Iggy Vs The Corrs

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I didn't say spitting was "wild". I was merely refuting your rather sweeping generalization. Cheese monkey!

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 13 January 2003 21:40 (twenty-one years ago) link

"Beyond that, I'd really love to live in this wacky alternate universe where EVERYONE knows EVERYTHING about Iggy Pop."

What do you reckon Alex? Should we let him in or not?

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Monday, 13 January 2003 21:40 (twenty-one years ago) link

he knew abt who the corrs were and he spat on them for the headlines, serving up some crap story for the entertainment columns. fucking pathetic.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Monday, 13 January 2003 21:42 (twenty-one years ago) link

"not knowing abt the industry is one of the roolz of punk stewart. breaking away from history and all."

Claiming to not know about the industry was one of the more fatuous and easily refuted claims of a vociferous handful of punk bands, certainly.....

Are you saying The Corrs are the new Sex Pistols?

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Monday, 13 January 2003 21:43 (twenty-one years ago) link

''Caroline would never go for a fatuous cheese monkey like yourself, Julio, as she's clearly afraid of food.''

I'm really fit as mark s will testify. caroline is mine.

''Are you saying The Corrs are the new Sex Pistols?''

the pistols were a one off.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Monday, 13 January 2003 21:46 (twenty-one years ago) link

"he knew abt who the corrs were and he spat on them for the headlines, serving up some crap story for the entertainment columns. fucking pathetic."

If that's true - and if it is I have to agree with you - did it succeed in getting any coverage anywhere?

I haven't heard about it anywhere other than here (and no-one I've mentioned it too has seemed to have heard about it); but then I do make a very specific point of NOT reading the entertainment columns....

If it was a publicity stunt, were The Corrs in on it?

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Monday, 13 January 2003 21:47 (twenty-one years ago) link

"the pistols were a one off."

Very true - but a one off who were heavily influenced by The Stooges of course.

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Monday, 13 January 2003 21:48 (twenty-one years ago) link

"he knew abt who the corrs were and he spat on them for the headlines"

Weren't some of the Corrs Corps zealoulsy alledging that he didn't, in fact, know it was them?

When has Iggy *EVER* cared about headlines? It's not like he's ever had a squeaky clean image nor high-selling track record to defend.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 13 January 2003 21:50 (twenty-one years ago) link

I'd also like to point out to everyone here that the incident in question happened back in what? July? I'm sure all parties concerned have well moved on and forgotten about it, further emphasizing the pointlessness of this particular debate.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 13 January 2003 21:52 (twenty-one years ago) link

''If that's true - and if it is I have to agree with you - did it succeed in getting any coverage anywhere?''

I don't read the entertainment columns either so i wouldn't know. the show was in dublin so it might have got coverage there.

''Very true - but a one off who were heavily influenced by The Stooges of course.''

no it was early rock n'roll with lydon on vocals (which is why they were 'acceptable' to these ears).


Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Monday, 13 January 2003 21:53 (twenty-one years ago) link

''When has Iggy *EVER* cared about headlines? It's not like he's ever had a squeaky clean image nor high-selling track record to defend.''

I think he cares about it. if he's stops selling he gets dropped by the rec company.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Monday, 13 January 2003 21:55 (twenty-one years ago) link

anyway, must go.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Monday, 13 January 2003 21:56 (twenty-one years ago) link

Ig's at a point where even if he were dropped by Virgin (not unheard of, given the piss-poor performance of BEAT'EM UP), he'd be snatched up by another label based on his rep alone. Moreover, I honestly don't think he'd really care.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 13 January 2003 21:57 (twenty-one years ago) link

"When has Iggy *EVER* cared about headlines? It's not like he's ever had a squeaky clean image nor high-selling track record to defend."

I think the point is / was / would have been that it [would have] promoted precisely the opposite image - which is, of course, the one he trades on.

"[The 'Pistols were] early rock n'roll with lydon on vocals.

Even when The 'Pistols were busily denying any links with "that necrophiliac rock 'n' roll", The Stooges were one of the few bands that they were prepared to cite as a major influence - they even even covered "No Fun"....

Actually, from what I know of your musical tastes, I am genuinely surprised that you don't rate Fun House, Julio.

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Monday, 13 January 2003 22:03 (twenty-one years ago) link

i missed all this...did the corrs make a statement? maybe they were at the gig because they knew of IGGys reputation and were well pleased when he spagged on them?

gaz (gaz), Monday, 13 January 2003 22:18 (twenty-one years ago) link

this was a lot more interesting/funny when there were real live Corrs fans around. Watching you guys bicker about Iggy and his career is *yawnsville*

Shakey Mo Collier, Monday, 13 January 2003 22:30 (twenty-one years ago) link

As I said before expecting the Corrs to go to concerts where they're familiar with the artist and not for any other reason is just as insane as expecting Iggy not to "be Iggy" in concert.

Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, 14 January 2003 08:56 (twenty-one years ago) link

haha, this is great: just when this amazing thread seemed ready to slow down it seems it's going to take a detour into dreaded SEX PISTOLS = RAWK OR NOT? territory! NOW IT WILL NEVER END!

Justyn Dillingham (Justyn Dillingham), Tuesday, 14 January 2003 09:10 (twenty-one years ago) link

"Where have all the devoted hard-Corr fans gone btw? Not home from school yet?"
HA! once again, little do u people know. Maybe we just dont give a shit about what you say! as far as we're concerned, none of you exsist. the only reason any of us replied is for a laugh. so, we'll leave you people to it, off to the pub i think, and i might slay a few people on the way.

Rachel, Tuesday, 14 January 2003 10:53 (twenty-one years ago) link

corrs fans = brilliant punk rock goblins!!
iggy fans = anal and earnest bottle-top collectors!!

who knew!!??

mark s (mark s), Tuesday, 14 January 2003 10:55 (twenty-one years ago) link

I LOVED EVERY MINUTE OF IT!

Andrea Corr, Tuesday, 14 January 2003 10:59 (twenty-one years ago) link

They're all just goblins to me mark.

Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, 14 January 2003 11:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

Andrea, if I did take back what I said and promise to denounce Iggy Pop do you think there any chance that....?

No, thought not.

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Tuesday, 14 January 2003 11:14 (twenty-one years ago) link

andrea i don't want you. i want caroline so go away.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Tuesday, 14 January 2003 11:59 (twenty-one years ago) link

Congratulations "Iggy Vs The Corrs" on reaching your 250th message. Not many threads hit this golden number and I'm sure all of ILX will join with me in wishing you many more posts in the future.

Tom (Groke), Tuesday, 14 January 2003 12:01 (twenty-one years ago) link

all we need now is caroline.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Tuesday, 14 January 2003 12:20 (twenty-one years ago) link

Yeah......in "the ready position".

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 14 January 2003 13:37 (twenty-one years ago) link

Mark, Tom, Julio --

Right at the outset, I want to make a few things completely clear: Since I haven't liked anything Iggy's done in about twenty years, I wouldn't describe myself as a 'fanboy.' Moreover, I've never knowingly heard the Corrs, and I have no opinion on them one way or the other.

As a lawyer, I'm very interested in the idea of burden of proof. In this situation, I think the burden of proof would be on those who are criticizing Iggy's behavior rather than those who find it amusing.

The argument that Iggy doesn't have a reputation for spitting on people is asinine. Iggy has a reputation for doing stupid and gross things. Spitting is a stupid and gross thing. It's not too hard to draw the lines.

I'm very sorry that Andrea Corr got spat on and found it to be disgusting. If Iggy had spat on me I too would be disgusted. Perhaps I'm just unlucky that I don't have a bunch of fans I can rely upon to attack him for me.

Bottom line: if he spat on somebody non-famous, we wouldn't even have heard about it, and I barely heard about it as it is.

IHBT. IHL. HAND!

J (Jay), Tuesday, 14 January 2003 18:04 (twenty-one years ago) link

''Bottom line: if he spat on somebody non-famous, we wouldn't even have heard about it, and I barely heard about it as it is.''

if he had spat on somebody non-famous he might have got beaten up and then we would have heard about it.

I don't think he would have spat on anyone non-famous tho'. not nowdays, anyway.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Tuesday, 14 January 2003 18:09 (twenty-one years ago) link

Are you kidding, Julio? For a start, Iggy's in fine shape to this day, and anyone attempting to beat him up might have a tougher task on their hands than anticipated. Secondly, He probably spits -- intentionally or otherwise -- on plenty of folks every time he performs.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 14 January 2003 18:17 (twenty-one years ago) link

"in fine shape" = "looks like an anorexic teen"

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 14 January 2003 18:18 (twenty-one years ago) link

Taken in 2002:

http://rockiguana.free.fr/pics/vienne1.jpg

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 14 January 2003 18:22 (twenty-one years ago) link

''He probably spits''

prob=> you don't know then. and here i wuz thinking you knew everything there is to know about Iggy.

''Iggy's in fine shape to this day''

does he know kung fu as well?

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Tuesday, 14 January 2003 18:25 (twenty-one years ago) link

"in fine shape" = "looks like an anorexic old man with disproportionate biceps"

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 14 January 2003 18:26 (twenty-one years ago) link

"prob=> you don't know then. and here i wuz thinking you knew everything there is to know about Iggy."

You just can't stand it when I'm right, can you!

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 14 January 2003 18:26 (twenty-one years ago) link

http://rockiguana.free.fr/reviews/memphis.htm

http://www.geocities.com/mnennoburke/news4.html

http://www.bomp.com/Iguana2.html

Documentation of Iggy Pop spitting on non-famous people, both recently and long ago. Choice quote (from 1974): "I don't spit at anybody I don't aim at. And the only people I spit at are people who are beng assholes."

J (Jay), Tuesday, 14 January 2003 19:03 (twenty-one years ago) link

he looks better now than he did in 1970

however if he spat at p!nk she wd whup his ass hurrah!!

mark s (mark s), Tuesday, 14 January 2003 19:09 (twenty-one years ago) link

Alex do you need to piss everyone off? Stop posting on this thread

Sad Sad Iggy Pop, Wednesday, 15 January 2003 04:17 (twenty-one years ago) link

"Alex do you need to piss everyone off? Stop posting on this thread"

Aggreed, and I'm not even a Corrs fan. You're pissing me off and I'm on Iggy's side.

Illuminate07, Wednesday, 15 January 2003 04:30 (twenty-one years ago) link

"As a lawyer...."

You're a lawyer? Great! I've got a question about entrapment you might be able to answer over on The Who's Townshend Says 'I'm Not a Pedophile' !

Before you do 'though, you do realise I'm not going to pay you anything, right?

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Wednesday, 15 January 2003 10:03 (twenty-one years ago) link

I went to an Iggy Pop concert once, and he didn't spit on anyone.

I don't think he smeared peanut butter on himself either. He just played music. He did jump into the audience and probably showed his willy to us, but nothing sticky happened.

I feel cheated.

DV (dirtyvicar), Wednesday, 15 January 2003 12:51 (twenty-one years ago) link

".... and probably showed his willy to us"

I have never seen Mr. Pop's willy myself, but from what I've heard seeing it isn't something that's likely to slip your mind - unlike, say, seeing poor little Captain Sensible's willy.

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Wednesday, 15 January 2003 13:02 (twenty-one years ago) link

.. If we're going down this road, let's get back to talking about the Corrs.

dave225 (Dave225), Wednesday, 15 January 2003 13:08 (twenty-one years ago) link

OK Dave.... has Jim got a big willy do you think?

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Wednesday, 15 January 2003 13:20 (twenty-one years ago) link

what abt caroline's willy?

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Wednesday, 15 January 2003 13:25 (twenty-one years ago) link

No clues Julio, that would spoil the surprise - but I'm really looking forward to seeing your face when you eventually find out!

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Wednesday, 15 January 2003 13:29 (twenty-one years ago) link

"Alex do you need to piss everyone off? Stop posting on this thread"

Fuck the pair of you, I was here first!

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 15 January 2003 14:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

"Alex do you need to piss everyone off? Stop posting on this thread"
-- Sad Sad Iggy Pop (no_email_address@hotmail.com)

"Aggreed, and I'm not even a Corrs fan. You're pissing me off and I'm on Iggy's side."
-- Illuminate07 (keepitdown@hotmail.com)

Look, kids....for a start, this board represents a *DEBATE* (see the "vs" in the title?), i.e. I'm simply presenting one side of the argument. That you're failing to represent the other side of the argument adequately is your own fault. Moreover, you accuse me of "pissing people off," yet assume the name "Sad Sad Iggy Pop," a provocative a name as any comment I could come up with. Come up with a better retort than "stop posting on this thread" and maybe some progress will be made. (That the debate itself is a herculean example of pointlessness is another matter). Maybe check out some of the other non-Iggy/Corrs threads. This isn't simply a hallelujah chorus for any one single artist.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 15 January 2003 14:23 (twenty-one years ago) link

however if he spat at p!nk she wd whup his ass hurrah!!

Are you callling Pink an asshole?

J (Jay), Wednesday, 15 January 2003 14:32 (twenty-one years ago) link

That the debate itself is a herculean example...
I'd call it Sisyphean...

Hercules -vs- Sisyphus = Iggy -vs- The Corrs

So how much longer are we going to roll this particular boulder?

dave225 (Dave225), Wednesday, 15 January 2003 14:36 (twenty-one years ago) link


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