does anyone still like Belle and Sebastian?

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'Landslide' sounds like B&S covering the Spice Girls.

Surprisingly, this isn't such a bad thing.

hobart paving (hobart paving), Thursday, 12 August 2004 07:10 (nineteen years ago) link

I think it sounds Phil Spectorish, and that sound was also an influence on the Spice Girls, so in that sense you're right.

MarkH (MarkH), Thursday, 12 August 2004 07:12 (nineteen years ago) link

Perhaps. But it also sounds JUST like the Spice Girls singing 'Stop'

There's the part where they sing something like 'la la la too fast/ la la la won't last' when the next line could very easily be 'Stop right now, thank you very much..'

I'm always a little disappointed that it isn't.

hobart paving (hobart paving), Thursday, 12 August 2004 07:14 (nineteen years ago) link

> 'London Has Let Me Down, Again', 'Hurley', 'Pocketbook Angel'

as ailsa said, those aren't Black Sessions but really early unreleased demos that, er, somehow got leaked into the public domain by unscrupulous bootleggers with probable links to terrorism...

koogs (koogs), Thursday, 12 August 2004 08:13 (nineteen years ago) link

Have I got them? Oh I wish Mooro was here...

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Thursday, 12 August 2004 08:27 (nineteen years ago) link

Wasn't 'Landslide' originally done with Evie Sands? It would have been a belter.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Thursday, 12 August 2004 08:29 (nineteen years ago) link

Somebody ought to cover "The Magic of a Kind Word" seeing as B&S obv. won't release it now. I know N. disagrees with me about this song. He described it as "rubbishy" IIRC.

MarkH (MarkH), Thursday, 12 August 2004 09:05 (nineteen years ago) link

I miss N.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Thursday, 12 August 2004 09:18 (nineteen years ago) link

he's in a better place now.

I didn't realise Landslide had been done in the studio - only live I thought.

I've seen London has let me down et al tacked on to a few black sessions (which is Paris iirc) tapes.

Magic of a kind word is pretty crappy though

Porkpie (porkpie), Thursday, 12 August 2004 10:08 (nineteen years ago) link

I've heard the Evie Sands version once only - Beanz played it at a Divine after show party. I think Mooro went and asked him who it was, and he said "Evie Sands" and also that it was likely to be released at some point. Has it ever been?

Madchen (Madchen), Thursday, 12 August 2004 13:42 (nineteen years ago) link

I don't think so. One for the box set, perhaps.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Thursday, 12 August 2004 14:39 (nineteen years ago) link

I know not Evie Sands.

The version I was on about was live, and badly breathless.

What is THE BLACK SESSIONS, then?

I think I heard 'The Magic Of A Kind Word' yesterday. How does it go?

the bellefox, Thursday, 12 August 2004 16:18 (nineteen years ago) link

'Black Sessions' is the name given to a series of live sessions broadcast on France Inter, presented by John Peel-like figure Bernard Lenoir (Le rock, le soir… c'est Lenoir!). B&S did one back in 1998.

Alba (Alba), Thursday, 12 August 2004 16:27 (nineteen years ago) link

Oh, those: I have heard those, yesterday. They are not as good as the Bootlegs.

the bellefox, Thursday, 12 August 2004 16:30 (nineteen years ago) link

Being for the benefit of Mrs Archel and other Brighton Bellenders, not to mention Leo Sayer fans:

(from B&S website)

Stuart DJ'ing in Brighton Thu 19th Aug - 2004


Stuart Murdoch will be the special guest DJ this Saturday night - August 21st - at Holdup at the Arc Club in Brighton, on the seafront. He'll play a two-hour set filled with indie classics and 80's pop hits. Doors are at 10pm and it's £5 in on the door, curfew at 3am. Go along and shake your thing!

Go along! Report Back!

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Friday, 20 August 2004 10:33 (nineteen years ago) link

DJs are overrated, aren't they.

But some of them I like.

the bellefox, Friday, 20 August 2004 15:20 (nineteen years ago) link

For the first time in agee, I'm listening to Stuart Murdoch's most emo moment, 'I'm Waking Up To Us'. Maybe he wrote it better with 'I'm A Cuckoo' but for now, it's getting me.

Alba (Alba), Friday, 20 August 2004 15:49 (nineteen years ago) link

I don't understand half of that.

I have always said that that song was very very good. Are you saying that you now agree that I was right all along?

the bellefox, Friday, 20 August 2004 15:52 (nineteen years ago) link

I haven’t changed, how could I?
I’m pretty much the same person
I cannot keep the anger hidden anymore
But lucky for you, you are not around
My anger turns to pity and to love
The season has arrived

x-post, Oh, I always liked it - sorry bf!

Alba (Alba), Friday, 20 August 2004 15:53 (nineteen years ago) link

Does emo mean emotional?

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Friday, 20 August 2004 15:58 (nineteen years ago) link

I guess.

Alba (Alba), Friday, 20 August 2004 16:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Also, I never really got how similarly bitter 'The Stars Of Track & Field' was until Murdoch introduced it as such at the Botanics show.

Alba (Alba), Friday, 20 August 2004 16:01 (nineteen years ago) link

Ne meither.

JtN said that someone said that emo meant being angry about being sad. As you can see, I have not forgotten what he said, JtN, or whoever else it was.

the bellefox, Friday, 20 August 2004 16:03 (nineteen years ago) link

one year passes...
Report Back, you bastards.

I have heard it on the grapevine that Jordi was there.

(If there's one thing that really makes me fume, it is being sad!)

PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Monday, 26 September 2005 10:18 (eighteen years ago) link

I have also heard it on the grapevine that Our Heroes have been left off the Warchild CD, which is a great disappointment.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Monday, 26 September 2005 10:19 (eighteen years ago) link

OK, don't bother, misery gutses.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Monday, 26 September 2005 10:31 (eighteen years ago) link

I wasn't there. I too would like some REPORTING BACK, please. I hope there were silver trousers.

ailsa (ailsa), Monday, 26 September 2005 10:44 (eighteen years ago) link

Are you talking about the Don't Look Back show, yesterday?

From another board:

Phew...what a show...the spruced up Sinsiter sounded amazing, and that had to be the best Judy i've seen them play.....and what great seats, 4 rows from the front, slap bang in the middle! they also played....in not this order:

slow grafitti
dog on wheels
the loneliness of the middle distance runner
electronic renaissance
i'm a cuckoo
the boy with the arab strap
the wrong girl
if you find yourself caught in love

(and a couple of others i forget)

as I said there: Envy, thy name is me!

sean gramophone (Sean M), Monday, 26 September 2005 11:03 (eighteen years ago) link

Aha! J'ai trouve le PhotoRobsterReportage ici:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/29632983@N00/46732859/

PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Monday, 26 September 2005 11:15 (eighteen years ago) link

Warning: contains Ken Chu content.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Monday, 26 September 2005 11:16 (eighteen years ago) link

I wondered about that War Child CD, as there was too much stuff for one CD.

mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 26 September 2005 11:19 (eighteen years ago) link

electronic renaissance, shut up

RJG (RJG), Monday, 26 September 2005 11:38 (eighteen years ago) link

The 45, 'I'm Waking Up To Us', is good!

So are the 2nd and last LPs. I played them, yesterday and today!

the bellefox, Monday, 26 September 2005 15:38 (eighteen years ago) link

I've played Dear Catastrophe Waitress
a heckuva lot over the last couple of months.

Don King of the Mountain (noodle vague), Monday, 26 September 2005 15:41 (eighteen years ago) link

Can't you enunciate and still sound like you're providing some kind of support for your tone?
-- sundar subramanian (sundar_subramanian200...), March 26th, 2003.


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Tone support is for nasty bullies.
-- Tom (ebro...), March 26th, 2003.

What on earth is Tone Support, and why did I not ask this question 2.5 years ago?

the bellefox, Monday, 26 September 2005 15:50 (eighteen years ago) link

eight months pass...
I am going to a concert, this evening, in Hyde Park. I must still like them. WAITROSE MOVEMENT are playing too, but in a different tent. There is a Pimm's Bar, which I must smash.

It is a pity I woke up at 3 this morning.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Wednesday, 21 June 2006 13:02 (eighteen years ago) link

WAITROSE MOVEMENT is a fine name for a group.

I trust that they have reached the appropriate copyright agreements.

Were you planning to smash a Pimm's Bar, I would not advise doing so with Eno.

Which in itself would be a pity, but health and safety regulations exist for good reasons.

Perhaps one day I will think of one.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 21 June 2006 13:19 (eighteen years ago) link

The Life Pursuit is their best in a long time. Consistently catchy songs.

Matt Olken (Moodles), Wednesday, 21 June 2006 13:26 (eighteen years ago) link

I don't understand the hatred for "Beyond the Sunrise".
It doesn't fit in with the rest of the album, or even the rest of their albums, for sure.

But if you were watching Butch Cassidy & the Sundance Kid for the first time, and the song was on the soundtrack, wouldn't you enjoy it?

Maybe not.

Zachary Scott (Zach S), Wednesday, 21 June 2006 13:34 (eighteen years ago) link

I still consider Dear Catastrophe Waitress to be better than The Life Pursuit. But I still like them, even though I have moved on to other things. It's nice when shuffle brings the odd song in.

steal compass, drive north, disappear (tissp), Wednesday, 21 June 2006 13:46 (eighteen years ago) link

Nope.

"It's nice when shuffle brings the odd song in."

But this could be a distinct possibility at some point in the future.

alan w (uzumaki), Wednesday, 21 June 2006 15:36 (eighteen years ago) link

NO!!! Certainly not!!! I couldn't possibly think their new album is the best thing they've done since they did things folks who post on messageboards weren't too falsely superior to listen to!!! A baldfaced lie, that!

marc h. (marc h.), Thursday, 22 June 2006 00:15 (eighteen years ago) link

"Dress Up In You" reminds me of The Silence of the Lambs.

Marmot 4-Tay (marmotwolof), Thursday, 22 June 2006 01:04 (eighteen years ago) link

I don't see that particular comparison... I think it's a lot more restrained and measured than, say, Costello's "I Want You" (which does sound legitimately disturbing to me). In any event, it's probably my favorite song of the year so far, and I wouldn't be at all surprised if the album as a whole ended up no. 1 for me this year either. (It certainly would've done so had it been released in '05... but '05 was a dismal year in general.)

As for Dear Catastrophe Waitress, I found I liked it a lot more after I got into the habit of starting it on Track 3. (Occasionally Track 2, but this is more out of a misguided sense of completism than anything else.)

Also opposed to this smashing plan -- Eno takes Pimm's bars by strategy.

Pessimist (Pessimist), Thursday, 22 June 2006 03:05 (eighteen years ago) link

"If I could have a second skin, I'd probably dress up in you" - Buffalo Bill

Nevermind.

Marmot 4-Tay (marmotwolof), Thursday, 22 June 2006 04:22 (eighteen years ago) link

I got it Marmot 4-Tay, even before the expalanation.

I did not smash up the Pimms Bar, as it was probably the most pleasant spot on the site, apart from the mingling cacophonies.

The Strokes were so RUBBISH!

The Raconteurs were so RUBBISH!

I liked Super Furry Animals, but their big top was full up. I would like to go and see them properly one day.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Thursday, 22 June 2006 06:51 (eighteen years ago) link

The new album made them more interesting than they've been in a long time, but I can't help thinking that it may be time for them to reform with a different name since seeing Belle and Sebastian on the album made me exponentially less likely to listen to it.
(And still, it is only an OK album...)

js (honestengine), Thursday, 22 June 2006 07:53 (eighteen years ago) link

two years pass...

The BBC Sessions album est arrive.

Mark G, Sunday, 9 November 2008 22:32 (fifteen years ago) link

disc 1
1. State I Am In
2. Like Dylan In The Movies
3. Judy And The Dream Of Horses
4. Stars Of Track And Field
5. I Could Be Dreaming
6. Seymour Stein
7. Lazy Jane
8. Sleep The Clock Around
9. Slow Graffiti
10. Wrong Love
11. Shoot The Sexual Athlete
12. Magic Of A Kind Word
13. Nothing In The Silence
14. My Girl's Got Miraculous Technique
disc 2
1. Here Comes The Sun [live in Belfast]
2. There's Too Much Love [live in Belfast]
3. Magic Of A Kind Word [live in Belfast]
4. Me And The Major [live in Belfast]
5. Wandering Alone [live in Belfast]
6. Model [live in Belfast]
7. I'm Waiting For The Man [live in Belfast]
8. Boy With The Arab Strap [live in Belfast]
9. Wrong Girl [live in Belfast]
10. Dirty Dream 2 [live in Belfast]
11. Boys Are Back In Town [live in Belfast]
12. Legal Man [live in Belfast]

Mark G, Sunday, 9 November 2008 22:33 (fifteen years ago) link

Often referred to as the 'greatest Scottish band ever', Belle & Sebastian have enjoyed critical success throughout their career. Currently on hiatus - with no plans to record any new material in the near future - the band present 'The BBC Sessions', which features tracks from the time of their formation in 1996 right up until 2001. The sessions also contain the group's last recordings with departed cellist Isobel Campbell.

Mark G, Sunday, 9 November 2008 22:33 (fifteen years ago) link


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