the pure essence of an album

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this game is great... (i even check it from home...).
the results are surprising.
i think we should make a "ILM essence" compilation of all the essential tracks voted at some point... and make a thread about it (of course, all the people who haven't participate would disagree, there would be names, there would be violence, people would call other people rockist, racist, homophobe, nazis... wouldn't it be nice ?)

AleXTC (AleXTC), Monday, 26 September 2005 21:39 (eighteen years ago) link

Eclipse is totally the most disposable track

1. Who's That Girl
2. Handle Me
3.
4. Be Mine!
5. Crash And Burn Girl
6. Konichiwa Bitches
7. Bum Like You
8.
9. Should Have Known
10. Anytime You Like

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 26 September 2005 21:43 (eighteen years ago) link

Fuck. Only one I know on this is Konichiwa Bitches. Which may be the essense, though I don't know... (And I'm still smarting that 11:59 lost out...)

js (honestengine), Monday, 26 September 2005 21:53 (eighteen years ago) link

this game is great...

until it's an album you've never heard of...

jed_ (jed), Monday, 26 September 2005 22:24 (eighteen years ago) link

...or an album you don't give a sh*t about (there have been a couple. I have sat those rounds out.)

Declan Zimmerman (Declan Zimmerman), Monday, 26 September 2005 22:32 (eighteen years ago) link

Maybe there could be two albums on the go at once.

(I mean, actually, there are! Nobody ever decided the last two on the Police one, and also everybody agreed to ignore David Sylvian - so there may even be three!)

I think finding the essence of Robyn is a noble and worthwhile cause but frankly it's going to take a while especially as most of the people who like her are sleeping in Europe right now.

Tom (Groke), Monday, 26 September 2005 22:40 (eighteen years ago) link

"the pure essence of an album"

T.S. Eliot, Allen Tate, Yvor Winters, and M.H. Abrams to thread.

Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Monday, 26 September 2005 22:41 (eighteen years ago) link

"Should Have Known" is also on Robyn's 2002 album so it IS NOT ESSENCE AND SUCH GOES, even if it's not the same recording. (I have come to appreciate "Konichiwa Bitches" now as a kind of insane halfway point between Moloko's "Fun For Me" and Missy Elliott's "Work It" but "Crash And Burn Girl" is still the buried gem on this "record").

1. Who's That Girl
2. Handle Me
3.
4. Be Mine!
5. Crash And Burn Girl
6. Konichiwa Bitches
7. Bum Like You
8.
9.
10. Anytime You Like

edward o (edwardo), Monday, 26 September 2005 22:44 (eighteen years ago) link

the others are a lot better

1.
2. Handle Me
3.
4. Be Mine!
5. Crash And Burn Girl
6. Konichiwa Bitches
7. Bum Like You
8.
9.
10. Anytime You Like

RJG (RJG), Monday, 26 September 2005 22:52 (eighteen years ago) link

T.S. Eliot, Allen Tate, Yvor Winters, and M.H. Abrams to thread.

"...while the vinyl is spread out against the sky like a patient etherized upon a table."

Tom, I agree Robyn is a worthy cause, and when those people wake up I'll return to find we're on something entirely different. That's the beauty of it too.

Declan Zimmerman (Declan Zimmerman), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 00:21 (eighteen years ago) link

Can we do a Puressence album next?

edward o (edwardo), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 04:27 (eighteen years ago) link

Konichiwa bitches is fun, but this is really NOT the essence of this album...

1.
2. Handle Me
3.
4. Be Mine!
5. Crash And Burn Girl
6.
7. Bum Like You
8.
9.
10. Anytime You Like

Arnault (arc73hk), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 06:53 (eighteen years ago) link

"Think About You" totally is one of my favourite tracks from Appetite! As if "It's So Easy" came out as the winner!

Sundar (sundar), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 07:14 (eighteen years ago) link

At the end of the album I always wish it was the beginning again.

(OMG, these remaining songs are all so good; christ this is a great record.)

1.
2. Handle Me
3.
4. Be Mine!
5. Crash And Burn Girl
6.
7. Bum Like You
8.
9.
10.

sean gramophone (Sean M), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 07:57 (eighteen years ago) link

1.
2. Handle Me
3.
4.
5. Crash And Burn Girl
6.
7. Bum Like You
8.
9.
10.

One of those records where the big single doesn't capture the odd essence - and besides, "Be Mine!" doesn't do it for me like it seems to for some of you.

Tom (Groke), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 08:19 (eighteen years ago) link

hum... it's not moved a lot since i went to sleep...
can't help on this one.

AleXTC (AleXTC), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 09:00 (eighteen years ago) link

I don't believe that she's as accepting as she makes herself out to be in "Bum Like You" - it's out.

1.
2. Handle Me
3.
4.
5. Crash And Burn Girl
6.
7.
8.
9.
10.

Gregory T (tubesocks), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 11:37 (eighteen years ago) link

I like "Crash And Burn Girl" better, but it's just not the essence. Let's go with Handle Me.

1.
2. Handle Me
3.
4.
5.
6.
7.
8.
9.
10.

Since I swiped mindinrewind's new album privlidges previously, someone else can take a shot.

EppyIsNoLongerWaitingForGas, Tuesday, 27 September 2005 12:34 (eighteen years ago) link

OK, how about Low - what single track could be the essence of an album with two completely different sides?

1. Speed Of Life (2:45)
2. Breaking Glass (1:42)
3. What In The World (2:20)
4. Sound and Vision (3:00)
5. Always Crashing In The Same Car (3:26)
6. Be My Wife (2:55)
7. A New Career In A New Town (2:50)
8. Warszawa (6:17)
9. Art Decade (3:43)
10. Weeping Wall (3:25)
11. Subterraneans (5:37)

jz, Tuesday, 27 September 2005 12:40 (eighteen years ago) link

Kinda left-field but worth doing I think: Scarface's The Fix

1. The Fix
2. Safe
3. In Cold Blood
4. Guess Who's Back
5. On My Block
6. Keep Me Down.
7. What Can I Do?
8. In Between Us
9. Someday
10. Sellout
11. Heaven
12. I Ain't the One
13. Fixed

ahh xpost!

Banana Nutrament (ghostface), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 12:41 (eighteen years ago) link

We can keep both going.

jz, Tuesday, 27 September 2005 12:42 (eighteen years ago) link

1. Speed Of Life (2:45)
2. Breaking Glass (1:42)
3. What In The World (2:20)
4. Sound and Vision (3:00)
5. Always Crashing In The Same Car (3:26)
6. Be My Wife (2:55)
7. A New Career In A New Town (2:50)
8. Warszawa (6:17)
9. Art Decade (3:43)
10.
11. Subterraneans (5:37)

I adore all the pop side and wouldn't lose any of it, whereas elements of the second side (which I also love) feel more or less interchangeable, so I picked "Weeping Wall" almost at random.

It's an interesting pick this because the two side 1 instrumentals might be considered both disposable and also the gap-bridgers, hence essential. If I had to pick an 'essence' "New Career" might be it.

Tom (Groke), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 12:45 (eighteen years ago) link

Actually I do think Weeping Wall is the weakest track on the album, it's a little too derivative of Steve Reich et al. (I still like it though.)

jz, Tuesday, 27 September 2005 12:49 (eighteen years ago) link

Be My Wife goes - *slightly* 'old Bowie' in the context of this album

1. Speed Of Life (2:45)
2. Breaking Glass (1:42)
3. What In The World (2:20)
4. Sound and Vision (3:00)
5. Always Crashing In The Same Car (3:26)
6.
7. A New Career In A New Town (2:50)
8. Warszawa (6:17)
9. Art Decade (3:43)
10.
11. Subterraneans (5:37)

Dr. C (Dr. C), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 12:49 (eighteen years ago) link

1. Speed Of Life (2:45)
2.
3. What In The World (2:20)
4. Sound and Vision (3:00)
5. Always Crashing In The Same Car (3:26)
6. Be My Wife (2:55)
7. A New Career In A New Town (2:50)
8. Warszawa (6:17)
9. Art Decade (3:43)
10.
11. Subterraneans (5:37)

I am gonna refrain from being a big meany: I've always disliked side 2 of Low and think it's a huge disappointment; I don't think the two sides belong together at all. So, I am abstaining from side 2. Side 1, on the other hand, is a masterpiece, and considerably more sentimental than a still-coked-up-near-sunrise collection oughta be. Except "Breaking Glass," which is cute but gimmicky, and while the album is largely about various moods in contrast, this one's not the center. Peace out, "Breaking Glass."

Banana Nutrament (ghostface), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 12:49 (eighteen years ago) link

x-post, "Be My Wife" now gone so we got:

1. Speed Of Life (2:45)

3. What In The World (2:20)
4. Sound and Vision (3:00)
5. Always Crashing In The Same Car (3:26)
6.
7. A New Career In A New Town (2:50)
8. Warszawa (6:17)
9. Art Decade (3:43)
10.
11. Subterraneans (5:37)

Banana Nutrament (ghostface), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 12:50 (eighteen years ago) link

I like this thread so much I have used my mod powers for good and summarised the results in the title post.

Tom (Groke), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 12:55 (eighteen years ago) link

I'll take out Art Decade. Gorgeous track, but rather stately and not weirdly skewed enough to be the essence.

1. Speed Of Life (2:45)

3. What In The World (2:20)
4. Sound and Vision (3:00)
5. Always Crashing In The Same Car (3:26)
6.
7. A New Career In A New Town (2:50)
8. Warszawa (6:17)
9.
10.
11. Subterraneans (5:37)

jz, Tuesday, 27 September 2005 12:56 (eighteen years ago) link

I was gonna lose "Art Decade" cos I'm a side 1 kinda guy too, so I guess it'll have to be:

1. Speed Of Life (2:45)

3. What In The World (2:20)
4. Sound and Vision (3:00)
5. Always Crashing In The Same Car (3:26)
6.
7. A New Career In A New Town (2:50)
8.
9.
10.
11. Subterraneans (5:37)

Don King of the Mountain (noodle vague), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 12:58 (eighteen years ago) link

That takes care of Side 2.

1. Speed Of Life (2:45)

3. What In The World (2:20)
4. Sound and Vision (3:00)
5. Always Crashing In The Same Car (3:26)
6.
7. A New Career In A New Town (2:50)
8.
9.
10.
11.

kornrulez6969 (TCBeing), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 13:01 (eighteen years ago) link

Dammit, I was going to exclude "Weeping Wall" as well. ("Breaking Glass", on the other hand, is as Essence as it gets for me. In fact, it's so short that it's practically pure distilled Essence.)

Then I was going to exclude "Be My Wife", but got beaten to it again. DAMN!

Then it was going to be "Subterraneans", but I could't demolish Side 2.

So now it's going to be "Sound And Vision", because it's the one tgrack which has an independent life above and beyond Low. ie. when I hear it, I don't think Low.

1. Speed Of Life (2:45)
2.
3. What In The World (2:20)
4.
5. Always Crashing In The Same Car (3:26)
6.
7. A New Career In A New Town (2:50)
8.
9.
10.
11.

mike t-diva (mike t-diva), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 13:02 (eighteen years ago) link

Poor old side 2 :(

Tom (Groke), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 13:03 (eighteen years ago) link

ppl show love to Scarface too!!

xpost my animus toward side 2 is decades old, this is like a great unburdening for me to see it go down in flames!

Banana Nutrament (ghostface), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 13:05 (eighteen years ago) link

"Sound and Vision" actually woulda had my vote for purest essence of the album BUT my second pick would have been one of the remaining BUT I ain't sayin' which one!

Banana Nutrament (ghostface), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 13:06 (eighteen years ago) link

I don't know Scarface I'm afraid...

"Heroes" would probably be an interesting choice for this thread, too. Once you killed the title track anyway, which is clearly NOT the essence of that album.

jz, Tuesday, 27 September 2005 13:08 (eighteen years ago) link

good, my fav is still here... so i'm gonna have to shoot the one i love the least of those remaining : go get a goddam new career !

1. Speed Of Life (2:45)
2.
3. What In The World (2:20)
4.
5. Always Crashing In The Same Car (3:26)
6.
7.
8.
9.
10.
11.

AleXTC (AleXTC), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 13:09 (eighteen years ago) link

:( I was listening to "A New Career..." this morning, it's so beautiful.

Tom (Groke), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 13:11 (eighteen years ago) link

i cant believe "s&v" and "warszawa" got axed.

1. Speed Of Life (2:45)
2.
3.
4.
5. Always Crashing In The Same Car (3:26)
6.
7.
8.
9.
10.
11.

petesmith (plsmith), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 13:11 (eighteen years ago) link

ok, someone please make crashing the essence of this one ! (that said, having an instrumental BUT from the side 1 ti be the essence of this one would be nice...).

AleXTC (AleXTC), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 13:13 (eighteen years ago) link

"New Career" is really the essence, it's got so many aspects of the album rolled into three minutes. The knees-up piano of 'Be My Wife', those Kraftwerk-style interludes, the musical Burroughsian cut-up nature of it, the wordlessness...

jz, Tuesday, 27 September 2005 13:13 (eighteen years ago) link

I don't know Scarface I'm afraid...

You are missing out!

"Heroes" would probably be an interesting choice for this thread, too. Once you killed the title track anyway, which is clearly NOT the essence of that album.

I'd hope that "Heroes" would make it 'til very near the end of the thread in a hypothetical "Heroes" reduction, though. Prior to its broader uses, it occupied a pretty special place in the Bowie canon: such an obvious masterpiece, such a gorgeous lyric, such an incredible synthline. Though I think the album's essence is "Blackout."

Banana Nutrament (ghostface), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 13:14 (eighteen years ago) link

(I know, sorry guys...like it too...but the heart spoke !)

AleXTC (AleXTC), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 13:15 (eighteen years ago) link

http://images.google.co.uk/images?q=tbn:q48c_xWZu6EJ:www.amadirectlink.com/news/2005/images/Speed.jpg vs ittp://images.google.co.uk/images?q=tbn:480yNHbrk78J:people.freenet.de/f1network/picture11.jpg

mike t-diva (mike t-diva), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 13:15 (eighteen years ago) link

how bout forever changes?

1. Alone Again Or
2. House Is Not A Motel, A
3. Andmoreagain
4. Daily Planet, The
5. Old Man
6. Red Telephone, The
7. Maybe The People Would Be The Times Or Between Clark And Hilldale
8. Live And Let Live
9. Good Humor Man He Sees Everything Like This, The
10. Bummer In The Summer
11. You Set The Scene

AaronK (AaronK), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 13:16 (eighteen years ago) link

This tension is killing me...

Don King of the Mountain (noodle vague), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 13:17 (eighteen years ago) link

Though I think the album's essence is "Blackout."

Yeah, that or 'Joe The Lion'.

jz, Tuesday, 27 September 2005 13:17 (eighteen years ago) link

Can we stop this annoying habit of getting to the final two and then jumping the gun to a new album??

Tom (Groke), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 13:17 (eighteen years ago) link

sorry, thought it was done! i guess someone needs to post the final tracklist of 1 though... apologies.

AaronK (AaronK), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 13:18 (eighteen years ago) link

Well, someone needs to pick a winner, the tracklist isn't so crucial :)

Tom (Groke), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 13:19 (eighteen years ago) link


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