According to the official Gene bio and all his friends it's pretty much the case.
― dan selzer, Tuesday, 5 April 2011 12:41 (thirteen years ago) link
let's not drag tom petty's name through the mud here, people! i mean, it was a cool thing for him to do, he didn't know it'd be the nail in gene's coffin!
― tylerw, Tuesday, 5 April 2011 16:35 (thirteen years ago) link
let's not drag tom petty's name through the mud here, people!new board decrip?
― tylerw, Tuesday, 5 April 2011 16:36 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah there's some serious misplaced judgment there in blaming Tom for covering a guy's song, which ended up getting him a bunch of money, which he decided to use to kill himself with drink. It's not like Tom Petty tied him up and forced him to down endless bottles of gin at the barrel of a gun.
― in my world of loose geirs (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 5 April 2011 16:44 (thirteen years ago) link
Nobody's actually blaming Tom Petty.
― dan selzer, Tuesday, 5 April 2011 16:49 (thirteen years ago) link
no, we might be on to something -- "feel a whole lot better when you're gonnnne -- after i kill you," petty sings on his cover.
― tylerw, Tuesday, 5 April 2011 16:59 (thirteen years ago) link
lol
― in my world of loose geirs (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 5 April 2011 17:00 (thirteen years ago) link
if that's not a confession, i don't know what is.
― tylerw, Tuesday, 5 April 2011 17:02 (thirteen years ago) link
Tom was going to cover one McGuinn and Crosby's classics, like Don't Make Waves, but they were like "c'mon Tom, why don't you do this shitty Gene Clark song, it'll make him tons of money and he'll spend it on cocaine and heroin, which he'll pile up on the backside of this glove compartment and snort from, one, then the other, and back again (true story) then he'll die and we can take all the credit for The Byrds"
― dan selzer, Tuesday, 5 April 2011 17:06 (thirteen years ago) link
and tom was like "I'm in. Let's do this."
― tylerw, Tuesday, 5 April 2011 17:08 (thirteen years ago) link
i also heard tom cut a version of "time between" but chris hillman begged him not to release it, for fear of his life.
― tylerw, Tuesday, 5 April 2011 17:10 (thirteen years ago) link
I knew I shouldn't have turned that tom petty documentary off after watching 11 hours of it
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Tuesday, 5 April 2011 17:11 (thirteen years ago) link
Crosby dissuaded Tom from covering "Triad", noting "I don't need the money, I'm making plenty with this lesbian-sperm gig I got goin"
― in my world of loose geirs (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 5 April 2011 17:12 (thirteen years ago) link
i heard that tom was in joshua tree the same time gram parsons kicked it, too. coincidence?
― tylerw, Tuesday, 5 April 2011 17:14 (thirteen years ago) link
Tom covered "Artificial Energy" once trying to get Roger, but only got Michael.
― dan selzer, Tuesday, 5 April 2011 17:18 (thirteen years ago) link
i like this ... there was a thread that talked about a horror movie with david crosby murdering people. maybe this can be the sequel, like where crosby is hunted by petty.
― tylerw, Tuesday, 5 April 2011 17:31 (thirteen years ago) link
'stop draggin' my corpse around'
― Ward Fowler, Tuesday, 5 April 2011 17:41 (thirteen years ago) link
'Listen To Her Heart, Beating In My Hand'
― Your cousin, Marvin Cobain (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 5 April 2011 18:05 (thirteen years ago) link
everybody's been burned to death
― buzza, Tuesday, 5 April 2011 18:45 (thirteen years ago) link
'You Wreck Me--I Kill You'
― Your cousin, Marvin Cobain (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 6 April 2011 00:04 (thirteen years ago) link
Love this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrI4vSJOuFg
― calstars, Sunday, 22 May 2011 17:03 (thirteen years ago) link
I always thought that Gram Parsons had produced by far the best post-Byrds output, by a fair margin even. Turns out it was this guy all along.
― bloomps! (there it is) (Pillbox), Tuesday, 31 May 2011 08:54 (thirteen years ago) link
Totally.
― dan selzer, Tuesday, 31 May 2011 14:28 (thirteen years ago) link
It was made official awhile back. Gram Parsons v Gene Clark in an Ex-Byrd Roots Rock Smackdown!!!
― kornrulez6969, Tuesday, 31 May 2011 15:48 (thirteen years ago) link
Turns out it was this guy all along.
yes
― metally ill (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 31 May 2011 15:56 (thirteen years ago) link
Bit unfair that we've got GP books, films, box sets up the yin, and only a Teenage Fanclub song for Gene innit?
― henry s, Tuesday, 31 May 2011 16:32 (thirteen years ago) link
Also, Gene Clark died 20 years ago last Tuesday...
― henry s, Tuesday, 31 May 2011 16:34 (thirteen years ago) link
a career spanning gene clark box set would be ace. it doesn't exist does it?
― tylerw, Tuesday, 31 May 2011 16:42 (thirteen years ago) link
i think of it in terms of Nick Drake vs. John Martyn (or even Jeff vs. Tim Buckley), in that the romantic young death and "What If?"ness of it resonates so much more with record buyers than the "put out a slew of great albums before slightly tapering off in quality" and died a bit on. how romantic is Gene's "slow death from alcoholism" vs. Parsons, nevermind that Gene made 4x the great records that he did? that all said, i'd love to hear a Gene boxset, but i'm just glad that ten years ago, all his albums were basically unavailable and at least now they are in print to varying degrees.
― beta blog, Tuesday, 31 May 2011 17:40 (thirteen years ago) link
Some of the later ones aren't.
― dan selzer, Tuesday, 31 May 2011 18:33 (thirteen years ago) link
which one does gene parsons prefer?
― buzza, Tuesday, 31 May 2011 18:37 (thirteen years ago) link
also curious how Michael Clarke feels
― Trip Maker, Tuesday, 31 May 2011 18:46 (thirteen years ago) link
Roadmaster is out of print AFAIK.
Also the version of 'One in a Hundred' on RMaster in the youtube above is far superior to the one on White Light. A little 12-string electric does wonders.
― calstars, Wednesday, 1 June 2011 00:57 (thirteen years ago) link
I've been listening to Roadmaster a bit this week--"She Don't Care About Time" and "Full Circle Song" are just fuckin... i dunno, perfect, i guess.
― one dis leads to another (ian), Wednesday, 1 June 2011 02:04 (thirteen years ago) link
Oh yeah -- had that for years.
Roadmaster is out of print AFAIK. Also the version of 'One in a Hundred' on RMaster in the youtube above is far superior to the one on White Light. A little 12-string electric does wonders. --calstars
Also the version of 'One in a Hundred' on RMaster in the youtube above is far superior to the one on White Light. A little 12-string electric does wonders. --calstars
Well, 12-string and the Byrds singing ensemble vocals...
― Naive Teen Idol, Wednesday, 1 June 2011 02:28 (thirteen years ago) link
there's at least one, pretty good gene clark biog (by john einarson) out there
― Ward Fowler, Wednesday, 1 June 2011 05:25 (thirteen years ago) link
as mentioned on the reissues thread:
http://highmoonrecords.com/n-arthur-lee-love-the-byrds-gene-clark-reissues-label.php
― dan selzer, Thursday, 2 June 2011 04:04 (thirteen years ago) link
From the guy behind Midnight Records.
― dan selzer, Thursday, 2 June 2011 04:06 (thirteen years ago) link
After all these years I'm glad I got to see it come out," said Whittington, who was in contact with Lee up to his death in 2006. "Arthur does some great vocals on that album. I like playing this music so if it happens to (lead to) more gigs, I'd like to have more opportunities to say 'thank you, Arthur.'"
yeesh
― one dis leads to another (ian), Thursday, 2 June 2011 04:14 (thirteen years ago) link
http://clarkophile.blogspot.com/2011/06/interview-with-kai-clark-may-22-2011.html
― dan selzer, Sunday, 5 June 2011 03:41 (thirteen years ago) link
Sundazed to reissue Dillard & Clark debut, White Light, and Roadmaster.
Fidelity aside, I'm actually not super-excited about this. I've got the D & C twofer and A & M UK has had White Light out in a budget edition w/bonus tracks for a few years now. Roadmaster will be a day one purchase though (never owned it).
― Status Update...in my Seether? (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 2 September 2011 17:05 (thirteen years ago) link
oooh! I don't have any of his stuff on vinyl, this is good news.
― I can feel it in my spiritual hat (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 2 September 2011 17:07 (thirteen years ago) link
Everybody said that he was the sweetest, nicest most wonderful person ever, unless he got drunk, which was often, in which case he was the most terrible person ever.
― Lee547 (Lee626), Friday, 2 September 2011 17:17 (thirteen years ago) link
Pretty much describes every alcoholic I've ever been friends with, that should be
― Lee547 (Lee626), Friday, 2 September 2011 17:19 (thirteen years ago) link
I have all 3 on CD and 2 on vinyl and I'm still excited about this. Having Roadmaster and The Fantastic Expedition be readily available is a good thing no matter what. Now whatever happend to that Two Sides to Every Story reissue that was supposedly happening?
― beta blog, Friday, 2 September 2011 18:12 (thirteen years ago) link
^Good Question.I will definitely Roadmaster and the Dillard and Clark.Hey, here I am paying Gene a visit earlier this summerhttps://fbcdn-profile-a.akamaihd.net/hprofile-ak-snc4/203413_663169422_7471081_q.jpg
― Trip Maker, Friday, 2 September 2011 18:40 (thirteen years ago) link
― Trip Maker, Friday, 2 September 2011 18:41 (thirteen years ago) link
http://thumbp9-bf1.thumb.mail.yahoo.com/tn?sid=2325518375&mid=ALLTi2IAATWJTkcrJgv63WHQpi0&midoffset=1_26459&partid=6&f=1612&fid=Inbox&w=361&h=480&httperr=1
― Trip Maker, Friday, 2 September 2011 18:43 (thirteen years ago) link
how did they fit him into that tiny grave
― I can feel it in my spiritual hat (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 2 September 2011 18:49 (thirteen years ago) link
christ ,the 1st dillard/clark album is good. how did i overlook this so long?
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Sunday, 18 September 2011 09:06 (thirteen years ago) link