TS: Pavement / Smashing Pumpkins

(actually parts of gish are ok and wtf, "1979" is pretty undeniable)

yeah I dl'd 1979 yesterday after not having heard it in years and years (I have never been able to stomach the entirety of Colin Meloy and our Infinite Silliness) and that song is kind of both the peak and the end of SP.

I never saw Pavement live but I saw Smashing Pumpkins twice, on the Siamese Dream tour, both times disappointing because the band couldn't play together: Corgan keep speeding up the songs ahead of Chamberlain, or else Chamberlain played too slow; I dunno, but either way the songs sounded like a mess.

I voted for Smashing Pumpkins here because they're our generation's Boston.

xp with '33' being the zwan song

**BRINGING THREAD BACK FULL CIRCLE**:

Pavement "covered" 1979 at a couple shows iirc.

Man, our generation's Boston! Awesome.

Boston >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Smashing Pumpkings, c'mon now.

yeah, the dude in boston could really sing.

totally

hence "our generation's"

they both stink but pavement could take the pumpkins in a fight

Shasta OTM about Boston. I mean I guess they're similar as far as being the studio projects of megalomaniacs but yeah, the Boston dude has decent pipes.

Boston's riffs still deeply resonate 35 years later. Pumpkins? gtfo.

MARK MY WORDS

35 years after Gish or Siamese Dream, nobody but a cult niche of awkward dudes will even care... unlike the legions of rockers still ever-faithful to MORE THAN A FEELING to this very day.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SSR6ZzjDZ94

Lol awkward dudes, kill EM all

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eR9aRK2HdNc

Steve heeds the urgency of now.

pavement could take the pumpkins in a fight

this depends on whether gary young is included imo

Bob could be pretty aggressive I bet.

Both bands are way better than fucking Boston.

I have horrible songs from "Third Stage" stuck in my head now..

I'd just like to say fuck this thread for all of you saying "oh i remember "Today" from when I was a kid" THANK YOU FOR MAKNG ME FEEL OLD.

I saw both bands in the early 90 in a little pub before either got famebloated. They were good then. Then they sucked. Its kind of a tie.

I wouldn't suprised if Malkmus was a sincere Pumpkins fan. His lines about them in "Range Life" could be read as ambigously complimentary.

i envision spiral and d'arcy in a slap fight, iha pretending he knows karate before nastanovich kicks his ass, ibold and westie staring at the sky, corgan and malkmus battling with epees and malkmus slowly cutting him up like indigo montoya did to christopher guest.

but jimmy chamberlin and gary young are just mauling each other mma stylee until everyone else turns away in disgust at the carnage.

gish is awesome, an all time psych rock jam, and there are good songs after that, but come on, this isn't fair. malkmus solo >>>>> smashing pumpkins

I always had this pet hypothesis that SP fans were just big romantics in one sense of the word or another. For ppl with heavy feelings! For ppl who like dragons, you know?

I got into SP because they really touched an emotional nerve with me at age 15 + I liked that there was a lot of makeup in their videos. Pavement I got into bcz my friends and I saw them play on 120 Minutes (iirc) and we thought Bob Nastonovich had to be the developmentally delayed brother of one of the four other guys on the screen.

I no longer think that btw, Bob seems like a sharp dude in interviews.

I took a side.

I sure hope ilx doesn't disappoint here

can't see how pavement could possibly lose, given they made the obvious best song of the decade "gold soundz"

Slanted & Enchanted; Crooked Rain, Crooked Rain; Wowee Zowee, Terror Twilight

vs.

Siamese Dream

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"I've got style, miles and miles, so much style that it's wasted"

vs.

"Despite all my rage, I am still just a rat in a cage"

the obvious best song of the decade "gold soundz"

oh my

"go back to those gold sounds/and keep your ice cream to yourself/cause it's central/not essential/and we're comin to the chorus now"

I wonder if the same people who like Pavement also like Kesha too

I like all three.

85% of ppl who vote Pavement here think that In Rainbows is Radiohead's best album...

the obvious best song of the decade "gold soundz"

oh my

― van smack, Sunday, February 20, 2011 6:06 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark

85% of ppl who vote Pavement here think that In Rainbows is Radiohead's best album...

― kingkongvsbasedgodzilla (Drugs A. Money), Sunday, February 20, 2011 12:44 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark

not getting thoust joke? pavement appeals to me on the basis's of it's occasional brutality, it's sawing guitars, it's peculiar riffs/melodies and of all, malkmus's mere existence. i think "my bloody valentine >" every time i listen to a smashing pumpkins... it's overkill of the simplicity mbv achieved with that crushing guitar sound. but anyways, what i'm getting to is that the bends is my favvie radiohead album. i tried making all the aforementioned relevant... i tried :(

Don't stress it kelp; just tryin to gather all my pet peeves into one post. I spent an hour working out how I could shoehorn a mention of the governor of WI in there, but to no avail...

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

the obvious best song of the decade "gold soundz"

oh my

― van smack, Sunday, February 20, 2011 6:06 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark

think ilxor was tryna be meta-snarky here [via sarcastic pitchfork ref]

― on some outer space shit (bernard snowy), Sunday, February 20, 2011 11:46 AM (4 hours ago)

I had no idea that p4k named that the best song of the decade. I just looked that up. Oh my *massive facepalm*

yeah

best music poll result of the 2010s imo

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

Almost exactly 2:1! Pretty much how I figured.

http://img.search.com/thumb/9/93/ElectoralCollege1936-Large.png/400px-ElectoralCollege1936-Large.png

I quit

Whole bunch of wankers.

oh no this is not what i expected at all :(