Jesus and Mary Chain Mania!

xpost what the "You're all a bunch of fucking pish" song?

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A generous friend has just given me his advance of this beautiful package. I love everything about it except perhaps the typeface for the band name which is a bit Vespertine-ish.

Haven't gone through it all yet except to say that the tracks that I have previously on CD sound much better here and much more like the vinyl (although maybe the vocals are a little too clear).

Right away the first track, the achingly lovely "Up Too High (demo '83)" is a revelation. I had always assumed that the "On The Wall (porta studio demo)" was made just before Darklands was recorded but I'm now of the opinion that it too was recorded with "Up Too High" in the very early days. The delicate arrangement is very much at odds with the brutally shambolic bootlegs I have from the same period and really both spotlights their seemingly innate melodic gifts and also amplifies the perversity of drowning such lovely songs in feedback.

There are so many things I'm excited about finally having on CD like "Vegetable Man", "Ambition", "Happy When It Rains (demo)" etc.

The included poster/family tree is lovely and I'm definitely going to frame the singles covers to remind me of how much this band defined rock and roll for me.

Only thing I still really want to hear is that early cover of "Somebody to Love".

I'd also like a CD quality version of the "Some Candy Talking" version from the NME 7".

I saw this thread title and for a split second thought it was an ITV1 Saturday night show where Zoe Ball pays tribute to the East Kilbride reprobates with a star-studded cast including Tony Hadley ("Never Understand"), Jamelia ("Sidewalking") and Vernon Out Of Corrie ("Reverence").

If girls aloud are doing "Happy when it rains" wearing macs and umbrellas....

"Step back, an watch the sweet thing.."

We might get Gabriela Climi tackling "Upside Down": "Owowowoo tha shaaaaan cammmes up anaddah diyyy bege-heee-aaaans &c."

but oh noe, here comes him out of G4 to over-sing "Hiiiigh want to trip youuu uuuhpppp"...

Is The Hardest Walk the version off that soundtrack?

ooh, i love the on the wall demo, i've never heard them do anything else like it. i always meant to buy the happy when it rains 10" to see what the demo of that was like.

i agree about the typeface, it's a little twenty-first century makeover.

On The Wall demo is on the Darklands 7", unless it's on Happy When It Rains 10" as well for some reason.

Oh wait you meant the demo of Happy When It Rains n/m

The Jesus & Mary Chain are set to headline a one-off show in commemoration of musician & railwayman Nick Sanderson who sadly passed away on June 8th of this year.

The show, to take place at The Forum in London on October 27th 2008, will also feature sets from Black Box Recorder, British Sea Power and a DJ set from Jim Fry & Gordon King of Sanderson’s final group, Earl Brutus.

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That would be a decent gig if it wasn't for the Jesus and Mary Chain.

Now now...

Word is that Bobby Gillespie's replacing Bannatyne in the next series of Dragons Den. He'll make short shrift of any future would-be Hamfatters...

Is The Hardest Walk the version off that soundtrack?

Yes.

ooh, i love the on the wall demo, i've never heard them do anything else like it. i always meant to buy the happy when it rains 10" to see what the demo of that was like.

The "Happy When It Rains" demo is lovely but is drum-less. "Up Too High" has the same reverbed drum machine as the "On The Wall" demo.

I wasn't going to get the b-sides collection, but then I did and wow I'm surprised by how many songs from it I remember well *and* by how good it still sounds. I haven't heard a lot of these in 10 or so years.

Still can't decide if I prefer the debut to Barbed Wire Kisses, and I miss Mushroom which is oddly missing in action. I'd stopped following them by Honey's Dead (did get Munki though) and thus never heard Rollercoaster, which turns out to be great. Can't emphasize enough how much I didn't expect them to sound good in 2008, and how wrong I was.

Finally got round to listening to disc 1 of this. Vegetable Man sounds quite different to the vinyl version, it's obviously the same version but it's been remixed or something. For the better, maybe, there's a lot more separation, you can hear the vocals/guitar noise/etc a lot better whereas my old 7" sounds like a big pile of murk.

Maybe it's from the 12", I'll have to check...

I don't think it's that - listening to Suck & Ambition and I get the same impression, and I have that 12".

It says "Never Understand" Alt version.. Can you tell the difference?

Haven't got that far yet. Head definitely sounds remixed compared to the Barbed Wire Kisses version, not sure it's for the better this time.

I'd forgotten how great "Suck" was...

Never Understand is a bit different. The drums are louder. The feedback sounds different.

vegetable man sounds the same to me, or very close.

the echo effect on suck seems new, yes.

ambition, not so different afaict. although i don't remember as much swearing.

funny how the swirls of feedback on never understand, which are random by their very nature, how obvious it is when they are different (worse) from what you're used to.

(heard a busker doing it acoustically once, it's a nice little song under all that noise)

the power of negative thinking box set is on sale on rhino's online store for $36 buck right now!

http://www.rhino.com/shop/product/the-jesus-and-mary-chain-the-power-of-negative-thinking-b-sides-and-rarities?eml=rn/012811/jamctop

:D

Thats a great box, well worth it.

Funny this thread was revived this morning. I listened to Munki on my commute home last night and got to wondering, again, why it seems to be so dismissed. I mean, no, it's not a top-tier album of theirs, but its pretty enjoyable throughout.

damn good price on a damn good box set (too bad i already paid $55 or so back in the day)

munki isn't bad by any means, but it's almost a pointless listen b/c i prefer all of the five other records + the b-sides comps over it -- not where i immediately turn when i need my mary chain fix

I dug it out recently, and it's all right, actually pretty good.

It suffers though, because it came out well after they'd made it (was going to be the 'next' album for Warners, but they rejected it).

But, as you say, the other albums have their particular identities, whereas this was 'all encompassing' and too long.

Still, UK buyers beware: The customs and excise will take this, charge you £3 VAT and then £12 handling charge, or something similar.

I listened to Munki on my commute home last night and got to wondering, again, why it seems to be so dismissed.

'birthday' & 'commercial' are jams.

crackin'up is one of the best jamc songs

Still, UK buyers beware: The customs and excise will take this, charge you £3 VAT and then £12 handling charge, or something similar.

Probably cheaper to pay the £32.99 from Rhino UK.

I like the odd J&MC track but they've never fully clicked for me. I may take the plunge on the first two albums in what looks like an outstanding reissue series:
http://www.slicingupeyeballs.com/2011/07/05/jesus-mary-chain-reissues-psychocandy-darklands-tracklists/

I have the albums from the last time they were reissued, plus that four-CD Rhino box that came out a few years ago; that's all I need. As far as the TV appearances and live stuff is concerned, I thought the long-established consensus was that they sucked live. Hell, I thought that was half the point.

Yeah, this is cool but since I have the albums & the box set, this doesn't look worth it to me.

they were terrible on the Automatic tour, that's for sure

I saw them twice and I think they were a great live band in small venues/clubs and a poor live band in theatres/big venues. In the club the volume was more impressive and enveloping and it was fun to be a few feet away from them. On a big stage they just looked like they were standing around waiting for a bus and the venue ate up all the oppresiveness of the sound.

OTM I saw them in a small club in Reading and they were great. Until Jim Reid stormed offstage in the middle of a song for some reason, but they'd played a full set by then anyway.

Some tracks on these reissues that weren't on the box set, like Jesus Fuck for the first time ever.

I saw JAMC twice after the comeback and they were very very weak live

I was leaning towards rebuying Psychocandy in this reissue, but they've sullied it by clagging six b-side tracks at the end of the actual album.

And anyway, Jesus Fuck is more or less like ten other clangy-shouty-feedbacky b-sides that they put out.

I was leaning towards rebuying Psychocandy in this reissue, but they've sullied it by clagging six b-side tracks at the end of the actual album.

― Officer Pupp, Tuesday, July 12, 2011 2:43 PM (43 minutes ago) Bookmark

don't understand this. CDs are a disposable delivery device for files, right?

I saw the mary chain five or six times & the only time they didn't absolutely RAWK was on the Munki tour after William had bailed. They even outstaged most of the acts on the 92 Lollapalooza roster in broad daylight in the middle of the afternoon!

wait I spent lots of money to buy the rhino reissues - what's the diff this time around?? I could go visit the link but I prefer to be indignant.