"corgan's howl"
^^if this was a broadway rock opera based on the ginsberg joint, now we'd be in business!
― pajamagram sam (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 10 February 2011 03:12 (thirteen years ago) link
despite all my rage i am still just a bitchy bald dude
― mookieproof, Thursday, 10 February 2011 03:13 (thirteen years ago) link
that doesn't rhyme :-/
― gallagher 3 (latebloomer), Thursday, 10 February 2011 03:15 (thirteen years ago) link
despite all my gold soundz i am a neutered git
― homeless romantic (CaptainLorax), Thursday, 10 February 2011 03:17 (thirteen years ago) link
despite all my rage i will not come to terms with my age
― mookieproof, Thursday, 10 February 2011 03:18 (thirteen years ago) link
despite how i squeal i am still just a mouse in a wheel
― some dude, Thursday, 10 February 2011 03:18 (thirteen years ago) link
Intoxicated by the badnessI'm in love with my lameness
― Rich Lolwry (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 10 February 2011 03:22 (thirteen years ago) link
we need our balls balls balls balls balls balls back right now
― homeless romantic (CaptainLorax), Thursday, 10 February 2011 03:27 (thirteen years ago) link
I like where this thread is heading
― van smack, Thursday, 10 February 2011 03:28 (thirteen years ago) link
http://www.pvusd.net/schools/central_zone/rolling_hills_middle_school/images/rollinghills-sign.jpg
― tylerw, Thursday, 10 February 2011 03:31 (thirteen years ago) link
what about the voice of billy c
― gallagher 3 (latebloomer), Thursday, 10 February 2011 03:32 (thirteen years ago) link
i wonder if he speaks like an ordinary guy?
I fucked him and he doesn't.
― Rich Lolwry (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 10 February 2011 03:37 (thirteen years ago) link
you fucked him with your pussy
― homeless romantic (CaptainLorax), Thursday, 10 February 2011 03:37 (thirteen years ago) link
kool kids never had the whine
― pajamagram sam (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 10 February 2011 03:40 (thirteen years ago) link
that's not fair. pavement don't have any memorable lyrics
― homeless romantic (CaptainLorax), Thursday, 10 February 2011 03:42 (thirteen years ago) link
their lyrics also make fun of smashing pumpkins
― tylerw, Thursday, 10 February 2011 03:43 (thirteen years ago) link
this thread took a turn for the awesome
― lmao reminisces about his days in southern china (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 10 February 2011 04:04 (thirteen years ago) link
I/it has no function.
― Rich Lolwry (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 10 February 2011 04:07 (thirteen years ago) link
lorax straight tearing holes in u dudes
i loved pumpkins as a kid, never got into pavement at all. went back to siamese dream once and other than disarm which is still goth power ballad 4eva it was really clunky leaden shit
― goole, Thursday, 10 February 2011 04:10 (thirteen years ago) link
I love this clip. The end where he apologizes for his shitty singing is quite a treat. btw there are endless amounts "Pavement Shreds" youtube clips.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDtZousQsME
― van smack, Thursday, 10 February 2011 04:29 (thirteen years ago) link
real lols
― van smack, Thursday, 10 February 2011 04:30 (thirteen years ago) link
Lorax just became one of my favourite posters
― uh oh i'm having an aneurysm (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, 10 February 2011 04:40 (thirteen years ago) link
despite all my rage I am still just a latter-day saint
― A Alphabetical Leader (Abbbottt), Thursday, 10 February 2011 04:43 (thirteen years ago) link
Pavement are the progenitors of 'ugh indie'.
― uh oh i'm having an aneurysm (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, 10 February 2011 04:51 (thirteen years ago) link
pavementi am sorry for the infinite sadness of people who do not get why― da croupier, Thursday, February 10, 2011 12:11 AM (4 hours ago) Bookmark
i am sorry for the infinite sadness of people who do not get why
― da croupier, Thursday, February 10, 2011 12:11 AM (4 hours ago) Bookmark
― there is a lout that never goes "aight" (bernard snowy), Thursday, 10 February 2011 05:01 (thirteen years ago) link
pavement:american 1990s :: wallace stevens:american 1950s
― there is a lout that never goes "aight" (bernard snowy), Thursday, 10 February 2011 05:02 (thirteen years ago) link
one of my friends hates everything after S&E b/c malkmus's voice is "too pretty" or "too pop" or something, I forget exactly how he put it but either way that's a pretty dumb thing to say
― there is a lout that never goes "aight" (bernard snowy), Thursday, 10 February 2011 05:04 (thirteen years ago) link
1979 > pavement's entire career (which I like!)
― iatee, Thursday, 10 February 2011 05:04 (thirteen years ago) link
Keep my ass-ness to yourself
― uh oh i'm having an aneurysm (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, 10 February 2011 05:05 (thirteen years ago) link
(btw i know it's sorta predictable that pavement had to fall from the lofty heights of indie sacred-cow status they occupied ~10 yrs ago... but that doesn't make the hateration any more comprehensible to me)
― there is a lout that never goes "aight" (bernard snowy), Thursday, 10 February 2011 05:06 (thirteen years ago) link
Actually the Stevens comparison interests me. Care to elaborate?
― uh oh i'm having an aneurysm (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, 10 February 2011 05:14 (thirteen years ago) link
"i hear they live in crematoria and smoke your remains" one of the best lines malkmus ever wrote. out of many, many good ones. the line about smashing pumpkins, on the other hand, one of the weakest lines he wrote.
i rate myself punkin sympathizer but this is not even close.
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Thursday, 10 February 2011 06:13 (thirteen years ago) link
Pavement was a decent (if still overrated act) up to and sort of including S&E
Haha, I love/hate sentences like this one. "They were pretty good up until people got the opportunity to hear them on record!"
― Pirates of the Caribbean V: Letters of Marque & Reprisal (Phil D.), Thursday, 10 February 2011 14:25 (thirteen years ago) link
The-Pavement: Slant Me All Summer/Enchant Me All Winter
― Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Thursday, 10 February 2011 14:59 (thirteen years ago) link
They were pretty good up until people got the opportunity to hear them on record!
this sums up my experience with Pavement to a T.
― kkvbgz (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, 10 February 2011 16:38 (thirteen years ago) link
Actually the Stevens comparison interests me. Care to elaborate?― uh oh i'm having an aneurysm (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, February 10, 2011 5:14 AM (11 hours ago) Bookmark
― uh oh i'm having an aneurysm (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, February 10, 2011 5:14 AM (11 hours ago) Bookmark
1. immediate (or immediately posthumous) canonization by similar demographic (intelligent, vaguely-dissatisfied white college bros);2. quiet, unglamorous lifestyle and public image (indie rock = resistance of 'art' as vocation?); and3. a certain self-awareness in Malkmus' lyrics that affects me in the same way as Stevens' meta-poetic reflections
― there is a lout that never goes "aight" (bernard snowy), Thursday, 10 February 2011 16:43 (thirteen years ago) link
(nb i don't know all that much about wallace stevens)
― there is a lout that never goes "aight" (bernard snowy), Thursday, 10 February 2011 16:44 (thirteen years ago) link
lol for some reason I read Wallace Stevens as Wallace Shawn
― lmao reminisces about his days in southern china (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 10 February 2011 16:45 (thirteen years ago) link
"i hear they live in crematoria and smoke yr remains" is a line that sounds like it could be from some Modernist poet
otoh the lyrics to Gold Soundz and Cut Yr Hair (and Range Life for that matter) seems like some self-reflexive bullshit to me
― kkvbgz (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, 10 February 2011 16:46 (thirteen years ago) link
((also I am thinking much more abt the last 3 or 4 albums than S&E))
― there is a lout that never goes "aight" (bernard snowy), Thursday, 10 February 2011 16:46 (thirteen years ago) link
excellent malkmus lyrics:
GlanceDon't stareSoon you're being told to recognize your heirs [Ed.—could also be "airs" I suppose]
NoNot meI'm an island of such great complexity
Stresssurroundsin the muddy peaceful center of this town
Tellme offin the hotel lobby, right in front ofall the bellboys and the overfriendly concierge.
― there is a lout that never goes "aight" (bernard snowy), Thursday, 10 February 2011 16:55 (thirteen years ago) link
The gauzy thoughtsof the sturdy Scotswrestle with the elements up on the trail high;I need to know,where does it go,how do I get there, and what will I find?
― there is a lout that never goes "aight" (bernard snowy), Thursday, 10 February 2011 16:56 (thirteen years ago) link
obviously these all work better as song lyrics but well y'know
also I really love certain aspects of their songwriting, the weird left-turns which are sometimes just plain brilliant, like the hang before the chorus in "Shady Lane" that gives Malkmus time to squeeze in a few more syllables before the tension finally breaks
― there is a lout that never goes "aight" (bernard snowy), Thursday, 10 February 2011 17:03 (thirteen years ago) link
the edge of creation is blurred and blushed
Malkmus has so many great lines. Corgan has pretty much none, it's all high-school level notebook poetry. Corgan's strengths were primarily as a studio tech - shaping the Pumpkins sound with all those weird, layered guitars. It's clear he focused most on the craft of recording - arranging guitar parts, fiddling to find the right combo of hyper-compressed and overdriven rhythm guitars, etc. But Malkie is the superior writer in every way.
― lmao reminisces about his days in southern china (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 10 February 2011 17:03 (thirteen years ago) link
Alex Ross wrote a New Yorker article in '97 in which he made self-satisfied Ashbery comparisons.
― Rich Lolwry (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 10 February 2011 17:11 (thirteen years ago) link
um Pavement's '97 album title is taken from Ashbery iirc
― lmao reminisces about his days in southern china (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 10 February 2011 17:23 (thirteen years ago) link
so Malkmus kinda explicitly invited those comparisons
― lmao reminisces about his days in southern china (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 10 February 2011 17:24 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah was gonna say, not the craziest comparison in the world.
― tylerw, Thursday, 10 February 2011 17:25 (thirteen years ago) link
wld like to read that new yorker article if it's online
I have "self-portrait in a convex mirror" sitting open on my desk beside me — I like the idea of long-ass poems but rarely want to put in the effort to actually read them. this is pretty good so far tho.
― there is a lout that never goes "aight" (bernard snowy), Thursday, 10 February 2011 17:29 (thirteen years ago) link