And the Ruts doing white reggae better? "Jah War" versus "The Guns of Brixton" or "One More Time"? Come on, there's no contest.
― Greg Ferguson, Tuesday, 20 March 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
― DG, Tuesday, 20 March 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
― Larms, Wednesday, 21 March 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 21 March 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
― Dr. C, Wednesday, 21 March 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
As for comments about Strummer's voice - who do you fuckin' want singing then? Neil Hannon? Mr. Belle and Sebastian? Kiri Te Kanawa?
Anyhow, yeah, what the hell? How can the existance of Rancid make the Clash's music good or bad? This gets perilously into the territory of a previous thread about holding the bands inspired by someone against the original band - an idea pretty much everyone disowned because it would mean every band ever would be labelled crap because someone out there who is talentless is inspired by them. It's unfair.
And Rancid aren't that bad - they could be, like, the Levellers.
― Ally, Wednesday, 21 March 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
Anyway, both the Clash and Rancid come across as patent bores who can't do anything interesting to save their lives. On that level they're equally culpable. ;-)
― Patrick, Wednesday, 21 March 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
Also a double lp was a bit of a bad idea, but a triple!?
― Nick Greenfield, Wednesday, 21 March 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
Tanya: Well, if you are such a fan of Marillion, then you should be happy that they have aged well and nobody has surpassed them in recent years and made them look bad! ;)
Oh yes, and you can chalk me up as one who thinks both the Pistols (all 1 albums of them) and the Clash are brilliant.
― Tim Baier, Wednesday, 21 March 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
― Sterling Clover, Wednesday, 21 March 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
― Charlie Frame, Wednesday, 21 March 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
― DG, Wednesday, 21 March 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
Therefore, the Smiths are the worst band of all time because Gene suck.
― Ally, Thursday, 22 March 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 22 March 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
Wire = Elastica = Crap. Madonna = Christina Aguilera = Crap. Clash = Rancid = Crap.
"we're middle class - yeah, yeah, yeah ----we come from public school - yeah, yeah, yeah" ;-)
"they told us to release complete control - so we DID!" x0x0
― norman fay, Thursday, 19 April 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
― Stevo, Wednesday, 6 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
― tarden, Wednesday, 6 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
x0x0
― Norman Fay, Thursday, 7 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― kenny shohan, Monday, 6 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― adaml (adaml), Sunday, 28 September 2003 22:47 (twenty years ago) link
― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Sunday, 28 September 2003 23:09 (twenty years ago) link
― Cacaman Flores, Sunday, 28 September 2003 23:18 (twenty years ago) link
I think I'd be fine with that, actually.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 28 September 2003 23:24 (twenty years ago) link
― adaml (adaml), Sunday, 28 September 2003 23:27 (twenty years ago) link
See, that sounds cool.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 28 September 2003 23:59 (twenty years ago) link
― adaml (adaml), Monday, 29 September 2003 00:19 (twenty years ago) link
― adaml (adaml), Monday, 29 September 2003 00:20 (twenty years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 29 September 2003 01:33 (twenty years ago) link
All those digs at the Clash: venomous hogwash. SCORIA. ALL OF IT!!!!!! TAKE IT BACK, SUCKAZ!
― Francis Watlington (Francis Watlington), Monday, 29 September 2003 03:08 (twenty years ago) link
I love them so much,always did and always will,fun and cool and smart
― Haikunym (Haikunym), Monday, 29 September 2003 04:10 (twenty years ago) link
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Monday, 29 September 2003 07:50 (twenty years ago) link
― Justyn Dillingham (Justyn Dillingham), Monday, 29 September 2003 08:02 (twenty years ago) link
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Monday, 29 September 2003 08:39 (twenty years ago) link
― Justyn Dillingham (Justyn Dillingham), Monday, 29 September 2003 09:52 (twenty years ago) link
I do prefer "London Calling", but their debut is also nice enough due to its great melodies and choruses.
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Monday, 29 September 2003 10:39 (twenty years ago) link
― dleone (dleone), Monday, 29 September 2003 11:00 (twenty years ago) link
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Monday, 29 September 2003 22:21 (twenty years ago) link
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Monday, 29 September 2003 22:22 (twenty years ago) link
― Francis Watlington (Francis Watlington), Tuesday, 30 September 2003 03:09 (twenty years ago) link
Yeah, this = true, but at the same time, if you think a band sucks (like the clash, who i still think are totally dud) and there are a load of shit bands who copy them, then you can't help but hate them all the more!
(gier - the buzzcocks and the stranglers wrote better tunes than the clash or the pistols, as you must surely know!)
NB if you are near a branch of hmv, you can get the ruts' "the crack" c/w loads of bonus cuts for 4.99
― Pashmina (Pashmina), Tuesday, 30 September 2003 22:00 (twenty years ago) link
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 30 September 2003 22:26 (twenty years ago) link
― Ben Dot, Tuesday, 30 September 2003 23:58 (twenty years ago) link
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Wednesday, 1 October 2003 13:24 (twenty years ago) link
― Dadaismus (Dada), Wednesday, 1 October 2003 13:26 (twenty years ago) link
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 1 October 2003 13:35 (twenty years ago) link
― .adam (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 22:16 (nineteen years ago) link
Two more "missing" tracks are "Do It Now" and "Sex Mad Roar" which are on cd in the singles box set, and nowhere else.
I know that's into "Clash II" territory, but as "Cut the Crap" is on cd, thought I'd mention.
Oh, and "Pouring Rain" on the Joe Strummer "The future is unwritten" but
― Mark G, Thursday, 5 August 2021 17:34 (two years ago) link
I actually like all the songs on the This Is England single. But I've still never listened to Cut The Crap.
― bovarism, Thursday, 5 August 2021 19:10 (two years ago) link
i never cared for english pop punk but dont rob the cash box and lydon calling are ok and didnt they do a rap song and a reggae song?!
― xzanfar, Thursday, 5 August 2021 22:36 (two years ago) link
This made me laugh:
"Mick Jones has joked that they were the kind of band that would record thirty songs and release thirty-one."
https://www.newyorker.com/culture/culture-desk/the-clash-think-inside-the-box+&cd=4&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us
― birdistheword, Tuesday, 10 August 2021 01:18 (two years ago) link
https://trouserpress.com/letsagetabitarockin/
― I, the Jukebox Jury (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 22 September 2021 14:09 (two years ago) link
That's incredible.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 22 September 2021 14:38 (two years ago) link
Cool. Haven't really read it myself yet /pvmic.
― I, the Jukebox Jury (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 22 September 2021 15:01 (two years ago) link
that looks amazing, thanks. just skimmed a bit for now.
― sleeve, Wednesday, 22 September 2021 22:54 (two years ago) link
yeah it's a great read.
― visiting, Wednesday, 22 September 2021 23:22 (two years ago) link
Bloody good, that. Seemed a little soft at first, but bears down more and more on particulars of the sound and how it got that way. I remember (in a Trouser Press ad) a 101ers LP or EP[, Elgin Avenue Breakdown w some of the songs mentioned here; an expanded reissue came out after Strummer died, but I never heard either version. Although I think there may have been excerpts in Julian Temple's good Strummer doc, The Future Is Unwritten.
― dow, Wednesday, 22 September 2021 23:39 (two years ago) link
yep it was released in 1981
https://www.discogs.com/The-101ers-Elgin-Avenue-Breakdown/master/193698
― sleeve, Thursday, 23 September 2021 00:36 (two years ago) link
Post today (Saturday) by Glen Matlock.
― birdistheword, Sunday, 4 September 2022 05:00 (one year ago) link
Cool!
― When Harpo Played His ARP (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 4 September 2022 05:08 (one year ago) link
Mick's been keeping a very low profile for quite a while now.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Sunday, 4 September 2022 05:16 (one year ago) link
?
― Vance Vance Devolution (sic), Sunday, 4 September 2022 05:52 (one year ago) link
Except for the Combat Rock reissue, I didn't think Mick had been very active, but apparently he's popped up in a few places in the past few years (recording with the Avalanches in 2020, the Flaming Lips in 2019, etc.) I think he just took a break after producing Kitty, Daisy & Lewis in 2014 - he did a ton of stuff in the first half of the '10s, so he probably needed it.
― birdistheword, Sunday, 4 September 2022 18:39 (one year ago) link
I just came across a book about The Clash in America that I hadn’t know about but feel like I will have to read right now.
― The Dark End of the Tweet (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 27 November 2022 00:24 (one year ago) link
What's the name?
I just learned that Elvis Costello's This Year's Model master tape had Costello and Mick Jones of The Clash playing tandem rhythm guitar on a coda to “Pump It Up,” that got edited out of the album release (but can now be be heard on Costello's Spanish Model version of the album with the guest vocalists ) and that Mick Jones played on the Costello song "Big Tears"
― curmudgeon, Sunday, 27 November 2022 05:09 (one year ago) link
I knew the latter fact but not the former.
― The Dark End of the Tweet (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 27 November 2022 05:10 (one year ago) link
Stealing All Transmissions: A Secret History of The Clash, by Randal Doane.
― The Dark End of the Tweet (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 27 November 2022 05:14 (one year ago) link
https://artsfuse.org/117329/fuse-book-review-stealing-all-transmissions-how-the-clash-conquered-america/
― The Dark End of the Tweet (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 27 November 2022 18:20 (one year ago) link
Thanks---btw did I mention my Voice coverage of The Sandinista! Project, archived here w link to more TSP comments on my Nashville Scene ballot: https://myvil.blogspot.com/2016/06/clash-stash-actually-cuts-crap.htmlAlso, did yall see this?
The new Joe Strummer boxset, Joe Strummer 002: The Mescaleros Years, will be released on September 16th, 2022, as part of the celebrations honouring Joe’s 70th birthday year. The first-ever comprehensive collection highlighting Joe’s work with his post-Clash band, The Mescaleros, the collection includes remastered editions of all three of the band’s studio albums, plus 15 rare and unreleased tracks spanning the first demos Joe wrote for the Mescaleros, and outtakes of several tracks of Joe’s final recordings with the band...
― dow, Sunday, 27 November 2022 20:03 (one year ago) link
Cool. That book starts off talking about this, of course:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PyuGLHnZhOI
― The Dark End of the Tweet (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 28 November 2022 02:38 (one year ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDDZgEHaczA
― Thus Sang Freud, Saturday, 12 August 2023 16:14 (nine months ago) link
toss up whether to put it here or on the kevin ayers thread.
― Thus Sang Freud, Saturday, 12 August 2023 16:16 (nine months ago) link
Wow, guess I have to click to see.
― No Zing Compares 2 HOOS (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 12 August 2023 16:21 (nine months ago) link
Viz. Costello thing: yes! That Spanish This Year Model is super great. You also get to hear how No Action and I Don't Want to Go to Chelsea were recorded basically as one track. I was fearful of that project but it's so good. Now if we could only get the real Rat Patrol (which I know we won't).
― three of the doctor's valuable bats are now dead (broom air), Sunday, 13 August 2023 23:35 (nine months ago) link