whispery minimal stuff like giegling, dial, smallville, etc.. <3
― brimstead, Wednesday, 26 June 2024 15:57 (two months ago) link
this goes places
― brimstead, Wednesday, 26 June 2024 16:21 (two months ago) link