Least convincing / most lol-worthy aspect of The Weeknd's quick rise to Internet fame

yeah im just sort of surprised, there are a lot of nyc hipsters with tons of money and an affection for "artisan"/"handmade"/"terroir" type-stuff that wine basically invented, youd think theyd be all over it. though here in new york it may just be that you cant make wine out of long island grapes in an old bushwick warehouse?

xxp

it seems to me that the recent explosion in craft brew stuff sorta took that space anyway

which maybe that was your point

My taste in alcohol is pretty butch tbh. If I had my way, I'd drink nothing but ale and scotch.

wine is a man's drink rev dont get it twisted

unless yr drinking like spritzers or bubbly or w/e

Haha, actually now that I think of it, bubbly is pretty much the only wine I can handle.

feel like wine education is still pretty inaccessible.

also wine comes in inconvenient formats and is hard to drink in hectic bars and stuff.

sry i called microbrews "shitty" that was disingenuous of me.

think the lack of wine is cos like.....does anyone get loaded up on wine when going out doing drugs or whatev? like you might drink wine at 7am on an all nighter for want of something else, or at dinner beforehand, but if it's long sessions then always gonna be beer or spirits, at least that's how it appeared IN MY DAY

Yes. Even in gay-hipster world - which for obv reasons should be even more intensely uniform - you get guys in wifebeaters + flannel shirts with fop-tops and five day growth hanging out with shiny-point-shoes bryl-creamed little princes hanging out with tanned tennis-ready preppy types and these are all clearly within the venn diagram "gay hipster" but on any other sensible reading ought to have nothing to do with one another.

― Tim F, Tuesday, 5 April 2011 00:49 (36 minutes ago) Bookmark

yeah it's like, how can you possibly generalise tracks that simultaneously feature grime whine, baltimore breaks, egregious r&b samples, chillwave synths and cowbell. there must be all manner of fascinating nuances at play.

LOL yes but I'm not saying there isn't some kind of underlying sensibility where all these things co-exist, or that the differences make any one of these aesthetic choices (let alone all of them) desirable. I just think the "they all sound the same" line is wrong.

But you know "it all sounds the same" is the one criticism I would not make of avant-frankenstep. The opposite is maybe the bigger problem.

think the lack of wine is cos like.....does anyone get loaded up on wine when going out doing drugs or whatev?

yes

10m xposts - i've always equated PBR here with Red Stripe in UK, mainly because that's everyone drank at gigs when I was a student.

There's a subset of professional/hipster cross types (e.g. lawyers I know who are into post-dubstep) who drink connoisseur wine but you need to have $$$. Actually these people would be well into the weeknd.

There's also a subset of students who drink goon (cheap wine from a box) but although these people aren't necessarily poor they're usually not hipsters.

I made the mistake of fucking around with box wine saturday night. :(

xpost possibly because being a wine connoisseur takes a shitload more time/money/attention-to-detail.

― Tim F, Tuesday, April 5, 2011 1:27 AM (8 hours ago) Bookmark

idk up to a point... it takes more attention to detail because unlike 'appreciating craft beers' wine connoisseurship is an actual thing

er...think craft beers is a thing...have you ever been to a craft beer shop? pretty sure there is a lot of knowledge there, the people that work in them are mega serious about it.

i know they are

re: pbr

4) as an added bonus it's a brand with a strong tradition that can be "reclaimed"

This is definitely a big part of it in my opinion, its not any good but it has a tradition - feel like there's more regional ones also - Iron City?

Rainier fits that niche around here, but Rainier is ghastly.

and yuengling, as mentioned upthread

rheingold tried to make a hipster comeback along these lines (somebody bought the brand, which had become defunct) but i don't think it really took

Yes but Yuengling is way more drinkable than pbr or iron city!

Sorry to derail, but I'm increasingly under the impression more people would give this act the time of day if it wasn't called The Weeknd.

My half-hearted reservations stem from two things:

1. There are already three bands called Weekend or The Weekend in my record collection
2. The swearing

PBR is not available to hipsters in Toronto. Traditionally, they drink Labatt 50, though IPAs are coming back into style.

Yes but Yuengling is way more drinkable than pbr or iron city!

agreed

http://parallax-view.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/weekend.jpg

It breaks my heart that there are a load of people with valuable perspectives on alcohol that are avoiding this thread because they think it's just a load of critics shouting at one another.

so what I've learned from this thread is that ppl like drinking more than the weeknd

drinking is the weekend

The red wine-drinking hipster is totally a thing by the way.

a hipster's just a drunk friend you haven't met

if you want to use the word "hipster" as basically a synonym for "snob", I think u will quickly discover that there is a nearly infinite variety of hipsters

mustard hipster

I just wanted to point out that the intersection between "hipster" and "classical musician" is packed full of wine drinkers, especially amongst the women. Also mad gin and whiskey drinks.

well you'd need to be a bit mad to make a drink with gin and whiskey..

haha

think the lack of wine is cos like.....does anyone get loaded up on wine when going out doing drugs or whatev?

yes

― lex pretend, Tuesday, April 5, 2011 2:11 AM (6 hours ago)

waht

Mixin' up a little Bombay Sapphire and Johnny Walker Black.

I have no idea who Weeknd are, but I love this thread. I noticed in Oklahoma all hipsters drink PBR or craft beers. And recently in Austin I was surprised at how many people were drinking PBR. I mostly drink wine or whiskey or Scotch.

i still suspect that craft beers are a bigger thing amongst ppl who also happen to drain PBR cans in the states & maybe its a midwest thing

what does gbx's gf drink??

i have all the time in the world for craft beers

wtf is a craft beer

I have no idea but I'd definitely be into one

i went to trader joe's yesterday and got a sixer of name tag (pretty sure this is worse than PBR) and some cheap white wine that looked decent

am i a hipster / should i listen to the weeknd while i drink this shit

right now i'm massively into asahi. love how dry it is + they have in on tap in loads of places in london now

best derailed thread ever!

my dad got me a brewing kit for xmas. i haven't broken it out but i should during this snow week, cause it's as good a time as any.

was just thinking, what a top quality derail, so glad the end of the thread isn't about artist y is shit cos fan x etc.

could bump the other thread but I feel like this is a better place for this HIGH PRAISE from a press release:

"2015 has been a breakout year for THE WEEKND, he is just the third artist to have two songs in the Top 10 of the Hot 100 simultaneously in 2015, and the first male. Only Taylor Swift and Meghan Trainor have previously held that honor this year."