new animal collective

I fucking loved the shopping trolley! It is the only thing I'm holding on to as proof of their enduring greatness right now! That and when they did loch raven when I saw them. Cool

red herring:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_herring

I do not like very much from SJ but I love Person Pitch. I'll definitely give the new EP a listen.

what are you guys talking about? Strawberry Jam was GREAT!

i liked SJ fine, but i really hope they go more "#1" and "Derek" and that MAD MAD "Leaf House" remix they've been playing lately and less "Reverend Green"

yes, that. the less Avey Tare yelping the better.

btw I also dug their recent Portland show a lot, although I got totally confused about the lineup.

i think the new ep only sounds like feels in that three of the songs are long, slow and somewhat formless seeming, like some of the songs on feels. but all of their albums, except for strawberry jam, have at least one song like that.

the first song kinda sounds like avey's sister song to derek.
and cobwebs reminds me more of meet the light child off danse manatee than anything off feels.

http://www.dominorecordco.us/resources/images/aniive/aniive_rel_16.jpg

animal collective need to rethink their design approaches. That thing is disgusting, and not in a good way.

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B00006JLX4.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

http://www.visi.com/fall/discog/pics/heh%20plus%20big.jpg

reminds me of
http://www.discogs.com/image/R-150-431647-1133682336.jpeg

hex enduction hour has a cool cover! Letraset™

I actually really like that Animal Collective EP cover. The grass and trees remind me of playing SimCity for some reason.

I nearly broke up in public when Prospect Feels came up on my shuffle yesterday.

I'm hoping their new album is like the encore of the show I saw them play in Berlin in October, which was like the second half of "Derek" crossed with Primal Scream's "Higher Than The Sun".

But I love Strawberry Jam so I'd be happy with a continuation of that.

is this a joke?

http://dustedmagazine.com/reviews/4276

if not, that might just be the worse review in the history of reviews

to come off like that, and use "genuinely" twice in one sentence . . . it's gotta be deliberately bad, right?

This sounds like these two guys that always hang out in the lounge area of my dorm talking about how revolutionary indie rock is and using terms they just learned that day in class.

Judging from that guy's other reviews, it looks it's his regular review style. Personally, I can barely read more than one paragraph of that 2nd year spring essay shit without getting bored silly. Congrats to anyone who have a crap about what he was saying more than 100 words into the piece.

Agreed. After just a couple sentences, I don't even know what he's talking about.

In a Hegelian mood, we can see this spirit carry over into Animal Collective’s music (for more on Olmstead, see Anne Spirn’s wonderful essay “Constructing Nature: The Legacy of Frederick Law Olmsted”), and for using that economic privilege to merely colonize rather than to critically reflect and create positively.

Dusted has run lots of terrible writing before, but that is quite possibly the single worst review I've ever read anywhere. It made me want to tear my skin off and I only made it halfway through. On the other hand, it made me really glad that I'm not in college anymore, so I guess that's something.

lol @ "In a Hegelian mood"

Get to work, Photoshoppers

best thing about that review: the streaming mp3 at the top.

Not that I like the song. I don't. In fact, for whatever reason I find the last few Animal Collective releases -Strawberry Jam, Water Curses, the pop songs on Feels - increasingly annoying, while I still enjoy the hell out of Sung Tongs and the more ambient material on their other albums.

But it is handy to have a simple button at the top of a review that lets you quickly form your own opinion on a new release, rather than trying to unravel some BS review that's bringing Chomsky into it for no discernible reason.

oh man i just read that and my face has fallen off

this guy clearly doesn't want me to listen to AC ever again

lol @ "In a Hegelian mood"

i keep hearing this to the tune of "in a sentimental mood"

The only diff between me and this reviewer is that I don't have the intellect for post-modern theory/critique, BUT I REALIZE IT.

it's a wasted intellect.

...or better drugs and reading list. Olmsted designed my private school, too.

there isn't a single mention of what the music sounds like. maybe he wrote it for class and it's doing double duty? except the typos ("In a number of way, I see. . .") and the lack of self-awareness about his own writing ("Although Kandia Crazy Horse’s prose is a bit purple") probably wouldn't help his grade

post minstrel syndrome

so much wrong. also confused as to how anyone could think Animal Collective is "pushing pop" into "non-repetitive area" - they're shit is totally repetitive!

It is unmitigated, irrelevant bollocks, isn't it? There are many you could label a more coherent, focussed attack along those lines at (yeah, Banhart, who most of that shit was about), but there's so much guff spouted within you realise he's just telling you what he's read in the last month.

It seems like he's just mashing together 2 or 3 already written essays of his, and then haphazardly turning into a review about animal collective. Honestly, I barely see where animal collective even fit in, as that article could have been about any band at all, in that they're just a vehicle to let everyone see him cite noam chomsky in a review. Thank you sir for pushing the bounds of masturbatory music writing.

I love how he constantly says things and then says "Not say that..."

Animal collective are racist rich kids because they sing abouts about dirt and rocks which isn't to say that they're racist or rich or sing songs about dirt and rocks.

Paragraph One: Wonders idly whether the EP's release was motivated by artistic or financial considerations. Then pushes the question aside because non-album-format releases are moral trasgressions on the level of unspecified "war crimes" (in passing, congratulates himself on the moral heroism this brave insight required).

Paragraph Two: Allows that the music is interesting, but is troubled by a "problematic" - namely that the band is racist and classist.

Paragraph Three: Provides a brief tutorial on "New Weird America" and unveils a "devastating" critique: because black musicians contributed to the current state of American pop, white musicians who like other white musicians are racist.

Paragraph Four: Compares AC's treatment of nature with Devendra B.'s treatment of Karen Dalton. Suggests that to describe someone's work as transcendentally great or "mystical" somehow diminishes the contribution of the individual.

Paragraph Five: Drives the comparison home by suggesting that Animal Collective's nature fetish is bogus in a completely unrelated way.

Paragraph Six: Blames AC for having grown up in the general vicinity of "a number of very elite private schools" and a park designed by Frederic Law Olmstead.

Paragraph Seven: Congratulates AC on their production of "the latest manifestation of the concealed bourgeois conception of nature, Water Curses."

http://inaeent.com/otio/hegel.gif

huzzah

"The way nature is portrayed in Animal Collective’s music is strongly tied to this bourgeois antimodernity and because they have such influence within the American underground (that phrase is perhaps tongue-in-cheek), it further reinforces the idea of Nature-as-other, as something different than human, a conception that has contributed greatly to the current environmental crisis." (!!!!!!!!!!!)

http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1848/communist-manifesto/ch01.htm

"the general principle stands: if there’s nothing in the culture to tell you any different, then how could you possibly think outside the bounds of what is offered to you?"

the general question is then: if there's noting in your undergrad cultural studies syllabus to tell you any different, then how could you possibly think outside the bounds of what is offered to you?

I don't read dusted, but is this typical of most of their reviews??

In defense of Dusted, no. This is some spectacular next level bullshit.

Contenderizer's summary is gr8. Kudos.

Paragraph seven is even more ridiculous than you gave it "credit" for ... he's basically saying "I'm not necessarily claiming that Animal Collective are racist rich white kids, but I like to *pretend* that they're racist rich white kids because it gives me something to write about."

so does anyone have anything to say about the new animal collective ep or shall we piss and moan about some random college kid s'more

I don't read dusted, but is this typical of most of their reviews??

they have one or two dudes who push that style but mostly, no, it's not like that

Wow, I can't think of anything I would want to read less than a jargon laden "attack" of Animal Collective. Even if it's supposed to be funny in how bad it is, that's pretty fucking tedious.

(But I kind of agree with what the article's saying about the danger of fetishizing artists and how it takes away their individual agency. I just wouldn't say it like that.)