In 2006, when you hear cheerleader-style shout vocals, are they immediate and relevant? Do you take them and enjoy them for what they are with no added weight from musical or cultural history? Or, do you understand them through a lens that creates a distancing effect, as in "oh isn't it funny that pop music sounded like this once and now someone is doing it again." Irony is the gap between apparent meaning and intended meaning. Am I intended to take the Pipettes at face value? Of course not. Their music and image are intended to conjure up all kinds of associations to the past, and lead me to eventually agree that they are just so cute.
― Sean Braud1s (Sean Braudis), Friday, 28 July 2006 10:36 (seventeen years ago) link
― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Friday, 28 July 2006 10:48 (seventeen years ago) link
I don't understand what you mean by "immediate." What is something in pop music now that is immediate in a way the Pipettes are not? It is of no concern to me whether those vocals are *relevant*.
Do you take them and enjoy them for what they are with no added weight from musical or cultural history?
Of course not, but the same could be said for any specific style-connoting element in any contemporary cultural object. Am I supposed to find them all ironic? They seem to be more standard course now.
Or, do you understand them through a lens that creates a distancing effect, as in "oh isn't it funny that pop music sounded like this once and now someone is doing it again."
That's the thing - I don't find it funny. Was it funny when Tracey Ullman did it? I suppose the Pipettes are a little more goofy, but I don't see as that this makes them ironic. My response to them is not, "Oh, that's ironic that they are doing something with a little sort of '60s girl group style. Who would have imagined?"
― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Friday, 28 July 2006 17:12 (seventeen years ago) link
I would dispute that. There are surely plenty of things with gaps between apparent and intended meaning that one would not identify as "ironic."
― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Friday, 28 July 2006 17:14 (seventeen years ago) link
When I see/hear a longhaired pretty boy hammer a distorted guitar, I automatically think, "This music and image are intended to conjure up all kinds of associations to the past, and lead me to eventually agree that he is just so cool." Right?
'Cuz all musical choices must be read as meta-recursive signifiers pointing to the fact that they're pointing while also pointing to other things. Right?
God, that's exhausting...
― fuckfuckingfuckedfucker (fuckfuckingfuckedfucker), Friday, 28 July 2006 17:20 (seventeen years ago) link
Ba-dump-bump.
How come no one's laughing?
― fuckfuckingfuckedfucker (fuckfuckingfuckedfucker), Friday, 28 July 2006 17:30 (seventeen years ago) link
― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Friday, 28 July 2006 17:34 (seventeen years ago) link
Retro/gimmick/kitsch novelty or no, their version of "Wuthering Heights" just gave me the biggest smile I've had in days.
― Daniel Peterson (polkaholic), Friday, 28 July 2006 17:34 (seventeen years ago) link
We can only wish the Pipettes had a "They Don't Know" on this album. There's an example of a girl group pastiche that actually works.
Re "Pull Shapes" - I think the "I like to disco/to rock & roll/to hip hop" is a key to what I don't like about this album. It's way too Spice Girls/"Wannabe." It's like they're trying their hardest to get everyone up and dancing, but everyone's just staring blankly.
― mike a (mike a), Friday, 28 July 2006 18:53 (seventeen years ago) link
― tom west (thomp), Friday, 28 July 2006 20:08 (seventeen years ago) link
― kevin barking (arghargh), Friday, 28 July 2006 20:22 (seventeen years ago) link
― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Friday, 28 July 2006 20:24 (seventeen years ago) link
― kevin barking (arghargh), Friday, 28 July 2006 20:29 (seventeen years ago) link
I'm just saying that it's an approach that doesn't suit this particular project.
― mike a (mike a), Friday, 28 July 2006 20:31 (seventeen years ago) link
― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Friday, 28 July 2006 20:33 (seventeen years ago) link
2 brilliant songs (pull shapes and judy). but the rest range from good to blatant filler.
― Aditya (dan138zig), Sunday, 30 July 2006 14:46 (seventeen years ago) link
― uptoeleven (uptoeleven), Tuesday, 8 August 2006 09:02 (seventeen years ago) link
Everyone who has reviewed the Pipettes album, yesterday.
― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 8 August 2006 09:14 (seventeen years ago) link
― Konal Doddz (blueski), Tuesday, 8 August 2006 09:16 (seventeen years ago) link
― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 8 August 2006 09:25 (seventeen years ago) link
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zihW7WCYMs
― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 8 August 2006 09:26 (seventeen years ago) link
― Bashment Jakes (Enrique), Tuesday, 8 August 2006 09:27 (seventeen years ago) link
― Konal Doddz (blueski), Tuesday, 8 August 2006 09:27 (seventeen years ago) link
― Bashment Jakes (Enrique), Tuesday, 8 August 2006 09:31 (seventeen years ago) link
― Konal Doddz (blueski), Tuesday, 8 August 2006 09:33 (seventeen years ago) link
― Bashment Jakes (Enrique), Tuesday, 8 August 2006 09:35 (seventeen years ago) link
― Konal Doddz (blueski), Tuesday, 8 August 2006 09:47 (seventeen years ago) link
― Konal Doddz (blueski), Thursday, 14 September 2006 11:17 (seventeen years ago) link
― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Thursday, 14 September 2006 11:20 (seventeen years ago) link
― Rowlando for the kidz (Sam Rowlands), Thursday, 14 September 2006 11:26 (seventeen years ago) link
― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Thursday, 14 September 2006 11:29 (seventeen years ago) link
― electric sound of jim [and why not] (electricsound), Thursday, 14 September 2006 11:31 (seventeen years ago) link
― Obvious Ninja (Haberdager), Thursday, 14 September 2006 11:32 (seventeen years ago) link
― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Thursday, 14 September 2006 11:38 (seventeen years ago) link
― Obvious Ninja (Haberdager), Thursday, 14 September 2006 11:42 (seventeen years ago) link
― NickB (NickB), Thursday, 14 September 2006 11:50 (seventeen years ago) link
― Rowlando for the kidz (Sam Rowlands), Thursday, 14 September 2006 12:05 (seventeen years ago) link
― tom west (thomp), Thursday, 14 September 2006 13:03 (seventeen years ago) link
― tom west (thomp), Thursday, 14 September 2006 13:04 (seventeen years ago) link
what you or i might call an "autobiography".
― a rapper singing about hos and bitches and money (Enrique), Thursday, 14 September 2006 13:11 (seventeen years ago) link
― Obvious Ninja (Haberdager), Thursday, 14 September 2006 13:24 (seventeen years ago) link
-- Rowlando for the kidz (samonkeyuk...), September 14th, 2006.
What songs have the name Rowlando in them?!
― Rombald (rombald), Thursday, 14 September 2006 13:25 (seventeen years ago) link
― mister the guanoman (mister the guanoman), Thursday, 14 September 2006 13:47 (seventeen years ago) link
it was pretty good as a review of their website. didn't see much in it about the music. maybe he thinks the website is more important, which could be true, i don't know since i haven't looked at the website. none of which dislodges "pull shapes" from my singles-of-the-year list.
― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Thursday, 14 September 2006 14:19 (seventeen years ago) link
― electric sound of jim [and why not] (electricsound), Saturday, 16 September 2006 00:21 (seventeen years ago) link
― keyth (keyth), Saturday, 16 September 2006 00:34 (seventeen years ago) link
I like "Simon Says" though. A B-side somewhere, I only have it on mp3.
― Colonel Poo (Colonel Poo), Saturday, 16 September 2006 01:10 (seventeen years ago) link
― Randall Weeber (yoyoweb), Saturday, 16 September 2006 01:16 (seventeen years ago) link
― Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Saturday, 16 September 2006 01:21 (seventeen years ago) link
― ()()()---()()() (internet), Saturday, 16 September 2006 02:33 (seventeen years ago) link