also no idea what the shit abt wedding rings is, which is not good
― zvookster, Thursday, 27 January 2011 11:06 (thirteen years ago) link
my guess is that there was a tabloid furore around PE playing hammersmith (which is where the bit at the start of 'nation' comes from), and that PE said it was bullshit and the media lie, and that simey is saying, well yeah they do but i also witnessed some shitty behaviour [from PE fans, we are meant to infer -- potentially dodgy territory, though when i've been in that neck of the woods it's been p clear who is going to a gig and who isn't]
― read before patoing (history mayne), Thursday, 27 January 2011 11:11 (thirteen years ago) link
is it clear the type of rings ppl are stealing in the next traincar?
― zvookster, Thursday, 27 January 2011 11:14 (thirteen years ago) link
i guess some engagement/sovereign/______ rings could have got caught up too
that or simon reynolds '87 was just into lying about shit
― read before patoing (history mayne), Thursday, 27 January 2011 11:19 (thirteen years ago) link
i'm not sayin i'm just sayin [via sr]
― zvookster, Thursday, 27 January 2011 11:26 (thirteen years ago) link
First paragraph describes most hip hop shows for the past 25 years.
― I've been dancing since 9 and I'm tired and hungry (Dorianlynskey), Thursday, 27 January 2011 11:39 (thirteen years ago) link
the "performing Fear Of A Black Planet in full" tour contains at least as many Nation Of Millions songs as Black Planet songs
I take this back: counting Contract On The World Love Jam as play-on music, they did nine out of the 20 songs on Fear, and only seven off Nation Of Millions. At least the latter included Cold Lampin' WIth Flavor, since he wasn't in the country in time for the actual Nation Of Millions In Full show two years ago.
― basically just a 2/47 freak out (sic), Sunday, 30 January 2011 23:54 (thirteen years ago) link
um, that's not exactly "playing "Fear" in full is it, 9 out of 20...
― Mark G, Monday, 31 January 2011 09:56 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah, my point
at least they didn't do Meet The G That Killed Me 3 or 4 times in a row like when I actually saw them on the Tour Of A Black Planet
(they did do it though)
― basically just a 2/47 freak out (sic), Monday, 31 January 2011 10:56 (thirteen years ago) link
ick (still like that album but damn that track is a dealbreaker)
― sleeve, Monday, 31 January 2011 22:08 (thirteen years ago) link
What the fuck? Why are they even doing that song? I saw them in late 1990, and they didn't do it...but then, given the 90 minute delay after openers Sonic Youth, and the 40-minute Flav solo section in the middle (because Chuck had the flu), they didn't do much of anything.
― Son of Sisyphus of Reaganing (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 31 January 2011 22:41 (thirteen years ago) link
apparently griff is holding a roundtable discussion tonight at the bar down the block from me
― 40oz of tears (Jordan), Wednesday, 22 February 2012 20:05 (twelve years ago) link
Did you go? Was there exciting news about the Illuminati and Jewish money power?
― Suede - the fabric, not the band (DL), Wednesday, 22 February 2012 23:24 (twelve years ago) link
the new Mojo (brian jones cover) has a little oral history thing with Public Enemy, most of the interesting stuff is the very early days of the WBAU shows and the Spectrum City mobile DJ unit they were before they were a proper group...
aaanyway, not often you hear a genuinely new tidbit about a band like this, but Hank or Keith drops one in a quote in the article...in the early days, before Chuck had really evolved into the groups MC...he said that Eddie Murphy used to get onstage at their shows and do kinda jokes/rapping/MCing/etc!
CRAZY! :)
― Jandek at the Disco (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 13 August 2012 23:51 (twelve years ago) link
"Brothers Gonna Work It Out" ended up being my favorite single of theirs, kind of to my surprise because I was such a "Bring The Noise"/"Fight The Power" head
― Solange Knowles is my hero (DJP), Sunday, 6 January 2013 05:29 (eleven years ago) link
http://lens.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/04/18/public-enemys-private-photographer/
― 乒乓, Friday, 19 April 2013 13:36 (eleven years ago) link
^^ The RUN-DMC pic in that set is nuts. I'd like to hear an album from them in those clothes.
PE = classic.
― Mike Dixn, Wednesday, 17 July 2013 05:59 (eleven years ago) link
Are people buying and digesting the albums they make now? I always wonder.
― Beatrix Kiddo (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 18 July 2013 03:02 (eleven years ago) link
Fassfood is a lot of fun
― Beatrix Kiddo (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 26 November 2013 03:31 (ten years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0eOkWEAheE
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Monday, 3 March 2014 15:54 (ten years ago) link
I have never seen an authoritative account of what happened to the Bomb Squad and why they basically stopped working around '94. For such a groundbreaking production crew, this has always befuddled me.
― How dare you tarnish the reputation of Turturro's yodel (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 27 March 2014 23:42 (ten years ago) link
BOOM, BASS IN YOUR FACE:Here is that Chuck D & Hank Shocklee Interview
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Thursday, 27 March 2014 23:49 (ten years ago) link
also I think you can still find the Tape Op interview with Shocklee mentioned in there for free, all you have to do is reg for the site. It's pretty eye opening.
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Thursday, 27 March 2014 23:54 (ten years ago) link
I knew that the legalities of sampling probably had something to do with it, but I always suspected there must have been some personal stuff going on as well...? There are plenty of producers who kept working as styles shifted, just seems weird to me that they basically gave up.
― How dare you tarnish the reputation of Turturro's yodel (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 28 March 2014 17:02 (ten years ago) link
https://twitter.com/MrChuckD/status/495741143918071809/photo/1
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BuE58ZfIIAA025Q.jpg
― ⓢⓗⓘⓣ (am0n), Tuesday, 5 August 2014 14:42 (ten years ago) link
Not so corny anymore huh?
― ruffalo soldier (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 14 August 2014 03:26 (ten years ago) link
Wow, I just saw that on display at the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Monday.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 14 August 2014 17:55 (ten years ago) link
Hearing whispers of a secret (short) gig at Rough Trade East tomorrow at 6:30
― MaresNest, Sunday, 12 July 2015 22:39 (nine years ago) link
weird & cool: http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/entertainment/329701271.html
― lil urbane (Jordan), Monday, 28 September 2015 14:36 (eight years ago) link
That's insane!
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 28 September 2015 15:46 (eight years ago) link
Time for me to exit, Terminator Brex-it.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 24 June 2016 20:41 (eight years ago) link
KEXP in Seattle is playing every (discernible) recording sampled on Nation of Millions right now:
https://www.kexp.org/
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 21 June 2018 14:13 (six years ago) link
That album is at least 80% the soundtrack to Wattstax don't @ me
― Stanley Therapy (stevie), Thursday, 21 June 2018 14:45 (six years ago) link
rebel without @ pause
― The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 21 June 2018 15:10 (six years ago) link
death row, what @ brother know
― Stanley Therapy (stevie), Thursday, 21 June 2018 15:37 (six years ago) link
I watched this BBC documentary yesterday : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMCvWeWnsJwIt's pretty cool and reminded me how much I loved that band when I was a teenager (the release of "Fear Of A Black Planet" remains one of the great musical moments in my life !).I had never thought about the fact that they never went the "bitches, Hos, bling" route and watching Griff talking about their project, it appears obvious.Also the Griff/Flav relationship was pretty wild and you wonder how they managed to make it work for such a long time...
― AlXTC from Paris, Monday, 19 November 2018 09:36 (five years ago) link
Is there a good book about them ?
I’ve read two books and neither came close to the Wax Poetics cover story (#17, 2006) on the Bomb Squad
― Bing The Mighty Seat (sic), Monday, 19 November 2018 09:41 (five years ago) link
Thanks, I will check it out !
― AlXTC from Paris, Monday, 19 November 2018 09:52 (five years ago) link
The Whiney book about Nation is good.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 19 November 2018 15:19 (five years ago) link
Yeah, I have just ordered it !
― AlXTC from Paris, Monday, 19 November 2018 15:23 (five years ago) link
"Fear of a Black Planet" still rules - relistening right now. I'm not gonna pretend it fully sustains for its hour-plus, but tracks 1-5 remain one of the most thrillingly paced/sequenced runs on any record, and track for track it keeps up the pace at least through the title track.
― thewufs, Friday, 31 May 2019 01:14 (five years ago) link
Talk to me about the future of Public Enemyhttps://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/public-enemy-flavor-flav-bernie-sanders-960272/
― Alba, Monday, 2 March 2020 03:03 (four years ago) link
I'm kind of bummed about this. Like of course Flavor Flav has some weird ass political views that don't line up with the rest of the group. You have to let him be who he is.
― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Monday, 2 March 2020 05:57 (four years ago) link
future of Public Enemy Radio got a
― Fantastic. Great move. Well done (sic), Monday, 2 March 2020 06:36 (four years ago) link
He's left/been fired/not bothered to turn up before, he'll be back
― Pinche Cumbion Bien Loco (stevie), Monday, 2 March 2020 10:47 (four years ago) link
"Like of course Flavor Flav has some weird ass political views that don't line up with the rest of the group."
Chuck D's remarks suggest this doesn't have anything to do with Flavor Flav's political zeal, but rather lack thereof.
― Melomane, Monday, 2 March 2020 17:14 (four years ago) link
I suppose after all this time and his many antics, they're pretty used to handle him...He'll be back after the elections !
― AlXTC from Paris, Monday, 2 March 2020 17:26 (four years ago) link
Also that Flav’s substance abuse has once again made him a difficult employee.
― Fantastic. Great move. Well done (sic), Monday, 2 March 2020 17:28 (four years ago) link
xpost
― Fantastic. Great move. Well done (sic), Monday, 2 March 2020 17:29 (four years ago) link