― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 14:14 (nineteen years ago) link
but that Duane Allman Anthology blew our stoned teenage minds with his session work on Aretha's "The Weight" and believe it or not the epic Boz Scaggs cut "Loan Me A Dime" (sic). gonna pull it out now.
feeling nostalgic I gave a good review to a latter-day Allmans album around 1990 or so, I'd probably be embarrassed to hear it now.
― password reset limbo, Tuesday, 9 August 2005 14:30 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Tuesday, 9 August 2005 17:09 (nineteen years ago) link
also, folks shouldn't forget about this nice little thing. Listening now, it's pretty good, though pretty short. That might be a good thing for people who don't like them to jam for too long! I tried to find the link to it on the Dead's site (they put it out), but I can't find it anywhere on there. possibly OOP?
― Stormy Davis (diamond), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 04:31 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Wednesday, 10 August 2005 05:08 (nineteen years ago) link
RE: newer Allmans -- I wrote over on that "Whipping Post" thread about how I was going through a big Allman's phase, and so I plunked down the 3 bucks for a used CD copy of Seven Turns, the 1990 comeback album. I thought it sounded great! And mainly for Betts's contributions. Sure, he wasn't half the soloist Duane was, but man could he write a tune. Or more like, man could he write a theme. His instrumentals are always so so great. And there is a good one on that Seven Turns disc; in fact, it could slot right in with classic Allmans, it was that good, had "that" sound...
― Stormy Davis (diamond), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 05:22 (nineteen years ago) link
http://www.hittinthenote.com/cart/pc-440-50-allman-brothers-bandbrnassau-coliseumbruniondale-ny-5173br.aspx
to the want-list it goes...
― Stormy Davis (diamond), Sunday, 5 February 2006 08:25 (eighteen years ago) link
― Stormy Davis (diamond), Sunday, 5 February 2006 08:26 (eighteen years ago) link
Wow, can't believe I had never heard the Wilson Pickett - Duane Allman version of Hey Jude. Not my fave Beatles tune but this version is amazing. Classic growling baritone from Pickett sounding perfect next to some stinging lead from Duane. Very unexpected and right.
― that's not my post, Saturday, 19 January 2008 06:17 (sixteen years ago) link
"yeah, "Mountain Jam" is great when Duane is playing, and I nod out when he ain't. As far as I'm concerned, he's like about 90% of the reason to listen to the Allman Brothers; I don't get any thrill from Gregg's singing or his lame-ass organ playing, or from the rhythm section. But their first two studio albums are pretty damned good, all said and done, so I think it's a case of jam-band mentality that made them so fucking boring--"we just play, man." Too bad, too, because they could've really been something with a little more pop sense"
I'd rather hear their early sides as the Allman Joys and the Hour Glass than any actual Allman Brothers Band recordings.
― Rev. Hoodoo, Saturday, 19 January 2008 07:25 (sixteen years ago) link
I've always loved bands with two drummers
― Myonga Vön Bontee, Saturday, 19 January 2008 08:53 (sixteen years ago) link
Just got around to getting that Atlanta Pop Festival 1970 set mentioned above. First disc is good but holy crap does the second disc burn. Version of "Mountain Jam" with Johnny Winter sitting in with the Bros-awesome.
― Prince Kajuku (Bill Magill), Monday, 12 May 2014 21:57 (ten years ago) link
Atlanta Pop is a good record. I dig the story about Duane having to hitch a ride on the back of a motorcycle to get to the gig.
Since my earlier post, I have all four of the late period Allman Brothers studio albums and they are really good. In fact, I am not so sure the last one Hittin' The Note might be the best of the bunch even without Dicky Betts, there is some good material on that one that stretches out in interesting ways. They never really escaped the shadow of Duane Allman and Fillmore East, but I think the later reunion Allman Brothers held true to the legacy of the original group much better in hindsight than many of their peers.
― earlnash, Monday, 12 May 2014 23:03 (ten years ago) link
Yeah, Atlanta Pop also gives us Berry Oakley at his best. The offical ABB site has a lot of good stuff, incl the Archival series, from the early 70s; earliest is a hot '70 show in DC. Also the current line-up, in concerts 2003-2013. I still miss Allen Woody, with this band and Govt. Mule (and his Blue Floyd side trip, for that matter): he did some stuff I've never heard any other bass player do, incl. Oakley. And I miss Betts, but Haynes-Trucks-Burbridge are great; it's just too bad Gregg or whomever didn't 'llow for more varied set lists, in terms of songs and stylistic evolution. Oh well, there's still Govt. Mule, and, uh, Tedeschi-Trucks Band, though they're more uneven. Haynes and Trucks have given notice...Anyway, speaking of the website, here's the reissues of the Skydog box; good price for seven discs, but short of that, you can't go wrong with Vol I and II of the original Duane Anthologies:http://www.hittinthenote.com/cart/p-1593-skydog-duane-allmanbrretrospective-encore-edition.aspx visit the Southern Rock thread too; thanks.
― dow, Tuesday, 13 May 2014 01:40 (ten years ago) link
Given notice to Gregg, that is.
― dow, Tuesday, 13 May 2014 01:42 (ten years ago) link
Holy crap, Spotify's got a ton of their stuff, incl. that Archival series (scroll way down for the first one, at American University in 1970).
― dow, Tuesday, 13 May 2014 01:57 (ten years ago) link
yeah, "Mountain Jam" is great when Duane is playing, and I nod out when he ain't. As far as I'm concerned, he's like about 90% of the reason to listen to the Allman Brothers; I don't get any thrill from Gregg's singing or his lame-ass organ playing, or from the rhythm section.
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Tuesday, August 9, 2005 10:14 AM (eleven years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Well, uh, there's this guy called Dicky Betts...
― Wimmels, Saturday, 27 August 2016 23:15 (eight years ago) link
Oops I mean Dickey. But yeah. Him.
yeah I'm a total allmans noob but I really love dicky betts' playing. Kinda like how Gary Duncan doesn't get enough love because cipollina
― brimstead, Saturday, 27 August 2016 23:18 (eight years ago) link
It could just be Elvin Bishop Syndrome. By which I mean in any other band, Dickey, Elvin Bishop, Richard Lloyd, and (my personal crusade) Bob Weir would absolutely be the 'guitar hero' of the band, the star of the show. These guys just had the bad luck to be paired up with stone cold geniuses.
Underrated Allman bro imo: Chuck Leavall! No one ever talks about him but this show--
www.discogs.com/The-Allman-Brothers-Band-Nassau-Coliseum-Uniondale-NY-5173/release/4564808
is pretty terrific
― Wimmels, Saturday, 27 August 2016 23:22 (eight years ago) link
I'd actually love to hear what others think about any of the discs in this series, actually, because the one I linked to above is the only one I have:
www.discogs.com/label/464870-The-Allman-Brothers-Band-Recording-Company
― Wimmels, Saturday, 27 August 2016 23:24 (eight years ago) link
Local 2nd hand and remainder book shop has had copies in of an Oral history of the band that claims to be the first history of the band which i thought was actually a straight narrative I read about 20 years ago. MIght pick up a copy at some point.
Also wanted to grab that Live from A&R studios set that came out earlier this year and not done so so far
― Stevolende, Saturday, 27 August 2016 23:37 (eight years ago) link
Is there a thread on great dual/lead/twin guitar bands?
― Master of Treacle, Sunday, 28 August 2016 03:32 (eight years ago) link
RIP Gregg
Allmann Brothers and solo material 1969-1974 has held up very well
― Brad C., Saturday, 27 May 2017 21:01 (seven years ago) link
^^Yup. Listening to Idlewild South rn.
― to fly across the city and find Aerosmith's car (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 27 May 2017 21:39 (seven years ago) link
RIP. Always liked his voice and Hammond b-3. Whipping post came up on a playlist the other day. Still sounds strong.
Gregg and Cher has to be one of the weirder celeb marriages tho.
― that's not my post, Saturday, 27 May 2017 23:34 (seven years ago) link
They were great.
― kornrulez6969, Sunday, 28 May 2017 03:12 (seven years ago) link
listening to Eat A Peach right now, RIP
― HONOR THE FYRE (sleeve), Sunday, 28 May 2017 03:13 (seven years ago) link
Looks like The Daily Beast has re-upped their republishing of Grover Lewis' notorious Allmans tour report, originally published in Rolling Stone (apparently against the author's wishes) alongside Duane's obituary in '71.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/03/15/stacks-hitting-the-note-with-the-allman-brothers-band
― to fly across the city and find Aerosmith's car (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 28 May 2017 20:01 (seven years ago) link
Best story right here
http://buffalonews.com/2017/06/04/dream-sequence-gregg-allman-cher-lighted-canisius-high/
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 5 June 2017 16:26 (seven years ago) link
Awesome
― Wet Pelican would provide the soundtrack (Myonga Vön Bontee), Monday, 5 June 2017 20:30 (seven years ago) link
I've got a bit of a commute these days and have had a few drives to the early Allman Brothers records. I had a weird thought thinking that Duane Allman was all of 24 years old when he passed on. It's kind of odd to think those tunes on those two studio albums, At Fillmore East and the left over tracks on Eat a Peach have nearly lived on the radio twice as long as his actual life.
I got thinking about Butch Trucks and Gregg Allman recently passing on and the fact that this group went on in various versions for decades but the music that is known was those slight two studio albums and that live record cut in like Aug. 69 to Oct. 71. It was such a small sliver of time and they were so young when those recordings were made. Time is a funny thing.
― earlnash, Friday, 29 September 2017 04:06 (six years ago) link
Brothers and Sisters was very well received, still sounds fresh; several others were uneven but worth checking out 'til they got rejuvenated by bringing in Warren Haynes and Allen Woody, then with the return of Haynes with the permanent residence of Derek Trucks, plus Oteil Burbridge and Marc Quinones; I know people who went to see them at the Beacon every time, Their label a bunch of hot live sets, incl. from the Duane and Berry era. Also don't miss the Epic/Legacy set from 1970 Atlanta Pop: Berry at his best, for one thing.
― dow, Friday, 29 September 2017 04:49 (six years ago) link
from what i've heard of Enlightened Rogues, it's not bad. my recollection of their two 'Evening with the Allman Brothers' CDs was that they were really good.
― nomar, Friday, 29 September 2017 05:03 (six years ago) link
Pandora just threw the "Whipping Post" at me from this: https://owsleystanleyfoundation.org/product/allman-brothers-band-fillmore-east-february-1970-cd/
Which just came out? Seems it should have been more newsworthy.
― Ubering With The King (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 18 September 2018 04:22 (six years ago) link
Apparently fixing to come out. The CD & Vinyl offer highlights, and a download of all the tapes will also be available.
These Sonic Journals comprise the complete source material for the compilation Allman Brothers Band, Fillmore East February 1970, which included performances from February 11, 13, & 14, 1970. These recordings were not previously released in their entirety because they contain significant flaws, primarily due to reel changes in the middle of songs. It was Bear’s wish that they be released in whole because they are sonically pure and include important, previously unreleased material of the band with Duane in his prime, and so with the blessing of the Allman Brothers Band, they are available here for the first time. On each night, you can find something special and rare — even if only in a fragment or a solo. Highlights include the three earliest known live versions of Elizabeth Reed.
― Ubering With The King (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 18 September 2018 04:27 (six years ago) link
Elizabeth Reed is such a beautiful and clever piece of music
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Monday, 24 June 2019 16:12 (five years ago) link
Take it down a notch brohttps://open.spotify.com/track/7DYCoG5ouDFG7lfHbyC4Nw
― calstars, Wednesday, 26 June 2019 01:49 (five years ago) link
https://open.spotify.com/track/2PDEmZJfAgBKh293Jo2ASUJfk South rulez
― calstars, Sunday, 29 March 2020 01:35 (four years ago) link
Listening to One Way Out: Live at the Beacon. I find it very cute that they have a picture of Katz's Deli on the tray card even though it's in the LES, quite a ways from the Beacon on the UWS. (I wonder if they ate there a lot?)
Christgau isn't wrong, this is a mightily impressive set that performance-wise is arguably better than the legendary Fillmore recordings. It's mainly the same material, but the band is better overall while Haynes and Trucks brings more of a balance too - Duane really towered over the others as a soloist. I didn't have much interest in the band after Brothers & Sisters, but if like me you really loved their first four albums and are still a little curious about what came later, I highly recommend checking this out.
― birdistheword, Tuesday, 26 July 2022 03:50 (two years ago) link
I shouldn't say the "same" material actually - a lot of overlap, but they also do 18 numbers (the original Fillmore double LP and the Fillmore sides on Eat a Peach in total only covered 10) and a few of the Duane-era songs found here aren't on those earlier records too.
― birdistheword, Tuesday, 26 July 2022 04:04 (two years ago) link
Continue to listen through various Allman Brothers archive releases.
Fillmore West 71 is good to excellent sound quality wise. ‘Elizabeth Reed’ on the first night is pretty wicked. Third night is probably the best show.
Fox Box from 2004 was an anniversary run of shows in Atlanta that is all worth hearing. Only ‘Dreams’ being the only tune played each night featuring a different soloist each night, including guest Jack Pearson. One reason to check these gigs out is the Brothers break out some killer covers including ‘I Walk on Guilded Splinters’ and ‘Franklin’s Tower’ with Oteil singing lead.
― The Artist formerly known as Earlnash, Saturday, 16 March 2024 14:32 (six months ago) link
I need to check out that Fox Box, I've never heard that one.
Speaking of Oteil, I just listened to One Way Out, the last "new" live release they put out from a show in 2003. Heavy on Hittin' the Note material, but I dug it a lot more than I expected - Oteil is prominent in the mix and sounds great.
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 18 March 2024 16:42 (six months ago) link
Dickey Betts has passed
https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/dickey-betts-allman-brothers-band-dead-727523/
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 18 April 2024 16:01 (five months ago) link
one of the best to ever do it
― the defenestration of prog (voodoo chili), Thursday, 18 April 2024 16:13 (five months ago) link
Just saw this. Always a bit of an arm's-length interest, but I do love "Jessica," which Betts wrote (also "Little Martha," but that's Duane--I think Betts played on it, though).
― clemenza, Thursday, 18 April 2024 16:50 (five months ago) link
mystical, magical, soaring… his playing really took me higher. RIP, will burn one to brothers and sisters tonight #youtubecomments
― brimstead, Thursday, 18 April 2024 17:01 (five months ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hd66VD1zm9M
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 18 April 2024 17:05 (five months ago) link
elizabeth reed, absolutely one of my favorite songs ever
― the defenestration of prog (voodoo chili), Thursday, 18 April 2024 17:51 (five months ago) link
awww man, RIP Dickey
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 18 April 2024 18:01 (five months ago) link
I was so bent on not typing "Sweet" I left out "Melissa" as well.
― The Zing from Another URL (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 2 September 2024 13:29 (three weeks ago) link
He needed the bread to pay for a plane ticket to LA!
― The Zing from Another URL (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 2 September 2024 13:31 (three weeks ago) link
It happens
― calstars, Monday, 2 September 2024 16:37 (three weeks ago) link
the gypsy flies from coast to coast
― Lavator Shemmelpennick, Monday, 2 September 2024 17:03 (three weeks ago) link
No one knows the coke dealer’s name
― calstars, Monday, 2 September 2024 18:34 (three weeks ago) link
― The Zing from Another URL (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 2 September 2024 18:38 (three weeks ago) link
― The Zing from Another URL (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 2 September 2024 18:39 (three weeks ago) link
Betts solo debut, Highway Call(1974) is his most ABBesque, in terms of lyricism x drive, esp. w Vassar Clements (slide x bow, yow)http://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nTh3BAxIGfNoBo4er4-mppj5UJ3kJx4bk
― dow, Monday, 2 September 2024 19:55 (three weeks ago) link
What! Need to hear
― calstars, Monday, 2 September 2024 21:20 (three weeks ago) link
Yeah great description
― The Zing from Another URL (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 2 September 2024 21:42 (three weeks ago) link
First track totally sounds like “Ramblin’ Man,” which I mean in the best possible way
― The Zing from Another URL (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 2 September 2024 21:48 (three weeks ago) link
This is good, thanks!
― The Zing from Another URL (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 2 September 2024 21:55 (three weeks ago) link
Spirit, you are resurrected a settled woman
― calstars, Monday, 2 September 2024 21:58 (three weeks ago) link
Ha, yeah, this is like, at the Dead's studio peak, we also got Bob Weir's Ace. A stash of dandy little tunes, and road trip w "Hand Picked."Wiki reminds me:
All tracks composed by Dickey Betts, except "Kissimmee Kid" by Vassar Clements.
― dow, Monday, 2 September 2024 22:28 (three weeks ago) link
Wasn’t Vassar also playing with Garcia around this time?
― calstars, Monday, 2 September 2024 22:49 (three weeks ago) link
Imagining a hot Betts / Garcia duel, that would be the shit
― calstars, Monday, 2 September 2024 22:50 (three weeks ago) link
Welp since you mentioned it, here's what I found so far, mostly Dead w Allmans at Watkins Glen (also incl. Duane w Dead in 1970http://music.youtube.com/search?q=Grateful+Dead+Dickey+Betts)
Most specifically, here's a Watkins Glen soundboard of GD w Merle Saunders, Betts and Trucks:https//music.youtube.com/watch?v=MDW-q6ZMTC8
― dow, Monday, 2 September 2024 23:04 (three weeks ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDW-q6ZMTC8
― dow, Monday, 2 September 2024 23:05 (three weeks ago) link
xxp Yeah, Vassar was in Old And In The Way.
― dow, Monday, 2 September 2024 23:06 (three weeks ago) link
And maybe some other Garcia bands?
‘87 “Dylan Duane and the Dead” tour
― calstars, Monday, 2 September 2024 23:34 (three weeks ago) link
“Dylan Duane Dickey and Dead”
― calstars, Monday, 2 September 2024 23:36 (three weeks ago) link
"...Featuring Gregg"
― Charlie Hair (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 2 September 2024 23:55 (three weeks ago) link
Gregg only comes out during “midnight rider.” Other songs are instrumentals
― calstars, Tuesday, 3 September 2024 00:10 (three weeks ago) link
Reminds me: that last Gregg album is really good! Actually doesn't suck, and then some.
― dow, Tuesday, 3 September 2024 01:03 (three weeks ago) link
“I’m no angle?”
― calstars, Tuesday, 3 September 2024 01:09 (three weeks ago) link
Last studio album, that is: Southern Blood. Came out in 2017, and wasn't quite finished when he died, but any tweaks are discreet. He sounds a lot better on there than 'midst all the moanin' and groanin' of Hittin' The Note.
― dow, Tuesday, 3 September 2024 01:10 (three weeks ago) link
“Come on let me show you my hypotenuse” etc
― calstars, Tuesday, 3 September 2024 01:10 (three weeks ago) link