TS: Pavement / Smashing Pumpkins

is D'arcy still smoking crack?

also: here's the pic

What are the best/essential Smashing Pumpkins tracks?

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http://www.awfulplasticsurgery.com/archives/darcy_wretsky_smashing_pump.jpg

Corgan looks like one of those kids who's prematurely aged 50 years

All this talk about lyrics reminds me once again how lyrics generally don't matter unless you already like the music, and sometimes not even then. I can't remember past "cool kids never had the time" or any of the choruses for smashing pumpkins songs.

I think pavement bros are mostly the same kind of people that have a much higher opinion of lyrics than me (whether they *truly* care for pavement lyrics or not). It has something to do with how most pavement bros just happen to be some sort of literary geeks for whatever odd reason.

Maybe I'm guessing too wildly here but I like this (self created) stereotype because I consider a lot of ILM bros to be book-minded people. I mean, why would anyone read Pitchfork for any other reason than liking to read things about music? Pitchfork scores and their top picks are likely turn everyone off except for lyric/book-minded nerds. Again, this is just a wild accusation based on my wild stereotyping.

lyrics generally don't matter unless you already like the music,

this is not how I listen to music, sorry.

so in my case maybe your stereotype is correct lol

(I was raised by a librarian)

days of being wild

i like reading and pavement, it's true

sweet lord fucking jesus this is the fucking pixies vs placebo thread all over again. too obvious, i'm not falling for it. where is my tin foil hat.

spiralli just you wait until I start The National vs Trail of Dead

trail of dead easy

ya obv but I fear for ILM

Trail of Dead even though Source Tags and Codes sounds like Couch's Fantasy with superfluous vocals

I like reading too

The National is a bad analogue for Pavement, tbh. Vampire Weekend is a better one. Maybe. IDK. ffs.

Spoon?

nah Spoon are all clean edges and crispness and subtle production

like a good spoon

Spoon works just fine...

maybe you should do that poll (National vs. ...AYWKUBTTOD) just so that I can know for sure whether I need to fear for ILM

I don't see any similarities between Spoon and Pavement, sorry. VW has the patrician/preppie thing but well, Pavement were never interested in African music

I mean, why would anyone read Pitchfork for any other reason than liking to read things about music?

― homeless romantic (CaptainLorax), Thursday, 10 February 2011 18:18 (11 minutes ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rh44RGzwql0

sounds exactly like late pavement imo

i like the other stuff on that that sounds like archers of loaf

which archers of loaf are you thinking of here?
(didn't ppl used to compare them to pavement a lot? they actually did kinda sound like them on the first album, but much less so on the subsequent ones)

I thought Archers only had two albums...?

huh I've never listened to a series of sneaks before

that song sounds like pavement, no particular archers just some of their guitar work on the early stuff reminds me of archers in general (obv the vocalists are way diff)

I thought Archers only had two albums...?

― kkvbgz (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, February 10, 2011 1:48 PM (34 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

no! they had 4 studio albums, 2 EP/collections of odds and sods (actually as awesome as the studio albums, and 2 live albums

oh wow so they do.

sorry the only ones I've ever heard of were Vee Vee and Icky Mettle

damn, what happened to the bass player, she used to be cute, right?
http://www.tmz.com/2011/02/10/smashing-pumpkins-bassist-darcy-wretzky-jailed-arrested-horses-farm-michigan-ticket-failure-to-appear-bench-warrant/#comments-anchor

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I do think m@tt is right; at heart Pavement is bro music, and I think that a lot of the schmindie they ushered in is bro music too...which makes me wonder why I dislike it so much. I do know that most of the guys I would call 'bros' irl would much rather listen to Pumpkins then Anco or Pavement or Spoon or LCD or anything like that...

(hey Louis what about LCD?)

http://en.academic.ru/pictures/enwiki/68/Darcy002.jpg

(also, I wonder where D'Arcy lived in Michigan?)

Methsville

Heroin Twp

zing

oh man, an LCD S vs TOD poll would lead to real bloodshed, and I don't even like TOD *that* much

LCD S vs The Fall = use of the suggest ban function

yeah p much

sorry the only ones I've ever heard of were Vee Vee and Icky Mettle

― kkvbgz (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, February 10, 2011 1:53 PM (21 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i really love all the nation's airports (3rd studio) and the last studio (white trash heroes) is a p cool left-turn once you get used to it...

but man, if you don't have Vs. the Greatest of All Time and Speed of Cattle (2 ep comps) you are missing some classics of the early period!

(also, I wonder where D'Arcy lived in Michigan?)

Real answer: Watervliet

Don Van Watervliet

(That's what I used to think whenever I drove by that city on I-94.)

Watervliet is not that far from where I live...

(I've thought about the Van Watervliet thing too)

hell, 'That Sound Wiped' is a zillion times better at dancepop than anything J Murphy has done

ok I'll zip it

I read that as J. Mascis for a second there.

Oof! Darcy Wrecked-tzky

1979
Soma
Mayonaise

Any of these 3 songs alone destroys Pavement's entire catalog.

those three songs aren't better than "loretta's scars," "unfair," "here," "stop breathin'," or "gold soundz"

TS: smugness vs megalomania

― gallagher 3 (latebloomer), Wednesday, February 9, 2011 7:09 PM (Yesterday)

indie autism vs. megalomania