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― Susan Douglas (Susan Douglas), Tuesday, 7 March 2006 20:49 (eighteen years ago) link
― Susan Douglas (Susan Douglas), Tuesday, 7 March 2006 20:58 (eighteen years ago) link
It certainly flows as a proper "album" experience to me also (which was why it seemed so wrong and less impressive when i accidentally listened out of sequence!)
― fandango (fandango), Tuesday, 7 March 2006 21:06 (eighteen years ago) link
― Susan Douglas (Susan Douglas), Tuesday, 7 March 2006 21:15 (eighteen years ago) link
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― a, Thursday, 9 March 2006 14:00 (eighteen years ago) link
http://www.discogs.com/release/635613
― lf (lfam), Friday, 10 March 2006 00:57 (eighteen years ago) link
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― retrogurl, Friday, 10 March 2006 05:33 (eighteen years ago) link
also, is minimal techno the new post-rock?
― vahid (vahid), Friday, 10 March 2006 06:31 (eighteen years ago) link
what does that mean? without explaining the question, it just sounds like "is minimal techno actually a bunch of boring and pretentious shit that's tricked us into liking it?"
with that said, i sort of liked what i heard of the autechre tortoise remixes (although i only have them in memory), and i see the similarities, but i think achso has so much more to reveal. all of the tortoise remixes i heard (by anybody) always seemed flat, like they weren't holding anything back, everything laid out for you to see and not really being a very interesting scene. i always liked the original tortoise versions better.
― lf (lfam), Friday, 10 March 2006 06:41 (eighteen years ago) link
and i don't mean to bring this up as a sociological attack on the listenership or anything, because after awhile, i started to agree with the author. in fact, to this day, i would say "confield" is probably the last great post-rock album. pretty much every track on confield deploys one or more postrock strategies. i don't have the presence of mind to list these out, i may or may not at some time, but i really really think that EP7 and confield are more or less working in post-rock idiom and exploring post-rock structures and tricks.
now, i am just struck by the similarity in sound between recent villalobos and that era of autechre's work, and also by the similarity in mood and artwork and song title and so on between lots of late postrock and the current minimal techno crop (i guess you could even draw parallels like villalobos camp = chicago, kompakt = sigur ros, etc) and i'm just wondering if we could brainstorm on this a bit.
― vahid (vahid), Friday, 10 March 2006 07:10 (eighteen years ago) link
i definitely agree with the villalobos - chicago comparison, though. they are using very similar strategies, and their aesthetics are also similar in sounding both improvisational and structural. i like them both for that reason.
i have to go to bed because i'm too tired to think anymore.
― lf (lfam), Friday, 10 March 2006 07:47 (eighteen years ago) link
― fandango (fandango), Friday, 10 March 2006 15:51 (eighteen years ago) link
Whoa -- I just went to Bleep to grab EP7 and they're selling Achso now! In 320kbps mp3s, no less. For anyone who wants a legit non-vinyl copy, this is pretty reasonable..
― mike h. (mike h.), Friday, 10 March 2006 16:08 (eighteen years ago) link
― jackl (jackl), Friday, 10 March 2006 16:11 (eighteen years ago) link
or is minimal techno?
one does not equal the other.
― Ronan (Ronan), Friday, 10 March 2006 21:18 (eighteen years ago) link
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― Ronan (Ronan), Friday, 10 March 2006 21:27 (eighteen years ago) link
― mike h. (mike h.), Friday, 10 March 2006 21:32 (eighteen years ago) link
― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Friday, 10 March 2006 21:33 (eighteen years ago) link
I have no doubt loads of people really like villalobos, people who like minimal techno and people who post here etc. I just meet so many people who say "yeah villalobos" and I doubt they have ever heard him, I realise this is cynical but it'd be fine if people say this about m.a.n.d.y. or mayer cos essentially it's house/techno but villalobos doesn't really fit the crossover mould......
― Ronan (Ronan), Friday, 10 March 2006 21:42 (eighteen years ago) link
I have no doubt loads of people really like villalobos
okay whatever
― lf (lfam), Friday, 10 March 2006 22:03 (eighteen years ago) link
― lf (lfam), Friday, 10 March 2006 22:18 (eighteen years ago) link
This isn't incompatible with the notion that a lot of people listen to Villalobos privately, but that distinguishes him from a lot of other dance music producers, who are probably "listened to" more by people out dancing or downloading DJ sets than by people buying or downloading specific 12 inch tracks.
As I suggested upthread, I hear a lot of references to villalobos which strike me as using him as a stand-in for the notion of creativity in dance music, far over and above artists like booka shade or dominik eulberg or anyone else who is undoubtedly more ubiiquitous on dancefloors.
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