TS: Pavement / Smashing Pumpkins

sweet lord fucking jesus this is the fucking pixies vs placebo thread all over again. too obvious, i'm not falling for it. where is my tin foil hat.

spiralli just you wait until I start The National vs Trail of Dead

trail of dead easy

ya obv but I fear for ILM

Trail of Dead even though Source Tags and Codes sounds like Couch's Fantasy with superfluous vocals

I like reading too

The National is a bad analogue for Pavement, tbh. Vampire Weekend is a better one. Maybe. IDK. ffs.

Spoon?

nah Spoon are all clean edges and crispness and subtle production

like a good spoon

Spoon works just fine...

maybe you should do that poll (National vs. ...AYWKUBTTOD) just so that I can know for sure whether I need to fear for ILM

I don't see any similarities between Spoon and Pavement, sorry. VW has the patrician/preppie thing but well, Pavement were never interested in African music

I mean, why would anyone read Pitchfork for any other reason than liking to read things about music?

― homeless romantic (CaptainLorax), Thursday, 10 February 2011 18:18 (11 minutes ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rh44RGzwql0

sounds exactly like late pavement imo

i like the other stuff on that that sounds like archers of loaf

which archers of loaf are you thinking of here?
(didn't ppl used to compare them to pavement a lot? they actually did kinda sound like them on the first album, but much less so on the subsequent ones)

I thought Archers only had two albums...?

huh I've never listened to a series of sneaks before

that song sounds like pavement, no particular archers just some of their guitar work on the early stuff reminds me of archers in general (obv the vocalists are way diff)

I thought Archers only had two albums...?

― kkvbgz (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, February 10, 2011 1:48 PM (34 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

no! they had 4 studio albums, 2 EP/collections of odds and sods (actually as awesome as the studio albums, and 2 live albums

oh wow so they do.

sorry the only ones I've ever heard of were Vee Vee and Icky Mettle

damn, what happened to the bass player, she used to be cute, right?
http://www.tmz.com/2011/02/10/smashing-pumpkins-bassist-darcy-wretzky-jailed-arrested-horses-farm-michigan-ticket-failure-to-appear-bench-warrant/#comments-anchor

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I do think m@tt is right; at heart Pavement is bro music, and I think that a lot of the schmindie they ushered in is bro music too...which makes me wonder why I dislike it so much. I do know that most of the guys I would call 'bros' irl would much rather listen to Pumpkins then Anco or Pavement or Spoon or LCD or anything like that...

(hey Louis what about LCD?)

http://en.academic.ru/pictures/enwiki/68/Darcy002.jpg

(also, I wonder where D'Arcy lived in Michigan?)

Methsville

Heroin Twp

zing

oh man, an LCD S vs TOD poll would lead to real bloodshed, and I don't even like TOD *that* much

LCD S vs The Fall = use of the suggest ban function

yeah p much

sorry the only ones I've ever heard of were Vee Vee and Icky Mettle

― kkvbgz (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, February 10, 2011 1:53 PM (21 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i really love all the nation's airports (3rd studio) and the last studio (white trash heroes) is a p cool left-turn once you get used to it...

but man, if you don't have Vs. the Greatest of All Time and Speed of Cattle (2 ep comps) you are missing some classics of the early period!

(also, I wonder where D'Arcy lived in Michigan?)

Real answer: Watervliet

Don Van Watervliet

(That's what I used to think whenever I drove by that city on I-94.)

Watervliet is not that far from where I live...

(I've thought about the Van Watervliet thing too)

hell, 'That Sound Wiped' is a zillion times better at dancepop than anything J Murphy has done

ok I'll zip it

I read that as J. Mascis for a second there.

Oof! Darcy Wrecked-tzky

1979
Soma
Mayonaise

Any of these 3 songs alone destroys Pavement's entire catalog.

those three songs aren't better than "loretta's scars," "unfair," "here," "stop breathin'," or "gold soundz"

TS: smugness vs megalomania

― gallagher 3 (latebloomer), Wednesday, February 9, 2011 7:09 PM (Yesterday)

indie autism vs. megalomania

of course john lennon is going to have a fondness for 1979

I thought this was a good question because of

*Their stupid childish feud that really seems to only entail Corgan whining and Malkmus just kinda laughing back at him and sorta not taking it seriously..
*I honestly don't know which of these 2 bands I like better. In my brain they seem pretty equal right now.
*Chronologically they pretty much covered almost exactly the same span of years and what seems to be a fairly equal output of music.
*Range Life
*I was hoping something like what took place mid-thread would happen.

lmao buzza

Who should I vote for?

whatever i wont

those three songs aren't better than "loretta's scars," "unfair," "here," "stop breathin'," or "gold soundz"

― reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, February 10, 2011 10:40 PM (23 minutes ago) Bookmark

Oh hell yeah they are.

Loretta's Scars is really good.

Those 3 songs are miles above Pavements catalog...holy shit. The closest Pavement ever got to being good was Stop Breathing, which is a well-written song that the band still couldn't pull off. Why were they so goddamned lazy?

(Corgan, otoh, obviously tried too hard.)