cant wait to hear the new version of 'deeper understanding'the original is soo cringeworthily awesome
― throwing darts and eating pizza behind impenetrable walls (diamonddave85), Friday, 11 March 2011 18:33 (thirteen years ago) link
editing myself, she's currently on Legacy records. Which strikes me as weird/unsurprising that some corporate schmuck from Sony would be getting paid $45/hour to take a picture of a film roll and overlay KB's name atop. What genius!!
― yeah (kelpolaris), Friday, 11 March 2011 18:42 (thirteen years ago) link
lolwut @ that "and so is love" cover
― lex pretend, Friday, 11 March 2011 18:43 (thirteen years ago) link
xxp surely it's the Sun orbiting Kate's face? Damn you and your warped heliocentric views!
― a murder rap to keep ya dancin, with a crime record like Keith Chegwin (snoball), Friday, 11 March 2011 18:46 (thirteen years ago) link
I've never liked any of her cover art
I love the cover of The Dreaming. Nothing wrong with Sensual World or Aerial either.
― something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Friday, 11 March 2011 19:45 (thirteen years ago) link
sensual world, dreaming, the kite version of the kick inside are all good. lionheart is good too in a cheesy 70's way.
― akm, Friday, 11 March 2011 19:47 (thirteen years ago) link
Nothing wrong, but nothing great. Faces. The album art seems more like a chronology of her hairstyles than, like her music, works of art.
Aerial was at least a departure, altho again, the text is shoddy and the whole thing looks like it literally took about 25minutes.
― yeah (kelpolaris), Friday, 11 March 2011 19:48 (thirteen years ago) link
just saying she deserves much better
― yeah (kelpolaris), Friday, 11 March 2011 19:51 (thirteen years ago) link
can't believe the Bush cover art is getting dissed. The Dreaming is a classic and the Hounds photo is brilliant too!
― piscesx, Friday, 11 March 2011 21:34 (thirteen years ago) link
The Sensual World The Red Shoes in particular would benefit from being re-recorded and re-arranged
FTFY. The ugly, hollow production on The Red Shoes really spoils the album for me.
are there any examples of an artist redoing their back catalogue that are actually significant improvements (i'm talking "omg this is great" rather than "this is just nice") on the originals?
Raw Power, though I know some will vehemently disagree.
I feel a thread coming on!
― Hideous Lump, Saturday, 12 March 2011 00:29 (thirteen years ago) link
http://www.vinylsearcher.com/largeImages/23570976.jpg
If you don't like the cover for Never for Ever, I don't understand you! Kate as a bat lady on the back cover is also awesome.
http://www.bloodsprayer.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/kate_bush_bat-wings.jpg
― Buff Orpington (Abbbottt), Saturday, 12 March 2011 01:05 (thirteen years ago) link
^ actually, that would be 2nd favorite behind Lionhearthttp://991.com/NewGallery/Kate-Bush-Lionheart-275771.jpgand Eat The Music is a cool departurehttp://rsindex.pictures-hosting.com/2009-12-02/000e8868_medium.jpeg
but for the rest of them, it's always just some facial of Kate w/ a different costume/hair-do. They capture her personality, sure, but they're so damn boringhttp://gaffa.org/sensual/p_ruth2.jpg
and really I'm arguing for little cause here... apart from that I desperately hope that the Director's Cut album's artwork is only a conceptual. Because it's the biggest snooze I've ever possibly seen.
― yeah (kelpolaris), Saturday, 12 March 2011 02:03 (thirteen years ago) link
i was going to post aerial to refute the original claim because i remembered it as being Cool but then i looked it up and saw the photoshop lens flare and sheepishly left the thread
― difficult listening hour, Saturday, 12 March 2011 02:34 (thirteen years ago) link
http://www.katebushnews.com/wp-content/uploads/directorscut2.jpg
― Mark G, Saturday, 12 March 2011 12:32 (thirteen years ago) link
and it's not like the stills within the film are any interesting. it's artwork from other albums.
bahhh whatever. guess i'll deal.
― yeah (kelpolaris), Saturday, 12 March 2011 18:13 (thirteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5UsjqXXcZ4
some of the old school fans are pretty pissed about this! lot of ranting about kate using a 'voice coder'. obviously not quite realising she's pretending to be a computer.
― reallysmoothmusic (Jamie_ATP), Monday, 4 April 2011 10:36 (thirteen years ago) link
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5100/5448294272_150c939581_m.jpg
― Mark G, Monday, 4 April 2011 10:52 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah not quite sure whats up with that
― reallysmoothmusic (Jamie_ATP), Monday, 4 April 2011 11:05 (thirteen years ago) link
oh sorry yes its her new vanity isn't it?
Director’s Cut will be released 16 May and will be available for pre-order from iTunes tomorrow. There has been a lot of speculation about the track list with many people trying to guess which tracks will feature on the album. Well, we can now confirm that the final track list is...
Flower of the Mountain (previously ‘The Sensual World’)
Song of Solomon
Deeper Understanding
Lily
Red Shoes
This Woman’s Work
Moments of Pleasure
Never Be Mine
Top of The City
And So Is Love
Director's Cut will be released on 16 May 2011 and will be available to pre-order from iTunes from tomorrow (5th April). Anyone who pre-orders from iTunes will instantly receive the full length version of "Deeper Understanding" as a thank you!
― Sittin' Fran (donna rouge), Monday, 4 April 2011 14:42 (thirteen years ago) link
this is weird haha
― diamonddave85, Monday, 4 April 2011 15:39 (thirteen years ago) link
these are all really undemanding songs in terms of vocals. gonna be a really mellow album, this.
― kelpolaris, Monday, 4 April 2011 15:46 (thirteen years ago) link
im really stoked to hear 'flower of the mountain' as 'the sensual world' is one of my favorites
― diamonddave85, Monday, 4 April 2011 15:50 (thirteen years ago) link
"Sensual World" could easily fit into her current style of singing. I got a lot of sense of it in Aerial's "Nocturn", in sense that they're both warm cooings atop plodding (but welcome!) beats.
this whole project rly confuses me tho. is it her attempt to modernize songs she found especially dated? "deeper understanding" upthread is a espcially bizarre take, almost more afitting to that brit spears song that did the same (can't think of the name??) with the max'd-out vocoder thing.
― kelpolaris, Monday, 4 April 2011 15:56 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah this whole project makes no sense to me, even hearing the reworked 'deeper understanding' didn't offer any clues.
my first thought is that she's finally jumped the shark but then again this is the same woman who gave us the stunning aerial after a 12 years absence
― diamonddave85, Monday, 4 April 2011 16:01 (thirteen years ago) link
Yeah really. I mean there are particular examples of bands covering their own songs that I've thought played out suprisingly well (thinking the excellent Yardbirds reconvening for "Birdland", when they were all in their 50's/60's/whatever) but w/ those the only difference was higher standards of production and just general abandon of the lo-fi thing that defined the 60s. It's true, KB does sound dated compared to modern female vocalists but the fact that she never really sound afitting to anything her generation produced at the same doesn't give this that same sort of bewilderment that one would attain from having a quissentially evocative group (of, for example, the 80s) like New Order come around and re-do all their songs.
KB seems to care enough about her reputation that I can't think she's doing this for a quick cash-grab but at the same she isn't really producing much new aside from what I assume is going to be a compilation of songs with deeper bass and some employment of newer technology. Which, again, is sorta like Britney Spears just releasing an album w/ a sound particular to whatever trends are going on at the moment (her latest it some weird dubsteb infusion)
― kelpolaris, Monday, 4 April 2011 16:32 (thirteen years ago) link
I really don't think she thinks of it in terms of career plan at all - the link between whatever she wants to do and the business side / celebrity cycle seems almost non existant
― reallysmoothmusic (Jamie_ATP), Monday, 4 April 2011 17:04 (thirteen years ago) link
the deeper understanding take is awful.
the songs from the red shoes are pretty much the songs on that album that I like, can't tell if that's good or bad; I was hoping she'd fix the songs I didn't like and make them better, but I don't really want to hear those ones futzed with. I assume she's stripping the trio bulgarka from all these takes which is unfortunate.
bah kate wtf are you doing
― akm, Monday, 4 April 2011 17:43 (thirteen years ago) link
I thought she made some seriously cheesy musical choices on Aerial so won't be surprised if she's become the Witchy Soccer Mom Of Music.
― Winky Dinky Dawgz (Capitaine Jay Vee), Monday, 4 April 2011 17:51 (thirteen years ago) link
PS Would still have her babies etc.etc.
― Winky Dinky Dawgz (Capitaine Jay Vee), Monday, 4 April 2011 17:54 (thirteen years ago) link
love kate but i can't find it in me to get remotely excited about re-released "reworkings" - by the same token though its existence doesn't mean she's jumped any shark. it's just a pointless between-albums exercise, probably cuz she's bored or it's in her contract or she wants some more money or to keep her name around.
― lex pretend, Monday, 4 April 2011 18:25 (thirteen years ago) link
i'm okay with her reworking red shoes tracks, but the production and performances on the sensual world were amazing and i'd be disappointed if she didn't agree. (i'd be fine if she publically disowned "reaching out," though.)
― butterfield earth (get bent), Monday, 4 April 2011 18:33 (thirteen years ago) link
Wow, this new Deeper Understanding is seriously, tragically bad. Sounds like a Cleopatra Records tribute album.
― the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Monday, 4 April 2011 19:31 (thirteen years ago) link
Although I do like how the end sounds like Laughing Stock-era Talk Talk.
― the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Monday, 4 April 2011 19:33 (thirteen years ago) link
Aw man, I can't like the "Deeper Understanding" mix — most of the Trio Bulgarka vocals are gone! The original mix also sounded a lot more spacious. This sounds like what it most likely is — a home studio recording.
― corey, Monday, 4 April 2011 19:47 (thirteen years ago) link
wasnt aerial recorded in her home studio as well?
― diamonddave85, Monday, 4 April 2011 20:28 (thirteen years ago) link
Uh, haven't all her albums since Hounds of Love been recorded there?
― Number None, Tuesday, 5 April 2011 01:41 (thirteen years ago) link
I think so, but none of them sound like home recordings (Aerial does a bit in some of the dated sounds she uses).
― corey, Tuesday, 5 April 2011 01:47 (thirteen years ago) link
The story on the retitling of "The Sensual World" as "Flower of the Mountain" is that on the original she had asked for and been refused permission to quote directly from James Joyce's Ulysses, but she asked again recently and this time they let her.
She could have used the Ralph Spoilsport mantra instead.[/firesign]
― Hideous Lump, Tuesday, 5 April 2011 04:06 (thirteen years ago) link
sadly, i fear kate is more interested in keeping the unwashed masses away from her beachfront 17-acre manse than in making music. she's fucking turned into the edge or something.
― butterfield earth (get bent), Tuesday, 5 April 2011 05:14 (thirteen years ago) link
Hey Now!! Getting a little carried away there, Kate will never be any member of U2. Everyone needs to breathe a little easier over this project.
― JacobSanders, Tuesday, 5 April 2011 05:17 (thirteen years ago) link
i'm just ribbing kate cuz i love her.
― butterfield earth (get bent), Tuesday, 5 April 2011 05:18 (thirteen years ago) link
I'm actually looking forward to hearing this, but I won't listen to any clips until I have the record in my hand. It might be a failure, but hearing her sing This Woman's Work again could never disappoint. I don't really question why she's doing this, just happy to hear her voice.
― JacobSanders, Tuesday, 5 April 2011 05:23 (thirteen years ago) link
i dont not dig this
― k3vin k., Tuesday, 5 April 2011 05:24 (thirteen years ago) link
She has identified the good tracks on The Red Shoes rather precisely. Also apart from leaving in Deeper Understanding and leaving out The Fog she's also chosen my favoruites from The Sensual World. Not sure what this means.
A comp of just the originals of these tracks would be an amazingly strong album, I reckon.
― Tim F, Tuesday, 5 April 2011 05:32 (thirteen years ago) link
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She's the only 'artist'/'famousperson' I've been in a studio with and prevented (we all were, it wasn't just me) from going anywhere near.
― Mark G, Tuesday, 5 April 2011 06:41 (thirteen years ago) link
Mark, why were you in a studio with Saint Kate? Any interesting tales about her working methods, juicy gossip etc?
― Cluster the boots (Billy Dods), Tuesday, 5 April 2011 13:00 (thirteen years ago) link
It was a TV studio, I was there as a member of a TV pop review panel.
She was being interviewed on-camera about 2 hours after we'd finished our pieces, but we had to stand 'over there' and go nowhere near the goddess either before or after her spot.
Sorry bout that, story got less interesting the longer I went on.
lol, as they say..
― Mark G, Tuesday, 5 April 2011 13:03 (thirteen years ago) link
After the slightly conservative production on Aerial, if she wants to go back and make The Sensual World and The Red Shoes more electronic, I'm not complaining.
― Naive Teen Idol, Wednesday, 6 April 2011 12:54 (thirteen years ago) link
Really not getting this after hearing Deeper Understanding. I thought the reworking would be more drastic - maybe a type of solo piano thing. The new version is very similar, just not as good.
― licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Wednesday, 6 April 2011 13:39 (thirteen years ago) link