latepassapedia: records that were light years better the ones indie dudes eventually endorsed as classics

I only heard that 'chemistry of common man' album which is awes but if I should check out the earlier stuff I will

― acoleuthic, Sunday, January 30, 2011 6:09 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

thread did some good.

BUY IT NOW THE OPENING TRACK IS REALLY EXCITING AS IS 'DAYS OF LAST'

:)

"Epics In Minutes" is a compilation of their 7"s, "Baiting The Public", "Police", "Circling The Drain", all excellent

http://www.latenightwallflower.com/site/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/indie.jpg

Pissed Jeans - Shallow

^ they tell me in that other indie thread that this is not indie rock

horsepower productions - in fine style
MRI - all that glitters

miles davis - bitches brew

― smang a goon (get it on) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, January 30, 2011 2:08 PM Bookmark

What is the miles davis record eventually endorsed by indie dudes as a classic then? On the Corner? Jack Johnson? Silent Way? Is there really only one?

On the Corner is pretty much the one, yeah. Indie folks don't fuck with acoustic Miles, in my experience.

On the Corner is great but it's kind of the Miles record that sounds least like a Miles record. Still, I kind of thought Bitches Brew was cannon for indie dudes who dabble in jazz.

Nah, Bitches Brew is canonical Miles for Sixties rock dudes. OTC is the one for people who grew up in a post-hip hop, post-Laswell soundworld.

Down - NOLA

^ dunno, they always got a vinyl copy of Bitches Brew for sale in indie shops. think it's the canonical Miles selection for non-jazz ppl in general. OTC is go2 for yr more "discerning" indie types.

First Clutch album (can't google the name) is an even better example.

OD has one of my favorite songs of all time on it (Dead Bent) but I actually like KMD's Mr. Hood even more...

Art of Self Defense is easily one of my favorite albums of the decade.

Contendo otm re: Miles.

Indie is superior to most genres of the past 25 years, y'know, but there were some great and very underrated non-indie albums released in the first half of the 80s:

Depeche Mode: Construction Time Again
Thompson Twins: Quick Step & Sidekick
Howard Jones: Human's Lib
Alphaville: Forever Young

so you guys have been having one hell of a sunday huh

WOOT!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ItZyaOlrb7E

i honestly didn't think using a seemingly self-explanatory shorthand for "publications on the web and in print that focus primarily on indie (the genre) music" would be all that inflammatory. But it's apparantly like Pauly D from Jersey Shore walking into the middle of Daddy's at happy hour and yelling "HIPSTERS!"

never under estimate the dumb shit people can get butthurt about on this site

― art crüt (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, January 31, 2011 6:42 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark

some pretty awesome faux-naivete "honest officer, I had no idea..."

seriously, though, i thought ilx took pride in setting itself from "corny indie fuxxors" instead of immediately wanting to chain themselves at the gates of the Hype Machine offices because someone said something that looks little disparaging about the fucking hivemind

\o_O/

guys, Phoenix might not be a good band

*runs away*

anyway

linkin park - meteora

seriously, though, i thought ilx took pride in setting itself from "corny indie fuxxors"

u actually meant "ilx likes to pretend it takes pride in"

yo whiney u wanna go to daddy's and eat chips and watch turner classic movies tonight or what

The-Dream - Love Hate
Fucked Up - Hidden World

― url sweatshirt (Whiney G. Weingarten), Sunday, January 30, 2011 1:21 PM (6 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

anyways, these are both wrong if you stick to your original "light years better" assertion instead of your softpedaled "pre-hype records worth checking out"

i think the new metal mountains record is record of the year so far but it /MIGHT/ be an indie rock record, it's hard to tell.

lmao

so are groundswell, rise rise rise or stay afraid worth checking out

8-)

nu-balearic is latepass for naked records

:p

i thought ilx took pride in setting itself from "corny indie fuxxors"

this is the bobbing turd of suck in an otherwise delightful punchbowl

fuck a poppalmoose tho

anyways, these are both wrong if you stick to your original "light years better" assertion instead of your softpedaled "pre-hype records worth checking out"

Yeah, this is the part about this thread that feels off to me. I don't buy the notion that there is a single "best" record that invalidates all other releases by some of the artists listed itt.

I feel this way about Mastodon and Spiritualized. Leviathan and Lazer Guided Melodies are both excellent, but in no way light years better than subsequent albums.

Most bands that I truly like have multiple albums that I would listen to.

i think the new metal mountains record is record of the year so far but it /MIGHT/ be an indie rock record, it's hard to tell.

Not unless the music they make all of a sudden started rocking.

is low an indie rock band? what about flying saucer attack

i'm gonna stop trolling this thread now, sorry guys

jay-z vol 3

kinda funny who whiney will go after and who he won't

J.Timb "Justified"

Okay maybe it's not "light years better," but most of the choices listed here aren't either.

i think j0rdan is more crippingly self-aware than anyone on ilx save myself and markers

― url sweatshirt (Whiney G. Weingarten), Sunday, 30 January 2011 19:14 (Yesterday) Bookmark

you really think this is true or was this just wildfire zingin? cause i feel like the opposite of this is true; to me j0rdan and al are the most shameless ilm posters ito taste

generalist critics are always and will always be late simply because they're trying to canvas the entire field. they're not out there in all the world's clubs watching microgenres develop, watching bands & artists in every local scene around the world come up. they might be intimately engaged with one or two niches, but they can't catch everything, so they inevitably catch up. this is fine. there's nothing wrong with it.

But then, I find that many critics - regardless of genre - are a bit too fast looking for the "next big thing" or whatever new trends the hipsters are into. Personally, I feel that most of my favourite acts haven't really nailed their style until around the 2nd or 3rd album. Debut albums are often a good selection of songs, given that the act has been writing them for some time before their debut, but they also tend to be a bit too purist for their own good, about nailing one particular sound or style and staying with that for the entire album. The 2nd and 3rd albums tend to be more varied in terms of styles and arrangements (like, maybe adding a few more instruments and production details to the mix, and not just doing fast songs but also the occasional ballad to vary the styles on the album).

My point? That the likes of NME, Pitchfork and surely also dance critics/DJs, sometimes tend to be a bit too quick searching for new trends and styles. Simply because debut albums are rarely the best album of acts that do actually last.
So maybe the generalist critics are the ones who get to nail the most important albums after all? At a time when those acts may already be deemed uninteresting for NME or Pitchfork because they have been around for longer than half a year?

one final lol to be had is whiney having a Ph.D in hipster studies but playing dumb at the idea that 'indie' can have so many connotations! and might be a watchword!

anyway keeping with the spirit, diddy - press play & prob. no way out (nb I haven't heard these two)

remission is the best mastodon album & p4k liked it off the bat i thought

can't believe I waited so long to click on this thread, this is something of a masterpiece

Baroness - The Red Album
Pig Destroyer - Terrifyer

― url sweatshirt (Whiney G. Weingarten), Sunday, January 30, 2011 6:27 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

i'm just here to say that these choices are incorrect

nick drake - time has told me
quicksand - slip
opeth - orchid
massive attack - no protection
x - wild gift
enslaved - isa

against me - reinventing axl rose

=D

Yes, OBVIOUSLY, it's a snarky way of saying it. But I wish people would listen to The Bug's Pressure . . . because (it is a) dope album

totally true, but i still think london-zoo is better.

artists where indie ppl were right on it

- cam'ron
- t.i.
- kanye west

― lilwayne.quizrewards4u.com (J0rdan S.), Sunday, January 30, 2011 2:04 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

pshhhhhh Trap Muzik is still Tip's best album and Diplomatic Immunity and Cam shit before that is all underrated by herbs that jumped on the bandwagon later

i have always been up on Tip, and I would def say King is hands down best.

Killa Cam, like every album is a "7" across the fucking board and it's total NOSD to pick faves

yeah i think jordan's def in the minority thinking king > trap muzik

both are excellent obv

xp well then