TS: Pavement / Smashing Pumpkins

oh wow so they do.

sorry the only ones I've ever heard of were Vee Vee and Icky Mettle

damn, what happened to the bass player, she used to be cute, right?
http://www.tmz.com/2011/02/10/smashing-pumpkins-bassist-darcy-wretzky-jailed-arrested-horses-farm-michigan-ticket-failure-to-appear-bench-warrant/#comments-anchor

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I do think m@tt is right; at heart Pavement is bro music, and I think that a lot of the schmindie they ushered in is bro music too...which makes me wonder why I dislike it so much. I do know that most of the guys I would call 'bros' irl would much rather listen to Pumpkins then Anco or Pavement or Spoon or LCD or anything like that...

(hey Louis what about LCD?)

http://en.academic.ru/pictures/enwiki/68/Darcy002.jpg

(also, I wonder where D'Arcy lived in Michigan?)

Methsville

Heroin Twp

zing

oh man, an LCD S vs TOD poll would lead to real bloodshed, and I don't even like TOD *that* much

LCD S vs The Fall = use of the suggest ban function

yeah p much

sorry the only ones I've ever heard of were Vee Vee and Icky Mettle

― kkvbgz (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, February 10, 2011 1:53 PM (21 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i really love all the nation's airports (3rd studio) and the last studio (white trash heroes) is a p cool left-turn once you get used to it...

but man, if you don't have Vs. the Greatest of All Time and Speed of Cattle (2 ep comps) you are missing some classics of the early period!

(also, I wonder where D'Arcy lived in Michigan?)

Real answer: Watervliet

Don Van Watervliet

(That's what I used to think whenever I drove by that city on I-94.)

Watervliet is not that far from where I live...

(I've thought about the Van Watervliet thing too)

hell, 'That Sound Wiped' is a zillion times better at dancepop than anything J Murphy has done

ok I'll zip it

I read that as J. Mascis for a second there.

Oof! Darcy Wrecked-tzky

1979
Soma
Mayonaise

Any of these 3 songs alone destroys Pavement's entire catalog.

those three songs aren't better than "loretta's scars," "unfair," "here," "stop breathin'," or "gold soundz"

TS: smugness vs megalomania

― gallagher 3 (latebloomer), Wednesday, February 9, 2011 7:09 PM (Yesterday)

indie autism vs. megalomania

of course john lennon is going to have a fondness for 1979

I thought this was a good question because of

*Their stupid childish feud that really seems to only entail Corgan whining and Malkmus just kinda laughing back at him and sorta not taking it seriously..
*I honestly don't know which of these 2 bands I like better. In my brain they seem pretty equal right now.
*Chronologically they pretty much covered almost exactly the same span of years and what seems to be a fairly equal output of music.
*Range Life
*I was hoping something like what took place mid-thread would happen.

lmao buzza

Who should I vote for?

whatever i wont

those three songs aren't better than "loretta's scars," "unfair," "here," "stop breathin'," or "gold soundz"

― reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, February 10, 2011 10:40 PM (23 minutes ago) Bookmark

Oh hell yeah they are.

Loretta's Scars is really good.

Those 3 songs are miles above Pavements catalog...holy shit. The closest Pavement ever got to being good was Stop Breathing, which is a well-written song that the band still couldn't pull off. Why were they so goddamned lazy?

(Corgan, otoh, obviously tried too hard.)

Pumpkins had much lower lows and much higher highs.

Those 3 songs are miles above Pavements catalog...holy shit. The closest Pavement ever got to being good was Stop Breathing, which is a well-written song that the band still couldn't pull off. Why were they so goddamned lazy?

― Damo Suzuki's Dead Parrot (kkvgz), Friday, 11 February 2011 11:42 (30 minutes ago) Bookmark

ydgi

I don't want to have to.

I will admit, the only records I've heard by them are S&E and CR, CR, but they are both so annoying to listen to that I don't really feel like making an effort or expanding the breadth of my knowledge or anything.

boys are dying on these streets

I will admit, the only records I've heard by them are Gish and Siamese Dream, but they are both so annoying to listen to that I don't really feel like making an effort or expanding the breadth of my knowledge or anything.

(actually parts of gish are ok and wtf, "1979" is pretty undeniable)

yeah I dl'd 1979 yesterday after not having heard it in years and years (I have never been able to stomach the entirety of Colin Meloy and our Infinite Silliness) and that song is kind of both the peak and the end of SP.

I never saw Pavement live but I saw Smashing Pumpkins twice, on the Siamese Dream tour, both times disappointing because the band couldn't play together: Corgan keep speeding up the songs ahead of Chamberlain, or else Chamberlain played too slow; I dunno, but either way the songs sounded like a mess.

I voted for Smashing Pumpkins here because they're our generation's Boston.

xp with '33' being the zwan song

**BRINGING THREAD BACK FULL CIRCLE**:

Pavement "covered" 1979 at a couple shows iirc.

Man, our generation's Boston! Awesome.

Boston >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Smashing Pumpkings, c'mon now.

yeah, the dude in boston could really sing.

totally

hence "our generation's"

they both stink but pavement could take the pumpkins in a fight

Shasta OTM about Boston. I mean I guess they're similar as far as being the studio projects of megalomaniacs but yeah, the Boston dude has decent pipes.

Boston's riffs still deeply resonate 35 years later. Pumpkins? gtfo.