the pavement reunion show was grebt but seeing spiral was kind of sad
― mookieproof, Thursday, 10 February 2011 00:13 (thirteen years ago) link
stevon malkie and the infinite slackness
― buzza, Thursday, 10 February 2011 00:14 (thirteen years ago) link
Yeah Spiral looks like he could be everyone else's dad. Maybe not Westie.
― Pirates of the Caribbean V: Letters of Marque & Reprisal (Phil D.), Thursday, 10 February 2011 00:16 (thirteen years ago) link
pumpkins had the better drummer, i'll give em that
― Ayo Scott (rip van wanko), Thursday, 10 February 2011 00:17 (thirteen years ago) link
i wouldn't doubt if smashing pumpkins was a kiss-type deal where billy was the band financially and the other members were just paid employees
― pajamagram sam (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 10 February 2011 00:17 (thirteen years ago) link
Well, weren't they? Corgan boasted, half sheepishly, that he played all the guitar and a lot of the bass on those early records.
― Rich Lolwry (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 10 February 2011 00:18 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah I thought that was the deal
― lmao reminisces about his days in southern china (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 10 February 2011 00:19 (thirteen years ago) link
The Pumpkins got better after the shaved head! Funny how some Pumpkins fans don't remember their early days, when they weren't bad at all, but probably kind of "sucked" by stadium rock terms.
this is madness
(voted Walt Mink)
― O_o-O_0-o_O (jjjusten), Thursday, 10 February 2011 00:20 (thirteen years ago) link
I have never gotten what everybody thinks is so special about Jimmy Chamberlin's drumming. was completely surprised a few years ago to find he's entered the legions of "drum heroes" at Guitar Center, for ex.
― lmao reminisces about his days in southern china (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 10 February 2011 00:20 (thirteen years ago) link
I mean he's not bad, but I have a similar head-scratching reaction whenever a drummer praises U2's rhythm section
― lmao reminisces about his days in southern china (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 10 February 2011 00:21 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah i just wasn't 100 percent sure but that was my impression
plus obv they wouldn't get songwriting or publishing, but if he played everything than d'arcy and james wouldn't get ANY royalties right?
just the gig money then, but yeah i bet they made remarkably little for being in what was p much the biggest band on earth for a minute
― O_o-O_0-o_O (jjjusten), Wednesday, February 9, 2011 6:20 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
hahahahaha
― pajamagram sam (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 10 February 2011 00:21 (thirteen years ago) link
now walt mink those dudes could fuckin' PLAY man
― pajamagram sam (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 10 February 2011 00:22 (thirteen years ago) link
spiral looked like paul simon (now), while sm looked suitably indie rock-god-ish
― mookieproof, Thursday, 10 February 2011 00:24 (thirteen years ago) link
i know i've said this elsewhere on ilm but jimmy chamberlain is a boring boring drummer
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 10 February 2011 00:24 (thirteen years ago) link
he's no kenny aronoff
― pajamagram sam (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 10 February 2011 00:25 (thirteen years ago) link
Iha apparently has enough money to run a studio and a boutique label so I guess he isn't living out of a dumpster just yet
― lmao reminisces about his days in southern china (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 10 February 2011 00:25 (thirteen years ago) link
Pretty sure Iha has a couple songwriting credits on Mellon Collie.
― Mr. Snrub, Thursday, 10 February 2011 00:43 (thirteen years ago) link
stephen malkmus is a babe
― horseshoe, Thursday, 10 February 2011 00:44 (thirteen years ago) link
pavement
i am sorry for the infinite sadness of people who do not get why
― da croupier, Wednesday, February 9, 2011 7:11 PM (32 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
otm
Pumpkins easily. I still listen to Mellon Collie and Siamese Dream a lot, and I'm even a fan of that Aeroplane cash-in boxset ("Cherry"! "Tribute to Johnny"! Prety much every song on the "Tonight Tonight" single!). I still find it amazing that Billy could write like forty amazing songs in the span of two years, and nothing even remotely resembling an amazing song whatsoever for the next sixteen.
Pavement were never really my thing. I like "Summer Babe," "Stop Breathin'," "Perfume V," "Texas Never Whispers," and "In the Mouth of a Desert," but that's about it.
― Mr. Snrub, Thursday, 10 February 2011 01:00 (thirteen years ago) link
my dad thought pavement were some band from school's demo tape i had, and was quite shocked that they were a proper signed act.
― http://i56.tinypic.com/xnsu1g.gif (max arrrrrgh), Thursday, 10 February 2011 01:27 (thirteen years ago) link
"your mate does a good american accent... v sloppy playing, tho."
― http://i56.tinypic.com/xnsu1g.gif (max arrrrrgh), Thursday, 10 February 2011 01:28 (thirteen years ago) link
For all the abuse Pavement get for "not properly playing" or whatever, to my ears they sound closer -- in songwriting and feel -- to the studio rock I love from the seventies than the Pumpkins.
― Rich Lolwry (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 10 February 2011 01:31 (thirteen years ago) link
no, true. i love them. there's a clip on a documentary were some german journalist basically tells them that. "you are brinking ze rock back!"
― http://i56.tinypic.com/xnsu1g.gif (max arrrrrgh), Thursday, 10 February 2011 01:33 (thirteen years ago) link
pavement had one song where you can actually feel something: "In the Mouth a Desert". smashing pumpkins has at the very least: "1979", "tonight" and "thirty-three". not even their rock songs but at least they are memorable
― homeless romantic (CaptainLorax), Thursday, 10 February 2011 01:47 (thirteen years ago) link
Pavement was a decent (if still overrated act) up to and sort of including S&E (which was still decent, but god knows nothing as special as it was made out to be). After that they basically sucked. The Smashing Pumpkins always sucked.
― Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Thursday, 10 February 2011 01:57 (thirteen years ago) link
I think the people that like pavement somehow get something out of the guy's voice. Whether they can relate to it or whatever. I don't know what
― homeless romantic (CaptainLorax), Thursday, 10 February 2011 02:43 (thirteen years ago) link
but relating to a voice can be a big cause for liking something music-wise
― homeless romantic (CaptainLorax), Thursday, 10 February 2011 02:44 (thirteen years ago) link
You're forgetting something: Billy Corgan's reedy thin whine/yelp.
― i love you but i have chosen snarkness (Steve Shasta), Thursday, 10 February 2011 02:52 (thirteen years ago) link
Whining is '30 Seconds to Mars' and a bunch of contemporary rock. Corgan's growl sounds more like holding out a long nasalized note than whining (or something to that effect).
― homeless romantic (CaptainLorax), Thursday, 10 February 2011 03:01 (thirteen years ago) link
and his shitty middle school journal lyrics
xp
― Moreno, Thursday, 10 February 2011 03:03 (thirteen years ago) link
"corgan's growl"??
― mookieproof, Thursday, 10 February 2011 03:03 (thirteen years ago) link
ultimately pavement is bro music
― pajamagram sam (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 10 February 2011 03:03 (thirteen years ago) link
the further i get out from when Smashing Pumpkins were at their peak, the more i appreciate how great their best stuff was. and with each passing year, i wonder more and more why the hell i ever liked Pavement enough to own all of their albums, shit just has no use to me outside of a handful of songs that only occasionally sound good.
― some dude, Thursday, 10 February 2011 03:06 (thirteen years ago) link
...bros that go to coffee shops to play scrabble
― homeless romantic (CaptainLorax), Thursday, 10 February 2011 03:07 (thirteen years ago) link
hahaha
― some dude, Thursday, 10 February 2011 03:08 (thirteen years ago) link
bros who go home to fuck other bros
― Rich Lolwry (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 10 February 2011 03:08 (thirteen years ago) link
lol
― homeless romantic (CaptainLorax), Thursday, 10 February 2011 03:09 (thirteen years ago) link
TS: smugness vs megalomania
― gallagher 3 (latebloomer), Thursday, 10 February 2011 03:09 (thirteen years ago) link
bro life is a kaleidescope of experiences: scrabble, gay sex, preston school of industry, alcoholism, horse racing
― pajamagram sam (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 10 February 2011 03:10 (thirteen years ago) link
― mookieproof,
corgan's howl*
― homeless romantic (CaptainLorax), Thursday, 10 February 2011 03:10 (thirteen years ago) link
he growls like a ninny. awful
― i love you but i have chosen snarkness (Steve Shasta), Thursday, 10 February 2011 03:11 (thirteen years ago) link
"corgan's howl"
^^if this was a broadway rock opera based on the ginsberg joint, now we'd be in business!
― pajamagram sam (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 10 February 2011 03:12 (thirteen years ago) link
despite all my rage i am still just a bitchy bald dude
― mookieproof, Thursday, 10 February 2011 03:13 (thirteen years ago) link
that doesn't rhyme :-/
― gallagher 3 (latebloomer), Thursday, 10 February 2011 03:15 (thirteen years ago) link
despite all my gold soundz i am a neutered git
― homeless romantic (CaptainLorax), Thursday, 10 February 2011 03:17 (thirteen years ago) link
despite all my rage i will not come to terms with my age
― mookieproof, Thursday, 10 February 2011 03:18 (thirteen years ago) link
despite how i squeal i am still just a mouse in a wheel
― some dude, Thursday, 10 February 2011 03:18 (thirteen years ago) link
Intoxicated by the badnessI'm in love with my lameness
― Rich Lolwry (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 10 February 2011 03:22 (thirteen years ago) link
we need our balls balls balls balls balls balls back right now
― homeless romantic (CaptainLorax), Thursday, 10 February 2011 03:27 (thirteen years ago) link
hmm... Billy is not a Trump supporter
― flappy bird, Tuesday, 17 January 2017 18:16 (seven years ago) link
is that what Alex Jones told you
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 17 January 2017 18:21 (seven years ago) link
oh, please. the only times I've ever listened or watched Infowars have been when Billy was a guest. he's never said anything hateful or discriminatory on there, it's all very hippy dippy spiritual stuff. and yeah, he's bought gold in bulk before, distilled water etc... he's a bit cuckoo. but not hateful. he's a contrarian and a conspiracy theorist, can't deny that.
― flappy bird, Tuesday, 17 January 2017 19:20 (seven years ago) link