Oh, I know Heather! At least I know her from the store in Knoxville. Rad store, great gal. I'm tapped but I know some folks who might be into this - will alert 'em. This is a really cool idea.
Friendly advice - I'd offer some sort of physical product (I'm assuming these mixes you're offering are sent via email?) in exchange for pledges.
― If Assholes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport, Sunday, 2 January 2011 00:18 (thirteen years ago) link
Thanks for that offer! You are very sweet. The mixes offered as incentives, though, are the actual mixes named on kickstarter and recorded live by the three of us. We send out the actual mix with our own covers and such.
Are you in Knoxville? When did I meet you? I live in Kill Devil Hills now, though. I left Lost and Found in December to move out here.
― Sister is dating a (CONTROVERSIAL MOD EDIT) (Nijoli), Sunday, 2 January 2011 00:51 (thirteen years ago) link
Verbena dudes / Wooden Wand just launched one of these
― Hem Gems, Wednesday, 5 January 2011 21:03 (thirteen years ago) link
whoa. just found out that one of the cofounders of kickstarter is a guy i went to college with. worked at the college radio station with him. he also posted on ILX for a while.
― congratulations (n/a), Wednesday, 30 March 2011 18:46 (thirteen years ago) link
started this thread e.g.
New from the DFA...
― congratulations (n/a), Wednesday, 30 March 2011 18:52 (thirteen years ago) link
Yancey is one of the kickstarter cofounders?
― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 30 March 2011 18:53 (thirteen years ago) link
http://www.wired.com/magazine/2011/03/ff_kickstarter/all/1
― congratulations (n/a), Wednesday, 30 March 2011 18:58 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah i thought it was common knowledge that yancey was one of the main KS guys. also i always thought of him as a pretty major part of ILM for however many of the early years he was posting.
― some dude, Wednesday, 30 March 2011 19:06 (thirteen years ago) link
I read his on-again/off-again blog for a couple years before I even found ILM and was glad to find him here. Was disappointed when he stopped posting. Cool that that's what he's up to these days.
― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 30 March 2011 19:07 (thirteen years ago) link
kickstarter kickin knowledge
http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lkck96gjE71qz4ede.pngProjects that reach 30% of their funding goal succeed more than 90% of the time. You can see that as the line turns green, the percent of projects that succeed approaches 100%.
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 29 April 2011 16:34 (thirteen years ago) link
that's kind of a "no duh" statistic though, isn't it?
― hong does your geirden gro (some dude), Friday, 29 April 2011 19:18 (thirteen years ago) link
i mean the curve could be steeper or flatter i guess but it's kind of like saying "people who grow to be 5'9" are more likely to end up over 6 feet tall"
― hong does your geirden gro (some dude), Friday, 29 April 2011 19:20 (thirteen years ago) link
we were all 3 feet tall once
― don't judge a book by its jpg (Edward III), Friday, 29 April 2011 19:26 (thirteen years ago) link
― hong does your geirden gro (some dude), Friday, April 29, 2011 7:20 PM (35 minutes ago) Bookmark
i mean, no, not at all. it's more like saying "people that grow to be 3 feet tall almost always end up 10 feet tall."
fwiw on the clickthrough there's way more
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 29 April 2011 19:58 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah, i guess that's a more accurate way of putting it. just seems like a pretty predictable and logical stat that they're dropping like a revelation or truth bomb imo.
― hong does your geirden gro (some dude), Friday, 29 April 2011 20:06 (thirteen years ago) link
idk i mean i phrased it the way i did because the idea that projects reaching 30% get funded fully almost every time is really surprising to me, i would have expected there are a lot of projects that stalled out at higher numbers, or that if there was a threshold like this it would have been much higher--"get to 30% & statistically you're basically there" is way more surmountable as a goal than "promote this until you are all the way there, cause it won't happen otherwise"
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 29 April 2011 20:19 (thirteen years ago) link
btw al i'm following this stuff/bumping this thread cause some ppl i run with are thinking about moving to kickstarter to fund some art projects and i actually wanted to tap yr experience on this, so def don't let me make it sound like i know what i'm talking about.
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 29 April 2011 20:21 (thirteen years ago) link
haha no it's cool -- i guess i have a different way of looking at how KS tends to work for people but i don't know if it's necessarily because of my personal experience with it. but sure lemme know if you have any questions.
― hong does your geirden gro (some dude), Friday, 29 April 2011 20:40 (thirteen years ago) link
By itself, the graphic doesn't mean a lot. For example, what's the breakdown is dollar/valuesas goals.
How does it skew when comparing projects that ask for trivial funding as opposed to those requesting more serious money? What's the impact of publicity or recommendation by big name linkage?
Also, from the pov of the non-user, there's no way to gauge how hard 30 percent is to reach. Is it just a meaningless pass through point on the way to full funding? As presented here, it looks fairly ambiguous without clarification.
― Gorge, Friday, 29 April 2011 20:57 (thirteen years ago) link
seems like people are more reluctant to be the first ones to jump in, or to fund something that looks like a futile effort, but happy to keep the momentum going and give it that last push.
― adult music person (Jordan), Friday, 29 April 2011 21:00 (thirteen years ago) link
that i think is true, but perhaps less true than that imo your project either has what it takes to go the long haul, or is just nowhere near it, with little in between.
― hong does your geirden gro (some dude), Friday, 29 April 2011 21:05 (thirteen years ago) link
Ok my friends all use bandcamp and soundcloud, but I've been doing the mediafire for years now, but I'd like to branch out. What are the differences between the two? Which is better? I really like the soundcloud presentation, and the streaming embedded files, but I wouldn't mind being able to charge for things. Is that a bandcamp thing only? Also, does anyone ever make money off it? Most of my stuff is covers, too, so I don't know if those sites will allow them. Opinions? Suggestions?
― Telephoneface (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 10 August 2011 03:41 (twelve years ago) link
i think soundcloud is way better for sharing, but is not geared towards selling at all - you can link to where your stuff is for sale but can't sell directly on soundcloud.
you can share things fine on bandcamp and it is probably a lot more flexible though. i think there is no good reason not to use both.
― he shit me and it felt like a piss (electricsound), Wednesday, 10 August 2011 03:48 (twelve years ago) link
Also, does anyone ever make money off it?
i'd say we're not in the black yet but it has definitely been worth having
― he shit me and it felt like a piss (electricsound), Wednesday, 10 August 2011 03:49 (twelve years ago) link
Are there any reasons to choose soundcloud? Other than prettier embed graphics?
― Telephoneface (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 10 August 2011 04:03 (twelve years ago) link
well, one good thing is there's an android app for it, and bandcamp won't stream on android
also soundcloud 'feels' better for non-releases, demos etc as bandcamp is more geared towards "albums", but that's more just my opinion
― he shit me and it felt like a piss (electricsound), Wednesday, 10 August 2011 04:06 (twelve years ago) link
also the social networking aspect of SC that BC pretty much doesn't have, if that floats one's boat
― he shit me and it felt like a piss (electricsound), Wednesday, 10 August 2011 04:07 (twelve years ago) link
Can you sell albums/songs on Soundcloud?
― Telephoneface (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 11 August 2011 04:45 (twelve years ago) link
not directly, but you can link to stores/bandcamp etc
― he shit me and it felt like a piss (electricsound), Friday, 12 August 2011 01:45 (twelve years ago) link
I think i post new stuff more frequently on bandcamp, just like the layout better. soundcloud i do mixes (tho also mixcloud now), covers, "singles"
― Dominique, Friday, 12 August 2011 04:15 (twelve years ago) link
hey, thought i'd just do a little bit of shameless self-promotion...i've started a kickstarter to get a digital compilation i just put out for free pressed on vinyl. exclusive tracks from amen dunes, wooden wand, sore eros, xray eyeballs, the renderers, black eagle child and bunches more. there's a link from the kickstarter page to download it. alright, back to your regularly scheduled thread.
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1671364068/press-blackburns-various-deficiencies-vol-2-on-vin
― jonathan - stl, Thursday, 1 September 2011 22:27 (twelve years ago) link
a more important chart
http://static7.businessinsider.com/image/4db9a1cd49e2ae83320e0000/kickstarter-graph.jpg
― sanskrit, Friday, 16 September 2011 16:41 (twelve years ago) link
totaling funding, projects in aggregate.
― sanskrit, Friday, 16 September 2011 16:42 (twelve years ago) link
wow. nearly doubling since the beginning of the year.
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 16 September 2011 16:44 (twelve years ago) link
as someone on my facebook said: 33 grand to start a blog?
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/ricleichtung/ad-hoc
― scott seward, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:29 (twelve years ago) link
kickstarter abuse?
― scott seward, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:30 (twelve years ago) link
although they do say that they are gonna do a print version too. there is that.
Pretty good NYT story on Kickstarter the other day, they interviewed Yancey.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 18:57 (twelve years ago) link
yancey s.? what's he up to?
― scott seward, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:07 (twelve years ago) link
hunter hunt-hendrix isn't the liturgy guy's real name is it? the lana del ray of metal. or maybe it is. kinda unbelievable, but you never know.
― scott seward, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:10 (twelve years ago) link
Corunning Kickstarter! I had almost forgotten that myself -- it's mentioned upthread.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:10 (twelve years ago) link
Meantime, Doug Mosurock on this blog thing is a treat. As are his commenters:
https://www.facebook.com/mosurock/posts/2962663298311
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:11 (twelve years ago) link
ugh, that mosurock thing makes me WANT to donate to this adhoc thing
― fitzroy institution (electricsound), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 22:00 (twelve years ago) link
It can't be any more odious than requiring FB membership in order to read the damned thing. Data mine THIS, Zuckerberg.
― doug watson, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 23:39 (twelve years ago) link
i don't understand some of the stuff on kickstarter that has like $10,000+ in funding. i thought people were poor now.
― congratulations (n/a), Friday, 10 February 2012 21:08 (twelve years ago) link
the whole IDEA of kickstarter is that you can raise that kind of money from a large number of people who might only be able to individually contribute in the single or double digits, dude
― some dude, Friday, 10 February 2012 21:24 (twelve years ago) link
yeah haven't you seen Breaking Bad?
― scott seward, Friday, 10 February 2012 21:25 (twelve years ago) link
how much money do you think i could make with a kickstarter to never post on ilx ever again?
― congratulations (n/a), Friday, 10 February 2012 21:42 (twelve years ago) link
not as much as some people!
― some dude, Friday, 10 February 2012 21:42 (twelve years ago) link
:(
― congratulations (n/a), Friday, 10 February 2012 21:43 (twelve years ago) link
Damn, if they lose the editorial side, that's a huge loss and a bad sign.
― Jordan s/t (Jordan), Thursday, 28 September 2023 17:13 (eight months ago) link
Epic is doing layoffs with its remaining companies but is anyone saying they've been laid off from Bandcamp yet?
― Chris L, Thursday, 28 September 2023 17:16 (eight months ago) link
i think they just sold it off, rather than axe personnel
― is he disgruntled adrian? (voodoo chili), Thursday, 28 September 2023 17:18 (eight months ago) link
does anyone else have a bad feeling that bandcamp is just going to die by a thousand cuts and be left in the ether like myspace? i have a few albums i want to put out next year, and the thought of uploading them there just feels like dumping into a void to me. am i too pessimistic about this? i'd rather just make CDs and ship them out, but i also don't want to limit access or be awkward about it...
― maelin, Sunday, 5 November 2023 11:44 (seven months ago) link
I wouldn't stop uploading to Bandcamp (all my stuff is on there) but I'd start looking at similar alternative sites as well.
― you gotta roll with the pączki to get to what's real (snoball), Sunday, 5 November 2023 14:34 (seven months ago) link
Gotta love the new Bandcamp:
Subtotal: 2.00Additional fan contribution: 3.00Revenue share (15%): -0.75Applied to your revenue share balance*: -3.94Payment processor fee (PayPal): -0.31Your share: $0.00 USD
How can we have a 'revenue share balance' if they take their cut right off the top anway? Bullshit
― Andy the Grasshopper, Monday, 29 January 2024 19:02 (four months ago) link
that is not a new bandcamp thing though, i see it in payments as early as 2015
― na (NA), Monday, 29 January 2024 19:07 (four months ago) link
i dont understand why, but for physical sales they dont take the revenue share cut on the actual transaction, they bill it against future digital sales
― waste of compute (One Eye Open), Monday, 29 January 2024 19:11 (four months ago) link
Maybe because they're not involved in fulfillment? Whereas with digital they're in charge of everything
― Andy the Grasshopper, Monday, 29 January 2024 19:15 (four months ago) link
No idea how big of a YouTuber this guy is (and how that would skew the numbers) but that’s a pretty decent alternative to streaming.
It’s been 6 months since I removed my music from all music streaming platformsI’ve independently released 3 new albums direct to consumer since thenHere’s where we are today👇🏽Bandcamp: $4,471Even: $4,087.66Website: $3,082Total = $11,640.66Equivalent to 3.4 m streams— Curtiss King 🏁🛠 (@CurtissKing) May 23, 2024
― papal hotwife (milo z), Friday, 24 May 2024 02:09 (one month ago) link
Having to produce 66 albums a year is hard work, though.
― Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Friday, 24 May 2024 07:03 (one month ago) link
Fuck, 6, not 66.
Hey Bandcamp developers! Give me an option to auto wishlist every new release by artists and labels I follow
― calstars, Friday, 7 June 2024 22:39 (two weeks ago) link