jon and Geir are experiencing what may be the platonic ideal of First World Problems
― DJP, Monday, 14 February 2011 15:59 (thirteen years ago) link
Yeah, I guess I'm just a big old douchey dinosaur for feeling like I do.
― one pretty obvious guy in the obvious (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 14 February 2011 15:59 (thirteen years ago) link
Just about the download, it looks like you need to be able to unzip the files once you get them. Cos I don't generally download stuff (other than from iTunes, Amazon and eMusic), I never got round to buying an application to extract files. The King of Limbs site links the user to Winzip, so if I were to follow their advice, then this whole thing is going to cost me £32. Thanks guys!
― seminal fuiud (NickB), Monday, 14 February 2011 16:00 (thirteen years ago) link
what typeface are we talking about here?
http://cdn.sandbag.uk.com/RV/c/TKOLPackshot.jpg
― seminal fuiud (NickB), Monday, 14 February 2011 16:01 (thirteen years ago) link
oh!
― got electrolytes (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 14 February 2011 16:02 (thirteen years ago) link
winzip is free to all intents and purposes. 7zip is really and totally free: http://www.7-zip.org/
― ledge, Monday, 14 February 2011 16:02 (thirteen years ago) link
if you preorder the 'newspaper' edition you'd have to wait a month longer than the people picking up the regular CD/LP. the leak is on saturday, the physical release a month later, the deluxe release a month later than that.
― matt h, Monday, 14 February 2011 16:02 (thirteen years ago) link
I mean, I want a physical CD without 625 choking hazards as well, which is why I am either going to wait for the physical release or buy the mp3s and pick up the album later if I like it enough
(which reminds me, I still need to pick up physical copies of Heligoland and Heartland)
xp: most modern operating systems open .zip files natively now; they are treated just like regular folders
― DJP, Monday, 14 February 2011 16:02 (thirteen years ago) link
Thanks ledge. Why aren't the Radiohead sending people there instead? xxp
― seminal fuiud (NickB), Monday, 14 February 2011 16:03 (thirteen years ago) link
xxxp: what OS are you on? windows has native support for unzipping zip files, at least since XP if not older versions
― ciderpress, Monday, 14 February 2011 16:04 (thirteen years ago) link
and winzip is 'shareware' or whatever, it asks you to buy it but it never actually disables any features after the 30 days are up iirc
― ciderpress, Monday, 14 February 2011 16:06 (thirteen years ago) link
I got xp, so it may or may not work I guess. Hasn't worked in the past, but I'll figure it out somehow...
― seminal fuiud (NickB), Monday, 14 February 2011 16:08 (thirteen years ago) link
well 7-zip should work regardless, so you're all set
― ciderpress, Monday, 14 February 2011 16:09 (thirteen years ago) link
FYI as of version 10 they changed this so that after 30 days you had to buy it; I don't know if they changed it back with subsequent versions
― DJP, Monday, 14 February 2011 16:10 (thirteen years ago) link
does the program actually have features that are worth $ in any sense?
― iatee, Monday, 14 February 2011 16:11 (thirteen years ago) link
or are they just relying on people who get confused w/ zip files
winRAR is free and can open .rar and .zip iirc
― bows don't kill people, arrows do (Jordan), Monday, 14 February 2011 16:12 (thirteen years ago) link
No, not in a world where 7zip exists (xp)
― DJP, Monday, 14 February 2011 16:13 (thirteen years ago) link
not really, it was the first decent zip/unzip program for windows and has been around for ages and ages, so it's used purely on name recognition now that there are good free alternatives
― ciderpress, Monday, 14 February 2011 16:13 (thirteen years ago) link
Yeah, winRAR is the champ for all time.
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 14 February 2011 16:17 (thirteen years ago) link
btw can I just say lol @ all of us for the turn this conversation has taken
― DJP, Monday, 14 February 2011 16:18 (thirteen years ago) link
This is the stuff that Thom Yorke doesn't want you to know.
― seminal fuiud (NickB), Monday, 14 February 2011 16:20 (thirteen years ago) link
this is a good time to ask the question "what is the difference between zip files and rar files?"
― iatee, Monday, 14 February 2011 16:21 (thirteen years ago) link
QFT; it really doesn't get better than WinRAR.
― frogbs, Monday, 14 February 2011 16:21 (thirteen years ago) link
it's a different encoding algorithm; IIRC RAR files are supposed to be smaller on average
― DJP, Monday, 14 February 2011 16:22 (thirteen years ago) link
pretty sure rar compression creates smaller archive files?
xp
― bows don't kill people, arrows do (Jordan), Monday, 14 February 2011 16:22 (thirteen years ago) link
so why would anyone ever use a zip file?
― iatee, Monday, 14 February 2011 16:22 (thirteen years ago) link
Rar compresses more than zip, I think the compression algorithm is just more complex or something
― frogbs, Monday, 14 February 2011 16:23 (thirteen years ago) link
Hey guys, I wonder what this album will SOUND like?!
― dentarthurdent (dog latin), Monday, 14 February 2011 16:23 (thirteen years ago) link
I think zip files are still used because WinZip doesn't do rars or something, I guess it's kind of the same reason why mp3 is still used even if other formats are technically 'better'
because rar sometimes confuses people and zip is better known/maybe more universal?
― bows don't kill people, arrows do (Jordan), Monday, 14 February 2011 16:24 (thirteen years ago) link
so why would anyone ever use a zip file?― iatee, Monday, February 14, 2011 11:22 AM (45 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
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― ciderpress, Monday, 14 February 2011 16:24 (thirteen years ago) link
zip is open format, rar is proprietory.
― ledge, Monday, 14 February 2011 16:24 (thirteen years ago) link
Thought that 'waiting' artwork is more Meat Puppets circa 1985
― philippe is standing on it (MaresNest), Monday, 14 February 2011 16:25 (thirteen years ago) link
I have learned so much this morning, thank you
― iatee, Monday, 14 February 2011 16:25 (thirteen years ago) link
man i wonder how many mbs the compressed archive of this album is going to be!
― bows don't kill people, arrows do (Jordan), Monday, 14 February 2011 16:25 (thirteen years ago) link
c'mon we can get five days more compression software discussion out of this before the album arrives.
― ledge, Monday, 14 February 2011 16:25 (thirteen years ago) link
radiohead's decision to make this a zip file now infuriates me btw
― iatee, Monday, 14 February 2011 16:26 (thirteen years ago) link
Well it's also easier to figure out what to do with a file ending in ".zip" ("hmm, maybe I need to... unzip it?") than what to do with a file ending in ".rar" ("I spent 10 minutes roaring into the microphone and I still can't get to my mp3s ;_;")
― DJP, Monday, 14 February 2011 16:26 (thirteen years ago) link
Please note that compression software data for the entire discography is also included. This was the only data made available with the application, and in order to accurately estimate and verify hearing results, individual album compression data will need to be obtained from the band.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 14 February 2011 16:26 (thirteen years ago) link
I don't even think Factory released a file compression program under a cat number.
― dentarthurdent (dog latin), Monday, 14 February 2011 16:27 (thirteen years ago) link
Jordan - I would guess about 82 mbs compressed. I would guess they would use 320 kbps MP3s after the shitstorm that occured after In Rainbows was released as a 160 kbps MP3 (really a dumb decision, but whatever), I still think they probably have no idea what VBR is so I doubt they'd use it. I think 320 is like 2 mb = 1 minute, and my guess is this album will be 52 minutes long, so 104 mb compressed which should be like 82, but my math might be totally off.
― frogbs, Monday, 14 February 2011 16:28 (thirteen years ago) link
104 mb compressed which should be like 82
That would be SERIOUSLY compressed. I'd guess that 104mb worth of data compressed by standard rar settings would result in something around 96-98mb.
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 14 February 2011 16:29 (thirteen years ago) link
compression of an already compressed mp3 will be more like 1%.
― ledge, Monday, 14 February 2011 16:30 (thirteen years ago) link
Yeah I guess you're probably right...so my guess would be 98 then. I don't really pay attention to compressed file sizes anymore since we live in a world of terabyte hard drives but it doesn't surprise me that I got it totally wrong.
― frogbs, Monday, 14 February 2011 16:36 (thirteen years ago) link
i like to sidechain compress my files to the kick drum
― bows don't kill people, arrows do (Jordan), Monday, 14 February 2011 16:41 (thirteen years ago) link
zip feels like a nut, rar doesn't
― aerosmith: the acid house years (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Monday, 14 February 2011 16:46 (thirteen years ago) link
I guess I'm always hoping that they won't sound grimBut it's my destiny to buy The King of Limbs
― buzza, Monday, 14 February 2011 16:47 (thirteen years ago) link
So, about the music...
I'm excited to see a tracklist. There have been a couple of new songs that Thom played over the last year (titles escape me right now) that didn't impress me at the time, but then again, I wasn't that impressed by "house of cards" when it was first played, and that ended up being one of my favorite songs on In Rainbows.
― fffffffffffuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu (Z S), Monday, 14 February 2011 16:51 (thirteen years ago) link
There were a few songs on Jonny's Norweigian Wood soundtrack that I thought could have been transformed into really cool rh songs.
― fffffffffffuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu (Z S), Monday, 14 February 2011 16:53 (thirteen years ago) link